i think over 10k will be great and fairplay to all those newish fans from curbs glory years who have stuck with us as we have slid down the fooball ladder ....
we've got to get promoted soon b4 we become a small nothing club like millsmall
Still waiting to renew mine (2) depending on some positive stuff coming out of the club and I suspect there are others feeling the same as me. You don't need to tell me that if I were a 'true' Charlton supporter I would renew come what may, please accept the fact that there are others like me waiting on some hint that next season won't be as miserable as the last two.
[cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Still waiting to renew mine (2) depending on some positive stuff coming out of the club and I suspect there are others feeling the same as me. You don't need to tell me that if I were a 'true' Charlton supporter I would renew come what may, please accept the fact that there are others like me waiting on some hint that next season won't be as miserable as the last two.
I don't think anyone can blame you or others for taking that stance. Especially when money is tight at the moment.
I definitely think a takeover/some positive news/new manager will add about 2k to the season ticket number.
[cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Still waiting to renew mine (2) depending on some positive stuff coming out of the club and I suspect there are others feeling the same as me. You don't need to tell me that if I were a 'true' Charlton supporter I would renew come what may, please accept the fact that there are others like me waiting on some hint that next season won't be as miserable as the last two.
You pay your money, you take your pick.....totally up to you if you renew or not, but I suspect youre fishing for a reaction....will this suffice?
[quote][cite]Posted By: TelinOz[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Still waiting to renew mine (2) depending on some positive stuff coming out of the club and I suspect there are others feeling the same as me. You don't need to tell me that if I were a 'true' Charlton supporter I would renew come what may, please accept the fact that there are others like me waiting on some hint that next season won't be as miserable as the last two.[/quote]
You pay your money, you take your pick.....totally up to you if you renew or not, but I suspect youre fishing for a reaction....will this suffice?[/quote]
You're wrong, I was reinforcing the position that there are others like me who might renew if something happens, you know, adding to the speculation and all that....sheesh....
[cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Still waiting to renew mine (2) depending on some positive stuff coming out of the club and I suspect there are others feeling the same as me. You don't need to tell me that if I were a 'true' Charlton supporter I would renew come what may, please accept the fact that there are others like me waiting on some hint that next season won't be as miserable as the last two.
Seth, have you not thought that those potentially bidding for the club may be waiting to see the level of season ticket sales. Your "wait to see" tactic may actually be delivering the wrong message and damaging the very chances you/we want.
The new CEO at Norwich City attrbuted a big part of his reason for taking on the job as the level of support, measured by the season ticket sales (18,000 plus).
Frankly, whilst I share the anger of the clubs fall; your approach, in my view, is about "cutting off your nose to spite your face". If I were a serious investor in this club, I would look at the fan base and the potential for development. Low advanced ticket sales would be a worry. It would be one more issue that may affect my investment decision and the level of working capital v development capital that I may need to employ.
If I had a maximum amount to invest and I could only count on 8,000 ST holders, the amount of my investment left to spend on rebuilding the team would be considerably less than if the ST numbers were say double that.
So come on, you know you are going to renew, get off the fence and just do it. It could be the most important decision for the clubs future you could make.
Persuasive true, but i feel hamstrung here. Part of me doesn't want to signal I am a supporting tart, ready to roll over and take whatever the club throws at me (yet god knows I've done it all my life so far), and part of me want's to hold back to signal my positive reaction to some positive news. You're maybe right in saying that if we get season tickets it may motivate investors to get out their wallets too, but the recent experience following Charlton has put me so much through the wringer, I don't want to be taken for a mug again, as I feel I have been in the last couple of seasons certainly. For me it isn't posturing this time, hoping to get loved up and persuaded, it's about not wanting to be made to feel miserable on a weekly basis by something you love that is crumbling before your eyes.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I'd think that without a "wow" factor it will creep along with a late rush come kick off so maybe between 9 and 10k of direct paid for.
With 1500-ish "others" I think the like for like will top 11k.
Back to the Norwich question, all joking aside you need to understand that the local press carry pages of coverage all the time. Norfolk is totally Norwich centered and thus the club draws from the whole county. They have been good at marketing the club locally with shops at the Ground (which is situated on the ring road) and in the shopping mall.
This year they offered some well thought out deals on STs, one of which was a partial refund if they were relegated. They are currently trying to persuade fans out of claiming it.
