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who is to blame

For tonights debarcle there is only 1 person in my mind and that is Phil Parkinson


Clueless was the word i heard used all the way up Floyd Road

On a pitch so sodden right through the middle he fails to tell his wingers to stay wide, and stretch the play anyone on here who says Sam played well tonight constantly coming insideand being so predictable that it is unreal, the fact he is a coward and plays so close to Richardson meaning that several if not more passes out to the wing ended up bouncing in play and going out for a throw with him being 5 yds away from where he should have bneen.

Yet we kept him on

Kyle Reid had a stinbker but he kept looking for the ball he never hid,

Akpo Sodje hardly a threat and one who should not have returned from Sheff Wed

Parkies Subs were very strange indeed tonight and 45 mins to late, why did he put 3 up front then take off Richardson and replace him with Sodje number 2


i have had it now truely had it with this club


i have several tickets left that are freebies that i will take but i assure you and i am sorry to say that is it for me i have had enough i will not buy another ticket to watch us home or away untiul that bufoon is gone i have said from the start he is not the right man for this club

i wont even buy a ticket for the playoffs if i get them through coca cola then i will go but if i cant i wont even go to that


A fuking disgrace throughout hang your head parky
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  • Although I agree with parts, we can't think that all of our players out there are some kind of machines that Parky works on and is solely responsible for for the 90 minutes.

    Certain players need to take some responsibility as well.

    I don't think Parky is a great manager, not by a long shot but we have him until May at least so let's deal with it then in my opinion.
  • agreed,those players need a kick up the aris.
  • The blame also lies with the training and coaching of the players. Charlton's shooting is dreadful. The opposition score crisp shots from distance against us on a regular basis, but we don't look like we practice shooting at all. The debacle before Brighton's first goal would be better suited to a freak show or circus.

    Also there is a lack of movement when passing. The philosophy is quite simple when you move into space rather than standing still and hoping.

    The wingers don't hug the touchline and look to beat players. Their player Bennett looked like an example of what we should be seeing.

    There are never enough players in the box when we attack as well.
  • For tonight ? Parkinson. For the overall situation, I think we have to look a bit deeper.

    The thing is, we've changed the manager numerous times in our rapid decline. The playing squad has changed numerous times as well. The only constant has been the board.

    If Parky had just come in and done a bad job that would be one thing, but we've suffered through Dowie, Reed, Pardew and now Parkinson in the last 3/4 seasons.
  • [cite]Posted By: Screamer[/cite]The wingers don't hug the touchline and look to beat players. Their player Bennett looked like an example of what we should be seeing.

    There are never enough players in the box when we attack as well.

    the reason we dont flood the box is the wingers come inside and we lose momentum

    and dont say on here that wingers should hug the wing you will be ridiculed and told your wrong when clearly it is you and i who are correct
  • no not oggster he is more constuctive than that
  • Yes it was a mess. A real mess. The pitch conditions were bad and we actually played with more heart than we did in the previous 4 home games but we were simply outplayed.

    The main problem is Parky's shocking loan signings which only weaken our team. He says there are no funds available - well don't make up for it in loan signings, field our existing players, give them some experience and create some long term plans for the club.

    Strike force is disgraceful. Mooney beyond shocking. Weak and unfit for this division. It's like watching one of your mates having a go. Sodje is a slug. And everyone else is approaching 40. We've never had much luck with our strikers but this is taking the piss and Parky is to blame.

    Parky has created this feable team that people aren't afraid of anymore. Anyone can come to the Valley now and have a go...

    Parky out. Get a tough, no nonsense manager who can knock some sense into our team.
  • im blaming Lloyd sam and parky both f---king wankers sam is the new rommedahl in my eyes and believe me i f----ing hated him.
  • both wingers were dreadful second half
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  • Great post Screamer !

    Sam is so frustrating. On his day he can be a world beater (alright, maybe not a world beater, but good enough for the Championship) but 90% of the time he stands still, 5yrs away from Richardson and when he finally gets the ball decides to come inside !! He should be told to run down the wing and our full back pass the ball PAST the defender for Sam to run onto, then get to the byeline and put a low, hard cross over.

    Also, why do our strikers stand still with their backs to goal when the opposition strikers are always running at goal onto a through ball ??

