I would seriously doubt that the current board would not want new investors to come in. The wrong ones, no but the right ones definitely. A consortium with PV to the fore would on the face of it fit the "right" criteria. I hope it's true as well.
[cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]Every time i check this board, I keep hoping to find this thread has become a sticky at the top...with the question marks replaced by exclamation marks.
If it is true then we saw with Zebeel how much trouble was caused by going public. Even the Zebeel people said they couldn't believe how much attention it got. It was said to have unsettled the players and it certainly unsettled a lot of fans.
For those reasons and because leaks or announcements wouldn't be likely to speed the deal along but might, just might, hinder it no news is good news IMHO.
[cite]Posted By: valleyman[/cite]not convinced the players were unsettled, think they were just no good!
Yeah, I'm slightly cynical about how unsettling it was or at least how unsettling it should have been but hard to know how it was presented to them and whether it was all or just some of them.
Certainly doesn't excuse the poor performances before it was announced and after it was finished.
Disagree about "no good". I think there are some good players in there but ones who have woefully underperformed.
New owners (ie Zabeel) should have served to motivate the players, however blaming them is a bit convenient, our form before the prospective takeover was hardly world class. In any case as a PLC the Board had a legal duty to make it known that an offer was coming in and that Zabeel wanted to see the books etc so had to make an annoucement.
Totally agree with that, Henry. The fact that it's now several days and there has been no denial from any quarter is definitely encouraging. Something is going on. How big or small and how far advanced or whether it's still at first base, we don't know. But something is in the offing.
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]it's getting like Zabeel all over again.
[cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]''no news is good news IMHO.''
Totally agree with that, Henry. The fact that it's now several days and there has been no denial from any quarter is definitely encouraging. Something is going on. How big or small and how far advanced or whether it's still at first base, we don't know. But something is in the offing.
Agree with no news is good news but could be that nothing is in the offing
Not WORRYING about it, but HOPING for the first good thing that's happened to Charlton in the last three years.
I've never subscribed either to the karmic fatalism of que sera sera or to the 'it's the hope that kills you' theory. It's the hope that keeps us alive...
[cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite] In any case as a PLC the Board had a legal duty to make it known that an offer was coming in and that Zabeel wanted to see the books etc so had to make an annoucement.
Does that also apply to any other prospective buyer, BFR?
Just a hopefull thought but the programe yesterday said the redundancies were potentil so not definate and of course there were parkys comments last week, let's hope it happens, the jobs are saved and we can maybe keep some of the team from yesterday. Zz shelvey racon and ward
[cite]Posted By: superclive[/cite]Just a hopefull thought but the programe yesterday said the redundancies were potentil so not definate and of course there were parkys comments last week, let's hope it happens, the jobs are saved and we can maybe keep some of the team from yesterday. Zz shelvey racon and ward
The redundancies have to be potential because by law the club has to enter into a 30-day consultation period over proposals to make make more than 20 people redundant. If it simply announced the job losses without this consultation that would be unfair dismissal of all concerned and the club would be forced to pay compensation accordingly. On the other hand, it has to disclose to the government that it is proposing to make more than 20 people redundant and given the level of public interest in the club it is sensible to make that disclosure public.
[cite]Posted By: superclive[/cite]Just a hopefull thought but the programe yesterday said the redundancies were potentil so not definate and of course there were parkys comments last week, let's hope it happens, the jobs are saved and we can maybe keep some of the team from yesterday. Zz shelvey racon and ward
The redundancies have to be potential because by law the club has to enter into a 30-day consultation period over proposals to make make more than 20 people redundant. If it simply announced the job losses without this consultation that would be unfair dismissal of all concerned and the club would be forced to pay compensation accordingly. On the other hand, it has to disclose to the government that it is proposing to make more than 20 people redundant and given the level of public interest in the club it is sensible to make that disclosure public.
The 30 day rule is exactly what I'm on at the moment, my thoughts are with those good people at Charlton and anyone else because is fecking horrible, legally it may be correct, but morally it stinks. I and I'm sure others would rather have been told straight away.
The 30 day rule is an absolute joke - there are some at my work who have this hanging over them at the moment.
