[cite]Posted By: Floyd Montana[/cite]Sorry
Have I missed a statement that Parky has been sacked?
He hasnt
Until he does get the boot wind your necks in and get over it
Your ill informed wish lists are meaningless.
Its called discussion . Its what this website is all about.
I agree. Whilst our outpourings are all purely hypothetical and Parky will almost certainly stay there is nothing wrong in discussing who possibly could do a job if circumstances change.
[cite]Posted By: Floyd Montana[/cite]OK big boy
Your ill informed fantasy discussion is meaningless.
Is that adding to your version of discussion?
Of course it's meaningless, technically all these discussions are. Discussing whether we should play 4-5-1, whether we play Martin or Waggy or whatever else - none of it actually achieves anything beyond being interesting to Charlton supporters.
At the moment Parky's position seems a little precarious, and a major part of the discussion of whether he should go is looking at whether there is actually anyone to replace him. It's an interesting topic of debate. Forums would be very tedious if a poster popped up in every thread going "you're not Richard Murray/Parky! This discussion means nothing!"
My ideal choice would be either Phil Brown or John still the daggers manager but doubt they would come they know the game well and tbh we need a manager that can kick this team up the a**
Hang on a moment. Why does it have to be a old has been? Huddersfield appointed lee Clark to his first job, bournemouth Eddie Howe, Exeter tisdale, bristol rovers trollope, yeovil skiverton etc etc. We need to think a little outside the box. They have all done decent jobs on budgets, Huddersfield excepted, far below parky's. Maybe powell isn't such a bad shout. We need a manager that we can all get behind and support. I don't personally think power is ready quite yet but there are a lot of senior pros out there with coaching badges who are itching for a chance. We just have to pick the right one. Advertise the job and you might be surprised who will apply. 19k in league one? A lot of people would jump at the chance to manage us believe me.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]Hang on a moment. Why does it have to be a old has been? Huddersfield appointed lee Clark to his first job, bournemouth Eddie Howe, Exeter tisdale, bristol rovers trollope, yeovil skiverton etc etc. We need to think a little outside the box. They have all done decent jobs on budgets, Huddersfield excepted, far below parky's. Maybe powell isn't such a bad shout. We need a manager that we can all get behind and support. I don't personally think power is ready quite yet but there are a lot of senior pros out there with coaching badges who are itching for a chance. We just have to pick the right one. Advertise the job and you might be surprised who will apply. 19k in league one? A lot of people would jump at the chance to manage us believe me.
But as Scoham says, we don't have the luxury of bedding in a young manager because we need results now and promotion now. We're not in the financial position to shrug our shoulders and say 'maybe next season, eh?' if we don't get promotion. We might be prepared to gamble on a first time manager and hope they make an instant impact, but otherwise we can't afford to be 'building' whilst in this division, because every year we're stuck here we'll actually be shedding players.
So we can't have an old has been and we can't appoint a first timer and we can't afford the comp for someone like tisdale. Let's stick with parky then and get relegated, it's the only option by the look of it.
There are some names on that list that haven't managed a club in years, for example Mel Machin, John Hollins and our very own Lennie Lawrence. Are they still expecting managerial roles?
As many have said, a little uninspiring, though Paolo Sousa or Phil Brown would for me be the best on the list.
Although the heart says Chris Powell, I'm not so sure.
And I would guess even a current assistant manager such as Mark Bowen would be out of our reach financially.
All hypothetical of course as we already have a manager for the foreseeable future (probably).
A few years ago, MKD gave Roberto Di Matteo the opportunity to manage a professional football team. He had no experience but it was a gamble that paid off. I now think it's time for us to take a gamble with someone who's been around good manager's for his whole career and has learnt and who's intelligent enough to get us playing neat passing football. That man is Chris Powell.
