[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I cannot be bothered to read all 86 posts on this Thread but the title of the thread seems a fairly simple one. A manager is judged on results, his make him possibly the worst Manager in Charlton's recent History & my entire Charlton watching history. So the answer to the question is No in my opinion.
Oh. Shame you couldn't read the first post. Because you would have understood the question!
[cite]Posted By: BBClaus[/cite]he's a little more qualified than you, i'm assuming large.
Total Number of Relegations from the CCC to League One
Large: Nil
Parky: One
On this basis, I'm not so sure...
and he's won two games at The Valley as a Manager in what, 15 attempts, and I've won once in ermm, 1 attempt. I'd suggest also that against Narwich the opposition were worse than the one my team faced !!
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I cannot be bothered to read all 86 posts on this Thread but the title of the thread seems a fairly simple one. A manager is judged on results, his make him possibly the worst Manager in Charlton's recent History & my entire Charlton watching history. So the answer to the question is No in my opinion.
Oh. Shame you couldn't read the first post. Because you would have understood the question!
Apologies think you should have put 'Since Norwich' at the end of the title of the thread though :-)
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I cannot be bothered to read all 86 posts on this Thread but the title of the thread seems a fairly simple one. A manager is judged on results, his make him possibly the worst Manager in Charlton's recent History & my entire Charlton watching history. So the answer to the question is No in my opinion.
Oh. Shame you couldn't read the first post. Because you would have understood the question!
Apologies think you should have put 'Since Norwich' at the end of the title of the thread though :-)
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It's like one of those initiative tests, where you have to sit a 100-question, ten-page exam, where between questions 87 and 88 it states "Do not answer any of the questions in this test. Simply write your name at the top of page one, hand in your answer and leave the room". After ten minutes, anyone still writing is deemed to have failed because they didn't read the paper properly before answering.
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I cannot be bothered to read all 86 posts on this Thread but the title of the thread seems a fairly simple one. A manager is judged on results, his make him possibly the worst Manager in Charlton's recent History & my entire Charlton watching history. So the answer to the question is No in my opinion.
Did you even read the main post? he stated since we spanked Norwich?
[cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]But I can also see why having a whole new coaching setting up (so bye-bye Kins as well) could bring a much needed fresh start.
Do you think we would be lucky enough to have a fresh start as good as it was in the old days, when we appointed Iain Dowie? Or Les Reed? Or would it be likely to be more like the more-recent fresh starts we've had under Alan Pardew and Phil Parkinson?
Or, (just for the sake of it) is it worth considering that stability might be better than a clear-out?
When something is broken, you keep trying to fix it until you get it right.
Stability in a failed state only maintains the failure.
In the situation of having Zero money, no clear idea who his bosses are, and still attracting players, I suppose he's done alright. Done better then Mark Wotte did
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]But I can also see why having a whole new coaching setting up (so bye-bye Kins as well) could bring a much needed fresh start.
Do you think we would be lucky enough to have a fresh start as good as it was in the old days, when we appointed Iain Dowie? Or Les Reed? Or would it be likely to be more like the more-recent fresh starts we've had under Alan Pardew and Phil Parkinson?
Or, (just for the sake of it) is it worth considering that stability might be better than a clear-out?
When something is broken, you keep trying to fix it until you get it right.
Stability in a failed state only maintains the failure.
This is the 100th post on the subject of whether Parky's currently doing a good job. The general consensus is that, actually, when all's said and done, he probably is doing a good job.
And, if you can't afford the fix, you carry on as best you can. No?
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]We'll find out against Wycombe I suppose.
In the situation of having Zero money, no clear idea who his bosses are, and still attracting players, I suppose he's done alright. Done better then Mark Wotte did
[cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]But I can also see why having a whole new coaching setting up (so bye-bye Kins as well) could bring a much needed fresh start.
Do you think we would be lucky enough to have a fresh start as good as it was in the old days, when we appointed Iain Dowie? Or Les Reed? Or would it be likely to be more like the more-recent fresh starts we've had under Alan Pardew and Phil Parkinson?
Or, (just for the sake of it) is it worth considering that stability might be better than a clear-out?
When something is broken, you keep trying to fix it until you get it right.
Stability in a failed state only maintains the failure.
This is the 100th post on the subject of whether Parky's currently doing a good job. The general consensus is that, actually, when all's said and done, he probably[i aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]is[/i]doing a good job.
And, if you can't afford the fix, you carry on as best you can. No?
The general consensus is that no one knows if he has done a good job job since Norwich ... and that he didn't do anything previously in his current role that gives us confidence that he is up to the job!
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I cannot be bothered to read all 86 posts on this Thread but the title of the thread seems a fairly simple one. A manager is judged on results, his make him possibly the worst Manager in Charlton's recent History & my entire Charlton watching history. So the answer to the question is No in my opinion.
Did you even read the main post? he stated since we spanked Norwich?
You clearly have not read the previous two posts I had with Chizz !
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]But I can also see why having a whole new coaching setting up (so bye-bye Kins as well) could bring a much needed fresh start.
Do you think we would be lucky enough to have a fresh start as good as it was in the old days, when we appointed Iain Dowie? Or Les Reed? Or would it be likely to be more like the more-recent fresh starts we've had under Alan Pardew and Phil Parkinson?
Or, (just for the sake of it) is it worth considering that stability might be better than a clear-out?
When something is broken, you keep trying to fix it until you get it right.
Stability in a failed state only maintains the failure.
