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No offers for Bailey..however an interesting thread follows discussing his merits / weaknesses :-)

edited June 2010 in General Charlton
From the SLP

The Addicks skipper is likely to leave the club this summer to help balance the books, after their failure to win promotion back to the Championship.

Being in League One for another season is likely to hit the South Londoners hard, and chairman Richard Murray has admitted that players will have to be sold to make the figures add up.

Bailey, who scored 13 goals last season, is the club’s most valuable playing asset, but no one has made a bid yet.

“We haven’t had any direct contact from anyone about Nicky,” manager Phil Parkinson told the South London Press.

“The reality is that one or two might have to go. I’ve always said I want to keep my best players and I’ll continue to fight hard to do that.”


http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/tn/Sport.cfm?id=19659&headline=Charlton
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  • Warnock style plea


    Nicky is available come and get him
  • NLA think you could be right

    Shame if he does go
  • Its all early days, most of the players and agents shoot off on holiday as soon as the last ball is kicked, things will liven up both outgoing and incoming in a couple of weeks before pre season training starts.
  • notice he says 'we havn't had any direct contact'. So that could mean they have had contact with agents or representatives of Clubs but not any contact from a Club themselves as yet. Or it could mean there has been contact with Nicky from an agent, representative or Club although of course that is strictly not allowed.

    Seems like a story preparing us for his sale. Gone before the weekend then.
  • [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]notice he says 'we havn't had any direct contact'. So that could mean they have had contact with agents or representatives of Clubs but not any contact from a Club themselves as yet. Or it could mean there has been contact with Nicky from an agent, representative or Club although of course that is strictly not allowed.

    Seems like a story preparing us for his sale. Gone before the weekend then.

    Spot on but i reckon next weekend not this
  • Bye Nicky. Just don't go to Millwall please.
  • edited June 2010
    [cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]
    Seems like a story preparing us for his sale.

    What realistically should we expect ?

    Serious question.

    We are £30m+ in debt, and will post another £6-8m loss for the last year. Our forecasted revenues for next season will be lower than what it was this season.

    We HAVE TO bring some money in, and Bailey is the only real saleable asset that is likely to attract a relatively decent (£400k+) fee.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]

    What realistically do you expect ?

    to be allowed to be surprised and outraged by the sale when it inevitably comes, complain that price is too low, slag off the player as a totally useless diver and suggest that he missed that penalty on purpose because he knew he was going.
  • What do you expect? Everyone to be happy he's gone?
  • AFKA, I meant a story preparing us for his imminent sale. Of course he needs to be sold and I realise that. Don't think that story would have been run if he wasn't leaving until mid-August for example so run now to prepare fans so that when he goes next week it isn't unexpected. Believe it or not there are some fans out there who are not as aware of the financial situation at the Club as most on here are and will be dismayed to see Bailey sold. Even some on here make comments such as 'we can get him for 100k' thinking we will be buying some players with fees involved. As we know they are seriously deluded if they think that. Equally, therefore, there are some who will be outraged if we sell our best players. Best to let them down gently.
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  • It reads to me like we can't afford to keep him. Smacks of desperation, which is not the way to get a good fee for a player. Mind you, our debts are common knowledge so we're not going to get good money for any player we sell.
  • Fair enough Large, agree with that.


    It could of course just been the journalist asking 'have you had any offers for Bailey' !!

    Personally, if he is going to be sold then the quicker the better for me. We need to get this, and any other potential bad news stories out the way now, not two weeks before the season starts.
  • edited June 2010
    surely our losses will be lower this year after so many coming off the books? not forgetting shelvey sale
  • [cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite]It reads to me like we can't afford to keep him. Smacks of desperation, which is not the way to get a good fee for a player. Mind you, our debts are common knowledge so we're not going to get good money for any player we sell.

    We can't afford to keep him.

    No sure how it smacks of desperation


    As AFKA said the journo asks

    "have you had any offers for Bailey?"

    Parky replies

    "“We haven’t had any direct contact from anyone about Nicky"

    “The reality is that one or two might have to go. I’ve always said I want to keep my best players and I’ll continue to fight hard to do that.”
  • edited June 2010
    i'll be renaming my dog "randy" if he goes
  • [cite]Posted By: Choice[/cite]i'll be renaming my dog "randy" if he goes

    Perhaps you'll need to have his plums removed first?

    ;o)
  • [cite]Posted By: Choice[/cite]i'll be renaming my dog "randy" if he goes


    shouldnt this be in the takeover thread


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  • In all honesty I think we were trying to off load him last summer. Personally I don't think anyone will cone in for him and offer anywhere near what we, and more importantly he, wants.

    Let's remember that if he leaves next summer he gets a free transfer. For free transfer read big increase in wages. When he signed for us we were pretending to be challenging to promotion to the Premier League, so I doubt he is on anything less than good Championship wages now.