    Coaching...........don't make me laugh !!!!!
  • [cite]Posted By: fantastic11[/cite]Yes it was a mess. A real mess. The pitch conditions were bad and we actually played with more heart than we did in the previous 4 home games but we were simply outplayed.

    The main problem is Parky's shocking loan signings which only weaken our team. He says there are no funds available - well don't make up for it in loan signings, field our existing players, give them some experience and create some long term plans for the club.

    Strike force is disgraceful. Mooney beyond shocking. Weak and unfit for this division. It's like watching one of your mates having a go. Sodje is a slug. And everyone else is approaching 40. We've never had much luck with our strikers but this is taking the piss and Parky is to blame.

    Parky has created this feable team that people aren't afraid of anymore. Anyone can come to the Valley now and have a go...

    Parky out. Get a tough, no nonsense manager who can knock some sense into our team.

    Makes you wonder what they do all week dunnit. Disgrace.
  • [cite]Posted By: golfaddick[/cite]Great post Screamer !

    Sam is so frustrating. On his day he can be a world beater (alright, maybe not a world beater, but good enough for the Championship) but 90% of the time he stands still, 5yrs away from Richardson and when he finally gets the ball decides to come inside !! He should be told to run down the wing and our full back pass the ball PAST the defender for Sam to run onto, then get to the byeline and put a low, hard cross over.

    Also, why do our strikers stand still with their backs to goal when the opposition strikers are always running at goal onto a through ball ??

    Coaching...........don't make me laugh !!!!!


    a real rare lifer moment here


    i agree with everything golfie has said
  • Akpo and Mooney, but especially Akpo was awful tonight.
  • People round us slagging off Burton:
    He goes off, then slagging Mooney.
    Then MacKenzie & (A)Sodje.
    Parky puts his Forwards on,plays a 3-2-3 (& Reid & Sam) an his still His fault ?
    The Players ARE to blame.
  • edited February 2010
    Reminded me of last season, emabrassing! I know Sodje scored but we have no striker who lookes like he can finish and get enough goals to get us up. Mooney works hard and is very good at some aspects but as a striker, never going to score enough imho.

    Lllera is a liability, get turned easily and keeps looking for the long diagonal ball which never works.

    We miss Semedo's caliming influence.

    We panic too much and go long.

    We missed Burton when he went off, Sodje is toilet!

    I blame Parky, a month ago we'd lost two but flattered to deceive on many occassions. Now we have lost 5 and the bad performances are more frequent and bad results are following.

    I do not know what the solution is... maybe time for Shelvey back?
  • The Charlton 'couldn't score in a brothel' attack, is more on and off than a light, one that's not working.

    I blame the players, partly the tactics and the enthusiasm out there, get a team with a gameplan - stick to it.. he's fluffing around with the team too much,strikers don't get confidence if they only get 10 mins on the pitch.
  • edited February 2010
    Lloyd Sam is just not good enough. He NEVER tries to go past his man on the outside, constantly drifts infield and condenses the play. Waggy should be in the team. As I have already said on the post match thread, Waggy scares the full backs. Since xmas 2 opposition players have been sent off for fouling Waggy. They don't even need to tackle Lloyd as they know he will produce nothing. 1st half today he was terrible, 2nd half he might as well have not been on the pitch.

    Llera was the only player who can come away with any credit. His diagonal balls don't always work as Lloyd refuses to stay on the right wing to receive them
  • edited February 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]People round us slagging off Burton:
    He goes off, then slagging Mooney.
    Then MacKenzie & (A)Sodje.
    Parky puts hisForwardson,plays a 3-2-3 (& Reid & Sam) an his stillHisfault ?
    The Players ARE to blame.

    MOG, all of those strikers are PP's signings. 3 are dog shite.
  • I personally blame Gordon Brown
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  • [cite]Posted By: C.Walsh'sLoveChild[/cite]I personally blame Gordon Brown

    & Cameron..........
    [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]People round us slagging off Burton:
    He goes off, then slagging Mooney.
    Then MacKenzie & (A)Sodje.
    Parky puts hisForwardson,plays a 3-2-3 (& Reid & Sam) an his stillHisfault ?
    The Players ARE to blame.

    MOG, three of those strikers are PP's signings. All are dog shite.

