but i'm starting to have a real uncomfortable issue with 'members' who only seem to have any interest in either starting threads here or contributing to threads on this forum off the back of poor performances.
This isn't just a post-match ranting board when things don't go well, its a 24/7 community, and if some people are only using it purely to vent off after poor performances it creates an overtly negative tone. And some of the posts are plain nasty.
This is in no way detracting from another defeat and another disappointing performance.
I'm just concerned that the agenda of this forum is being set by the 'wrong people'.
Do you feel i am being too defensive, or off target ?
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Especially after the sunday game, had to be at least 20
Overall, they are a reflection of the mood surrounding the club.
Negative always gets a larger play than positive, just like in the news and newspapers, because of the need to vent.
thats the problem with the world I reckon, self perpetuates....
were charlton were second, were rubbish at football..... but at least we dont live in watford.....
and were charlton......
and we will draw against MK Dons...
In truth, there are too many threads about football on here and not enough about music or funny things found on the internet.
There's a lot of derision aimed at the overly negative on here. When it turns out that they're right then people can't weep about the fact that they failed to spot what others saw and accuse them of luxuriating in it. I'd agree that 100 threads of misspelled rants about the same topics are tedious but the fact that we were heading down this road for a long time before the results turned was (generally) ignored. The voices that suggested we needed a contingency plan or a fresh approach were shouted down and that's most probably why they're crowing now. I'd hold a different view had I heard calls for balance, then.
Anything critical gets lumped in with the views of the OTT ranters.
Questions need to be asked at the moment, as complacency on & off the field has arguably got us where we are now.
One of my fears in keeping Parky is precisely the scenario that is playing out now, I think he has done well - better than could have been hoped for back in April - but further poor performances are going to be very, very divisive.
Feck me, we lost tonight in the Johnstones Paint Trophy and people are struggling to keep their blood pressure under control.
The big game is on Saturday, we are still unbeaten at home and SECOND in the league for God's sake.
No doubt just full of people venting without anything constructive to say.
I'm just a half empty person but, in my defence, I make a living out of making predictions and it is difficult for me to bury my head in the sand when I see things that I believe are simply not right. Perhaps I shouldn't have been quite so vehement about Dickson being exiled or Randolph being so harshly treated or Parky and the Club's myopia regarding McLeod's attack but those are my feelings.
The other side of this are those who simply only want to read good news. Supporting Charlton is and never has been about that because we are not a big 4 Club. That is what makes us so different and if you want any evidence of our bond then read the thread asking whether you would ever stop supporting Charlton. I'm sure you would be heartened by most of the responses.
There does seem to be a lot of people coming out of the woodwork with some people spouting some really bizarre stuff though!
That said this is a discussion forum and with as many members as we have it's inevitable there might be some people lacking the necessary grey matter to hold a civil discussion without resorting to swearing or writing rubbish - I guess we have take the rough with smooth!
I am certainly not a glass half empty person. However I strongly believe that prevention is better than cure. Many saw this slump coming, and Parky being a highly paid, highly qualified professional should have seen it as well and addressed the problems whilst the players still had confidence and were getting results. Most fans on here were very forgiving of Parky's performance last season and he received much praise for the way we started the season. I think the fan's have overall been very supportive of Parky given his poor record since taking charge. Much of the flack being aimed at him now is borne out of the frustration that, had he used his noddle, we could have built on the great start and created a big gap just as Leeds have. This season is our best chance of getting out of this division, if we fail to go up this season, I really fear for the future of our club. I really don't see any merit in being positive when there are major issues that need to be addressed. Mr Pardew was the king of positivity, however in the end that positivity was re-defined as being bullshit. I don't want us to go down that route again. Let's tell it as it is.
I just think it reflects the whole mood surrounding recent performances, some people articulate their feelings better than others, some resort to downright abuse.
Then again if we had anything good to talk about im sure most would
spot on.
and some think seriously about censorship.
That said, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what others might term the more regular 'negative' posters on here, because they generally have valid points to make.
If you had your way you would check every post for suitability before allowing it to appear.
Why don't you just back off and let folk post what is obviously very topical and relevant, judging by the amount of posts.
As you have been told before, if you don't like the subject then don't read it!
I can understand the concerns but i don't understand some of the vitriol yes it's crap at the moment but who would you suggest as manager if we were to bin Parkinson?
What do you mean....'watch our promotion chances slip away'...we're STILL second with all to play for.
What you and a few others should really be saying is "We MAY be watching our promotion chances slip away.".....It's way way too early for all this doom and gloom. Yes, some cause for concern....but it's not slit our wrists time FFS!
However. The deluge of drivel on Sunday after the match was ridiculous. Members know that a post match thread will always be made after every game, so why some insist on starting another thread on the same subject that 10 other people have created threads about just screams of stupidity to me.
AFKA. Why not, as well as the match thread, create a sticky that can be used for the current games post mortem and insist that ALL members use this 1 thread to praise/berate as they see fit, while any other thread will be sunk? Just an idea...
Are Glasgow Rangers and Celtic topical and relevant...NO.
Yet Bart let's you post about that load of boring crap regularly.
I'd have banned Rangers/Celtic posts long ago....but for some reason (up until now that is) Bart allows it.....so you can surely see that he is more than tolerant, because I know how much those posts irritate him and indeed the vast majority of us on here.
I agree with you totally, AFKA. Some people ONLY post after we lose or to moan. The traffic is far higher after a defeat than a victory. I give you the now infamous post that after a four nil away WIN was only concerned with a player not waving to fans when subbed off. No mention at all of the performance or score.
By all means lets have the negatives but can we have some light AND shade. Nowhere did AFKA say negative posts weren't allowed yet some of you are reacting as if he had and leaping to the defence of your "right" to post negatively when that was never questioned.
And why when there is a post match comments thread do people feel the need to start dozens of new threads to make essentially the same point? Not only does it make the board difficult to read it means that at the end of the season it will be difficult to compile a review of what people were thinking at the time, not just in retrospect.