Alan pardew (with a bit more control from murray on the purse strings)
Iain Dowie would not have got us into this pony position imho
That is how poor phil parkinson has been
To appoint him when we did has proved to be the worst in a line of ridiculously wank decisions made my murray
Parky has dragged us to this low point, not 12 games by Dowie albeit with some silly spending , pardew left us with a big wage bill and a struggling squad , not one manager could have brought us down with such a pathetic whimper as parky did
I genuinely believe that as we stand right now unless things improve in the next 6 games parky has to go because no one will do as bad a job as he currently is doing
the problem we would av if parky gets the boot is whoever would take over would inherit the shite team he has put together , if someone new comes in i think he seriously might have to rely on youth because the current crop of 1st team players are awful,someone mentioned Glenn Hoddle not a bad shout he certainly likes to play the game the right way .
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]Hang on a moment. Why does it have to be a old has been? Huddersfield appointed lee Clark to his first job, bournemouth Eddie Howe, Exeter tisdale, bristol rovers trollope, yeovil skiverton etc etc. We need to think a little outside the box. They have all done decent jobs on budgets, Huddersfield excepted, far below parky's. Maybe powell isn't such a bad shout. We need a manager that we can all get behind and support. I don't personally think power is ready quite yet but there are a lot of senior pros out there with coaching badges who are itching for a chance. We just have to pick the right one. Advertise the job and you might be surprised who will apply. 19k in league one? A lot of people would jump at the chance to manage us believe me.
It doesn't Large I'm just highlighting the dearth of available managers that would be better than Parky.
OK all manaagers are available to a certain extent but we can ill afford paying compo to parky and a new managers old club.
Well, I think Dowie would be better than thoughs who have been suggested so far and I aint praising him.
I really cannot see anyone do any better than Parky with the players we've got. If parky went now we would still have the same players. A back 4 that finds it difficult to defend, a midfield that cant pass and an attack that doesn't take the limited chances it gets.
One thing getting a new manager its another moving players on, which is something the next manager would have to try and do.
How about we tempt someone away from an existing club? Paul Tisdale or Gus Poyet? I cant see either of them really being tempted, probably least of all Gus....he has a good side and the job is unfinished what with them about to get their own ground once again at which point there crowds will surge.....but if you dont ask, you dont get...
[cite]Posted By: Telnotinoz[/cite]How about we tempt someone away from an existing club? Paul Tisdale or Gus Poyet? I cant see either of them really being tempted, probably least of all Gus....he has a good side and the job is unfinished what with them about to get their own ground once again at which point there crowds will surge.....but if you dont ask, you dont get...
After Saturday, I think the last club Gus will be leaving Brighton for is Charlton.
quote: After Saturday, I think the last club Gus will be leaving Brighton for is Charlton.
Why? Because we were that bad? His son does play in our youth team. However, why would he leave Brighton for us?
I'd love to have a manager like Poyet, getting players to play good passing football. Not going to happen though. Nor is Curbs coming back, unfortunately. He would be first choice.
John Still - good shout Ince - no Allen - no Powell - as coach, yes Di Canio - no fascists thanks, especially ones with no managerial experience Sousa - yes please Jorge Costa - yes please
Having said that calls for Damian Matthews have some merit from what people say about the youth team and they way they play.
I said on the previuos page 'so we can't have an old has been and we can't appoint a first timer and we can't afford the comp for someone like tisdale' so I give you - Dean Holdsworth.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]I said on the previuos page'so we can't have an old has been and we can't appoint a first timer and we can't afford the comp for someone like tisdale'so I give you - Dean Holdsworth.
Good shout, he might even bring Lindsey Dawn McKenzie along for a bit of soft-porn action, if that doesn't get our lot going then nothing will!!!
The only coaching that I have ever seen Holdsworth involved in was when he was on TV coaching Rod Stewart on the randy old bugger's private pitch, although I think he has been doing non-League stuff, hasn't he?
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I agree. Whilst our outpourings are all purely hypothetical and Parky will almost certainly stay there is nothing wrong in discussing who possibly could do a job if circumstances change.