This is the 100th post on the subject of whether Parky's currently doing a good job. The general consensus is that, actually, when all's said and done, he probablyisdoing a good job.
And, if you can't afford the fix, you carry on as best you can. No?
The general consensus is that no one knows if he has done a good job job since Norwich ... and that he didn't do anything previously in his current role that gives us confidence that he is up to the job!
I'll leave others to go back and count the yesses, nos and maybes on this thread. My point is that if we're not certain he's doing a bad job and if we can't find, afford or attract a replacement, then ditching him now and going into the next few weeks managerless would not be a great fix.
[cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]you mean no league 1 team could do with a manager who has gotten a team promoted to the Championship before?
**cough colchester Cough**
You can cough Colchester all you want. But Hull and Charlton have choked and gagged under his management.
But that was the level above and he was not ready for players of that calibre but if he'd stayed with Colchester I believe they would have stayed up.
All the evidence since he left Colchester is stacked against your belief.
Since they didn't get rid of Parky after his caretaker period or after leading the club during its worst spell in club history based on "results," I can see why they are holding on to him now. He is nothing if not the good soldier, and he will continue on until the takeover happens. Then he can get his buyout for sticking around and the new owner can try their hands at the roulette wheel of finding a manager that can take the club forward again.
But if the buyout doesn't happen, with no investment and Parky still at the helm, we may end up even worse than last season.
Maybe you are right but there is no way to tell right now i'll give him 5 league games if he's still here to convince me and they all best be wins! ;o)
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]yep, a new Board, a new head broom, a clean sweep and a review of the whole Club, top to bottom. Appears to be what the Saints are doing. Incidentally, two days after being taken over they have announced much reduced season ticket prices, £270 tops, and if you go down today and renew you actually walk away with your season ticket book. How come we always get ours sent out a few days before the start of a season (not a whinge, an observation).
As they have been in administration I doubt they had many people willing to lose their hard earned before they were saved. They probably have 10,000 S/T books piled up in their ticket office. :-)
[quote][cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]An alternative scenario could be that Parkinson offerred to walk at the end of last season, Murray and the Board requested him to stay, to see through the transition to new owners and settle the playing staff while this was completed. Unfortunately this has taken longer than expected and the board have asked him to stay longer than orginally agreed, which he has accepted out of loyalty to the people that gave him a chance to get back into managment.[/quote]
[quote]Large addick is this the same Board that, in the shape of RM, told us he was going to be sacked ??[quote]
Dunno, but its the same RM who has not sacked him .... yet
richard murray has learnt from past mistakes parky has to stay...
murray was foolhardy/stupid/ignorant enough to think that letting curbishley go ONE YEAR(the biggest money earning season for the new tv contracts if we'd stayed up) before his contract finished would be a good idea cos it would affect the players that signed for the club ...... MONUMENTAL F**K UP
but this time, keeping the wonderful parky on for the last year of his contract is ok cos whatever happens we're gonna be a piss poor club anyway.....
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oh, let's not go there
and he's won two games at The Valley as a Manager in what, 15 attempts, and I've won once in ermm, 1 attempt. I'd suggest also that against Narwich the opposition were worse than the one my team faced !!
Apologies think you should have put 'Since Norwich' at the end of the title of the thread though :-)
It's like one of those initiative tests, where you have to sit a 100-question, ten-page exam, where between questions 87 and 88 it states "Do not answer any of the questions in this test. Simply write your name at the top of page one, hand in your answer and leave the room". After ten minutes, anyone still writing is deemed to have failed because they didn't read the paper properly before answering.
Did you even read the main post? he stated since we spanked Norwich?
When something is broken, you keep trying to fix it until you get it right.
Stability in a failed state only maintains the failure.
In the situation of having Zero money, no clear idea who his bosses are, and still attracting players, I suppose he's done alright. Done better then Mark Wotte did
And, if you can't afford the fix, you carry on as best you can. No?
The general consensus is that no one knows if he has done a good job job since Norwich ... and that he didn't do anything previously in his current role that gives us confidence that he is up to the job!
But that was the level above and he was not ready for players of that calibre but if he'd stayed with Colchester I believe they would have stayed up.
You clearly have not read the previous two posts I had with Chizz !
I apologise!
(*) assumes a zero budget.
All the evidence since he left Colchester is stacked against your belief.
Since they didn't get rid of Parky after his caretaker period or after leading the club during its worst spell in club history based on "results," I can see why they are holding on to him now. He is nothing if not the good soldier, and he will continue on until the takeover happens. Then he can get his buyout for sticking around and the new owner can try their hands at the roulette wheel of finding a manager that can take the club forward again.
But if the buyout doesn't happen, with no investment and Parky still at the helm, we may end up even worse than last season.
As they have been in administration I doubt they had many people willing to lose their hard earned before they were saved. They probably have 10,000 S/T books piled up in their ticket office. :-)
[quote]Large addick is this the same Board that, in the shape of RM, told us he was going to be sacked ??[quote]
Dunno, but its the same RM who has not sacked him .... yet
murray was foolhardy/stupid/ignorant enough to think that letting curbishley go ONE YEAR(the biggest money earning season for the new tv contracts if we'd stayed up) before his contract finished would be a good idea cos it would affect the players that signed for the club ...... MONUMENTAL F**K UP
but this time, keeping the wonderful parky on for the last year of his contract is ok cos whatever happens we're gonna be a piss poor club anyway.....