    Fast forward two years and while the economy, and football finances in general, have gone down the toilet he has been in an uninspiring Charlton side and has had his fair share of critics. What are the chances of a club paying a decent (or any) fee for him them offing him more than a) he's on now and b) he'll be offered next summer when he gets a free transfer.

    Thus I suspect he will be with us next season, but more worryingly his presence will prevent us from making any new signings and/or reduce those we can attract of free transfers.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Being in League One for another season is likely to hit the South Londoners hard, and chairman Richard Murray has admitted that players will have to be sold to make the figures add up.

    Bailey, who scored 13 goals last season, is the club’s most valuable playing asset, but no one has made a bid yet.
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite]It reads to me like we can't afford to keep him. Smacks of desperation, which is not the way to get a good fee for a player. Mind you, our debts are common knowledge so we're not going to get good money for any player we sell.

    We can't afford to keep him.

    No sure how it smacks of desperation

    It's just my reading of this SLP article. Richard Murray making it clear that he's open to offers on anyone, but the following sentence (ok, not attributed to RM) makes it clear that top of the list is Bailey, our most valuable player.
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Fair enough Large, agree with that.


    It could of course just been the journalist asking 'have you had any offers for Bailey' !!

    Personally, if he is going to be sold then the quicker the better for me. We need to get this, and any other potential bad news stories out the way now, not two weeks before the season starts.

    This is absolutely key to me. People are awaiting the bad news of players going and this has to be done asap, as if we drag it out it will hinder the atmosphere on and off the pitch. Get the painful decisions out of the way and then the push towards going up can start again.
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  • [cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Fair enough Large, agree with that.


    It could of course just been the journalist asking 'have you had any offers for Bailey' !!

    Personally, if he is going to be sold then the quicker the better for me. We need to get this, and any other potential bad news stories out the way now, not two weeks before the season starts.

    This is absolutely key to me. People are awaiting the bad news of players going and this has to be done asap, as if we drag it out it will hinder the atmosphere on and off the pitch. Get the painful decisions out of the way and then the push towards going up can start again.

    Agree but that scenario may be out of our hands...particularly if there's a bidding war going on which may stretch things out a bit.
    Anyway...it's not certain he's going, I'd say it's 50/50.
  • [cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Fair enough Large, agree with that.


    It could of course just been the journalist asking 'have you had any offers for Bailey' !!

    Personally, if he is going to be sold then the quicker the better for me. We need to get this, and any other potential bad news stories out the way now, not two weeks before the season starts.

    This is absolutely key to me. People are awaiting the bad news of players going and this has to be done asap, as if we drag it out it will hinder the atmosphere on and off the pitch. Get the painful decisions out of the way and then the push towards going up can start again.


    If Parky is correct and no firm offers have come in then how can we sell him quickly? Only by touting him about at a reduced price.

    On the other hand doing a deal now would be better as you say as we'd know the fee and could start to work to replace him.

    So how long do we hold out for a good price? Days/weeks/months?
  • I realise the Club is in a tough spot. My worry is that we are going to carry the end of season woes into next season and that could be disastrous. I want to get the best possible price for Bailey but think if we wait till Aug 31st this may be counter productive as we have seen in the past. It's a real shit situation and I can't help but feel it's a lose/lose scenario that is ahead of us. I'm just praying that come pre-season we have a hungry squad keen to show how much they want to play for the club and that some good vibes can start flowing again.

    (Bit down today as met a gloating Milwall fan I know)
  • Be sorry to see him go (sure he will) but we are football fans and as soon as we sign a few players we will all get exited as per usual. If PP does it right I rekon there will be some real bargains out there. I am looking forward to next season already.
  • i have it via a good contact nicky will be off to boro after the clubs have agreed a fee nicky is being sold by the board and not parky the offer is to good to turn down
  • Any club that's interested in Bailey would have scouted him already, and be well aware of strengths and flaws in his game.

    They'll know that his 1st touch can sometimes let him down, positionally he can go AWOL - but competitive, strong on the ball and in the air, ghosts late into the box and scores plenty of goals for a midfielder. They'll find that very appealing, no doubt.


    On top of that, he's played twice against most of the Championship and League One team's during the past 2 seasons, so again most of them will have a fair idea what he can do.

    Danny Wilson at Swindon is already on record as having said Bailey is among the very best midfielders in the division.
    And I'm sure other managers will be thinking along the same lines.
  • [cite]Posted By: Lee Heywood[/cite]i have it via a good contact nicky will be off to boro after the clubs have agreed a fee nicky is being sold by the board and not parky the offer is to good to turn down

    Is that so?
  • [cite]Posted By: Lee Heywood[/cite]i have it via a good contact nicky will be off to boro after the clubs have agreed a fee nicky is being sold by the board and not parky the offer is to good to turn down

    yep my source said that too
  • Danny Wilson is probably right he probably is one of the best midfielders in the third division, problem is that he is probably earning as much as the best midfielders in the Championship.
  • I think Bailey would do well at Boro but I guess we'll wait and see. Let's hope its a good deal for the club and not just Nicky.
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