    & all 3 cost Nothing. Because we haven't got the money to buy anyone.
    I'd love to sign Rooney..............
  • edited February 2010
    [cite]Posted By: C.Walsh'sLoveChild[/cite]I personally blame Gordon Brown

    Funny you should say that. I was just thinking that it would be comforting to think that all our players will be on the bullying help line in the morning, complaining that they got duffed up by their boss, who was ranting and raving and calling them a bunch of wasters.

    But I suspect that's not Parky's style. More's the pity.

    ps : at last something good to come out of a grim evening: that's the first time I've ever done the quotation thing properly!
  • [cite]Posted By: incorruptible addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: C.Walsh'sLoveChild[/cite]I personally blame Gordon Brown

    Funny you should say that. I was just thinking that it would be comforting to think that all our players will be on the bullying help line in the morning, complaining that they got duffed up by their boss, who was ranting and raving and calling them a bunch of wasters.

    But I suspect that's not Parky's style. More's the pity.

    ;-)
  • I don't know whether it was the fault manager of the individuals but watching a left footed player out on the left flank constantly cut inside (same with Sam on the other side) was baffling why play with two proper wingers to offer width if they are going to come inside so often?

    Pitch was shiiiite but it was the same for the btown bummers and they dealt with it by winning more of the first time balls and looking and maybe anticipating unpredictable bounces for the second balls.

    They played like an away side should, well organised, got men behind the ball, broke up play, took their chances, and kept to a gameplan.

    We again, like at Rovers looked a bit directionless.

    And when Burton went off the ball did not stick up top. A touch of imagination would have helped tonight too.
  • I also blame Gordon Brown for me being on the 22:42 out of London Bridge with 2 million drunk Brighton fans. Scottish ba****d
  • I'm finally blaming Parky even though it pains me to do so 'cause i want him to do well.
    Sure the players have a lot to answer for but the apparent changing of tactics each game even when it doesn't appear warranted is confusing me, and that's down to the manager. But the thought that i can't shake, that means i have to blame Parky is that there are teams with worse individual players than us yet they play to their level and maybe beyond regularly. We are just to hit and miss, and if it wasn't for they'd be far more misses than there has been.

    Sorry Parky!
  • [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git
    [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Miserableold-ish git[/cite]People round us slagging off Burton:
    He goes off, then slagging Mooney.
    Then MacKenzie & (A)Sodje.
    Parky puts hisForwardson,plays a 3-2-3 (& Reid & Sam) an his stillHisfault ?
    The Players ARE to blame.

    MOG, three of those strikers are PP's signings. All are dog shite.

    & all 3 cost Nothing. Because we haven't got the money to buy anyone.
    I'd love to sign Rooney..............

    If the club cant find better players on loan than Sodje and Mooney then there is something seriously wrong. a little harsh on McKenzie but if he is 4th choice behind them then he must be useless.
  • Parky.

    followed by

    Complacent Support.

    That is all.
  • edited February 2010
    No one in the future can moan if we end up with 10k STHolders and 12k crowds. No one can go on about Fair-weather Supporters in the future. No one can ask where have all the glory seekers gone?
    We had them, we kept a few in the first season in The Champ but slowly and surely they've been disappearing. And can you honestly blame them.
    I do not ever describe myself as 100% CAFC till I die etc. I am a football fan before a Charlton fan but have been going on and off for many years and 95 % on for the last 10. I am finding it increasingly hard to motivate myself to going. I missed a couple of games and then went on Saturday, enjoyed it and honestly thought that was the result that would send us on a run.
    I almost skipped down there tonight. Always preferred evening games. Met a couple of mates for a pint or two. It was all set up. That lovely light drizzle creating a misty atmosphere under the lights, the away end full and noisy. Perfect!
    Then we serve up a pile of crap like that - Yet again!
    Don't moan at our attendance in the future, don't moan about how many ST's we sell next season. Don't ask where all the plastics have gone. We had them, lots of them but we drove them away with a continued, consistent catalogue of negative, unentertaining, uninspired and unimaginative crap. And who, honestly, can blame them?
  • edited February 2010
    [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]If the club cant find better players on loan than Sodje and Mooney then there is something seriously wrong. a little harsh on McKenzie but if he is 4th choice behind them then he must be useless.



    McKenzie seems to have become the new Todorov.

    Obviously , wse haven't seen the physio's report on his fitness and ability to last anything close to 90 mins, but you have to suspect it's not great.

    Otherwise, as others have said, why has he not had a start when so many others are misfiring?
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