I think its perhaps unfair to compare us with them. My point was the one about the more who renew their season tickets the better the signal to a would be investor.
[cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
[cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
[cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
[cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
How close is Staines to Hayes by the way ?
I've never driven between them!! :-)
They are both in Middlesex...I think. So I'd imagine they are not too far apart IMHO.
[cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
How close is Staines to Hayes by the way?
I've never driven between them!! :-)
They are both in Middlesex...I think. So I'd imagine they are not too far apart IMHO.
You a big fan of M25 satellite towns!?
I would go as far as to say they are twinned (identically). Staines aka Hayes aka Irving. Anyway I'll leave you to it now as I'm off :-)
[cite]Posted By: Covered End[/cite]I would go as far as to say they are twinned (identically). Staines aka Hayes aka Irving. Anyway I'll leave you to it now as I'm off :-)
Good night CE - nice chatting with you even if I have a strange feeling I'm not entirely sure what we were chatting about!
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I didn't resist to show that I care.......
we've got to get promoted soon b4 we become a small nothing club like millsmall
Will no doubt ease down now over the summer, but would be great if we can get it over the 10k mark
I'd think that without a "wow" factor it will creep along with a late rush come kick off so maybe between 9 and 10k of direct paid for.
With 1500-ish "others" I think the like for like will top 11k.
With a "wow" factor then closer to 12K
Much, much better than Id expected.
If the TO ever happens then maybe 12k
I don't think anyone can blame you or others for taking that stance. Especially when money is tight at the moment.
I definitely think a takeover/some positive news/new manager will add about 2k to the season ticket number.
You pay your money, you take your pick.....totally up to you if you renew or not, but I suspect youre fishing for a reaction....will this suffice?
You pay your money, you take your pick.....totally up to you if you renew or not, but I suspect youre fishing for a reaction....will this suffice?[/quote]
You're wrong, I was reinforcing the position that there are others like me who might renew if something happens, you know, adding to the speculation and all that....sheesh....
Seth, have you not thought that those potentially bidding for the club may be waiting to see the level of season ticket sales. Your "wait to see" tactic may actually be delivering the wrong message and damaging the very chances you/we want.
The new CEO at Norwich City attrbuted a big part of his reason for taking on the job as the level of support, measured by the season ticket sales (18,000 plus).
Frankly, whilst I share the anger of the clubs fall; your approach, in my view, is about "cutting off your nose to spite your face". If I were a serious investor in this club, I would look at the fan base and the potential for development. Low advanced ticket sales would be a worry. It would be one more issue that may affect my investment decision and the level of working capital v development capital that I may need to employ.
If I had a maximum amount to invest and I could only count on 8,000 ST holders, the amount of my investment left to spend on rebuilding the team would be considerably less than if the ST numbers were say double that.
So come on, you know you are going to renew, get off the fence and just do it. It could be the most important decision for the clubs future you could make.
I know three who renewed today because they thought Monday was the swap day and did not want to lose their seats,
we get 8+ ?
There's f all else to do in Narrrrich!
Apparently "Sheep Worrying" is a regular saturday night pastime
Can't argue with any of this. Spot on IMHO.
Sorry mate but I'm not in Staines!!
:-)
This year they offered some well thought out deals on STs, one of which was a partial refund if they were relegated. They are currently trying to persuade fans out of claiming it.
I think its perhaps unfair to compare us with them. My point was the one about the more who renew their season tickets the better the signal to a would be investor.
I think you'll find Ben Staines is Henry Irving. If not he's his twin brother who speaks exactly the same IMHO :-)
I'm afraid I'm very much my own person?! Not related or connected to any other poster on here - at least as far as I am aware!!
I hope the comparison is a favourable one Covered End?! From my irregular lurking days, Henry Irving seemed to be one of the most regular and prolific visitors/posters to this site and he usually talks a lot of sense IMHO.
definately our Henry in disguise !!
How close is Staines to Hayes by the way ?
I've never driven between them!! :-)
They are both in Middlesex...I think. So I'd imagine they are not too far apart IMHO.
You a big fan of M25 satellite towns!?
I would go as far as to say they are twinned (identically). Staines aka Hayes aka Irving. Anyway I'll leave you to it now as I'm off :-)
Good night CE - nice chatting with you even if I have a strange feeling I'm not entirely sure what we were chatting about!