I really don't see what good it does anyone - the people who will end up staying or the people who eventually go, they've all been put through the wringer. Madness.
[cite]Posted By: F-Blocker[/cite]I know it's a joke, but it has to be done to be seen to be being fair to everyone.
Fair everyone, who exactly?
as a follow on..............
This was same question I asked the members of HR and Management team by the way, when they said "this way its fair to everyone" their answer its the law! once again proving the laws an ass, and the people who make these sort of decisions are likely to walk away with a couple of hundred grand should they ever be in the same position, therefore being out of work is not an issue.
[cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]In any case as a PLC the Board had a legal duty to make it known that an offer was coming in and that Zabeel wanted to see the books etc so had to make an annoucement.
Does that also apply to any other prospective buyer, BFR?
Yep, legally the board had to make an announcement once an official approach had been made. Similarly if the Varney consortium (if it exists!) makes an official approach then the shareholders have to be informed and the again the board would have to issue a statement saying something like an "approach has been made which may or may not lead to an offer". Until such time there may be unofficial discussions but naturally they won't be made public.
this story has been circulating around addickted for a long time now, and you always get some one saying that your friends mum's nan's cat works for the club and a takeover is close. However a regular poster on addickted reckons ( and i quote) "I was speaking to my uncle a minute ago and he's a good mate of the club doctor (as i've stated before), and the rumours regarding Peter Varney's attempts to lead a consortium to buy the club are 100% true (whether or not there is any success in this attempt we don't know) and if successful his main objective will be to literally crawl on all fours and beg Curbs to come back."
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Know wot u mean, i feel ya pain.
If it is true then we saw with Zebeel how much trouble was caused by going public. Even the Zebeel people said they couldn't believe how much attention it got. It was said to have unsettled the players and it certainly unsettled a lot of fans.
For those reasons and because leaks or announcements wouldn't be likely to speed the deal along but might, just might, hinder it no news is good news IMHO.
Called a Satsuma, small and orange coloured.
Not at all, we KNEW that was true, stuff like this is best ignored till confirmed. You'll end up driving yeself to an early grave otherwise.
Yeah, I'm slightly cynical about how unsettling it was or at least how unsettling it should have been but hard to know how it was presented to them and whether it was all or just some of them.
Certainly doesn't excuse the poor performances before it was announced and after it was finished.
Disagree about "no good". I think there are some good players in there but ones who have woefully underperformed.
Totally agree with that, Henry. The fact that it's now several days and there has been no denial from any quarter is definitely encouraging. Something is going on. How big or small and how far advanced or whether it's still at first base, we don't know. But something is in the offing.
I've never subscribed either to the karmic fatalism of que sera sera or to the 'it's the hope that kills you' theory. It's the hope that keeps us alive...
Does that also apply to any other prospective buyer, BFR?
Exactly ;o)
The redundancies have to be potential because by law the club has to enter into a 30-day consultation period over proposals to make make more than 20 people redundant. If it simply announced the job losses without this consultation that would be unfair dismissal of all concerned and the club would be forced to pay compensation accordingly. On the other hand, it has to disclose to the government that it is proposing to make more than 20 people redundant and given the level of public interest in the club it is sensible to make that disclosure public.
The 30 day rule is exactly what I'm on at the moment, my thoughts are with those good people at Charlton and anyone else because is fecking horrible, legally it may be correct, but morally it stinks. I and I'm sure others would rather have been told straight away.
I really don't see what good it does anyone - the people who will end up staying or the people who eventually go, they've all been put through the wringer. Madness.
Fair everyone, who exactly?
as a follow on..............
This was same question I asked the members of HR and Management team by the way, when they said "this way its fair to everyone" their answer its the law! once again proving the laws an ass, and the people who make these sort of decisions are likely to walk away with a couple of hundred grand should they ever be in the same position, therefore being out of work is not an issue.
Yep, legally the board had to make an announcement once an official approach had been made. Similarly if the Varney consortium (if it exists!) makes an official approach then the shareholders have to be informed and the again the board would have to issue a statement saying something like an "approach has been made which may or may not lead to an offer". Until such time there may be unofficial discussions but naturally they won't be made public.
;-)
Unlikely perhaps but watch this space i guess...