Of course it's meaningless, technically all these discussions are. Discussing whether we should play 4-5-1, whether we play Martin or Waggy or whatever else - none of it actually achieves anything beyond being interesting to Charlton supporters.
At the moment Parky's position seems a little precarious, and a major part of the discussion of whether he should go is looking at whether there is actually anyone to replace him. It's an interesting topic of debate. Forums would be very tedious if a poster popped up in every thread going "you're not Richard Murray/Parky! This discussion means nothing!"
Scoham it wasn't aimed solely at you but at everyone who has a reason for rubbishing a named replacement.
I want everyone to remember that Parkinson has done nothing good in football terms for cafc
And that to do nothing would be the biggest mistake of all
But as Scoham says, we don't have the luxury of bedding in a young manager because we need results now and promotion now. We're not in the financial position to shrug our shoulders and say 'maybe next season, eh?' if we don't get promotion. We might be prepared to gamble on a first time manager and hope they make an instant impact, but otherwise we can't afford to be 'building' whilst in this division, because every year we're stuck here we'll actually be shedding players.
As many have said, a little uninspiring, though Paolo Sousa or Phil Brown would for me be the best on the list.
Although the heart says Chris Powell, I'm not so sure.
And I would guess even a current assistant manager such as Mark Bowen would be out of our reach financially.
All hypothetical of course as we already have a manager for the foreseeable future (probably).
Iain Dowie would not have got us into this pony position imho
That is how poor phil parkinson has been
To appoint him when we did has proved to be the worst in a line of ridiculously wank decisions made my murray
Parky has dragged us to this low point, not 12 games by Dowie albeit with some silly spending , pardew left us with a big wage bill and a struggling squad , not one manager could have brought us down with such a pathetic whimper as parky did
I genuinely believe that as we stand right now unless things improve in the next 6 games parky has to go because no one will do as bad a job as he currently is doing
It doesn't Large I'm just highlighting the dearth of available managers that would be better than Parky.
OK all manaagers are available to a certain extent but we can ill afford paying compo to parky and a new managers old club.
So yeah ok a new boy.
Chris powell
paolo di canio
2 names spring to mind -
I really cannot see anyone do any better than Parky with the players we've got. If parky went now we would still have the same players. A back 4 that finds it difficult to defend, a midfield that cant pass and an attack that doesn't take the limited chances it gets.
One thing getting a new manager its another moving players on, which is something the next manager would have to try and do.
sorry for shouting but all we have is the youth to tap into because we have no cash and who knows them best??
Who plays stylish free passing football
He has had nowt to do with the 1st team so wouldnt be tarnished and he would cost fudge all
could give him till the end of the season to see what he can do then if we are well and truely fudged we can all blame parky
Steve Tilson
Jorge Costa
Mervyn Day
Steve Brown
Id take Sousa as manager, powell as assistant.
After Saturday, I think the last club Gus will be leaving Brighton for is Charlton.
Why? Because we were that bad? His son does play in our youth team. However, why would he leave Brighton for us?
I'd love to have a manager like Poyet, getting players to play good passing football. Not going to happen though. Nor is Curbs coming back, unfortunately. He would be first choice.
John Still - good shout
Ince - no
Allen - no
Powell - as coach, yes
Di Canio - no fascists thanks, especially ones with no managerial experience
Sousa - yes please
Jorge Costa - yes please
Having said that calls for Damian Matthews have some merit from what people say about the youth team and they way they play.
After that, John Still, Coppel or Sousa would be good IMO.
Good shout, he might even bring Lindsey Dawn McKenzie along for a bit of soft-porn action, if that doesn't get our lot going then nothing will!!!
The only coaching that I have ever seen Holdsworth involved in was when he was on TV coaching Rod Stewart on the randy old bugger's private pitch, although I think he has been doing non-League stuff, hasn't he?
Mowbrey
Lennie
Megson
From my heart - DiCanio or my Mum