[cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]I think he's got as much chance as anyone of building a team for next season. We're not going to get a proven manager in, we're not going to be able to take a manager from a club like Doncaster.
Once we're relegated mathematically we'll see some good performances, the players will relax, the fans won't be getting so frustrated, a few youngsters will probably come in and liven things up.
He's tried to build a team, but that's very hard to do in the middle of the season. In the summer, everyone will know what league we'll be playing in, what sort of players we need etc.
Fair enough replace him if we can get someone who will definitely be better, but I doubt anyone knows who that would be, and knows they'd love the chance to manage Charlton.
I think we might be surprised by the pedegree of people willing to manage us. His record is an embarrassment and so will the team be under him. If mid table stability is our aim next season then stick with Parkinson. I for one want better.
[cite]Posted By: supaclive[/cite]They can't be any worse !
Your argument is the most bizarre I've ever heard! He's got the worst record EVER as Charlton manager
Yes they can.
Same when people say 'oh just play the youngsters'. I saw some of them in the Brighton game, and others in the Spurs youth cup game, and they would be worse.
If we sack Parkinson, or he resigns, make Kinsella/Di Canio manager, we could get it completely wrong and end up in League Two like Bradford.
He's the worst in our history and we are STILL a big club compared to a lot of Championship sides, so we'll definitely get a better manager in than the guy currently.
In no other profession would a manager performing this badly, keep his job - especially in the current climate!
Still no guarantee they wouldn't !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However, they haven't got to go far to be better than Parkinson - so your argument has more holes in it than our back four (and that's saying something!!)
That guy managing Falkirk for one - they are doing well north of the border for a small team which natural centre of gravity is in their second or third division.......
He was interested in the job post Pardew but we never went back to him, I think as Scottish managers have had a fairly good record this side of the border (Ferguson, Shankly and all that) so worth a punt that guy......
We havn`t fallen so far yet that good division one and some Championship managers wouldn`t jump ship to come to us. Our stadium, reputation, fanbase and recent history make us more attractive for lets say O`Driscoll than staying with Donny. Just my opinion.
I was watching satillite tv the other night and came across a Scottish Channel that had a documentary on it relating to John Hughes- Bsaically it was a round up of what he had achieved at the club- They absolutely love him there. He has turned the team around and has invested in a youth policy that is now beginning reap rewards- alot of seasoned professionals were lining up to sign his praises so he must be doing so good up there- we should seriously look at him.
I can't decide whether I want him to go or not, though I wouldn't be that disappointed if he went.
His record is rubbish, that's a given. But I think with a proper fresh start in the summer he might do a good job. A bit of stability would be good for us too. I'm not sure appointing another manager would be less of a risk than just keeping Parky.
This decision isn't that clear cut, imho. The only thing I know is that if the board get it wrong then they will be slaughtered by a lot of people who will have the benefit of hindsight.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]We havn`t fallen so far yet that good division one and some Championship managers wouldn`t jump ship to come to us. Our stadium, reputation, fanbase and recent history make us more attractive for lets say O`Driscoll than staying with Donny. Just my opinion.
Maybe but how much would he cost? Wouldn't be surprised if he stayed at Doncaster though. Would be happy if we could get him, if he could get us passing like Doncaster it would be great.
[cite]Posted By: stubs1310[/cite]I was watching satillite tv the other night and came across a Scottish Channel that had a documentary on it relating to John Hughes- Bsaically it was a round up of what he had achieved at the club- They absolutely love him there. He has turned the team around and has invested in a youth policy that is now beginning reap rewards- alot of seasoned professionals were lining up to sign his praises so he must be doing so good up there- we should seriously look at him.
Again I wouldn't mind him but don't know much about him.
If we could get either of them, would they be given enough time? They'd want to build their own teams, won't know much about our squad so would need time to have a serious look as well. Neither of them got their clubs to where they are just by coming in and motivating the team, they've built their clubs up slowly and there's a lot, lot less pressure at clubs like Doncaster and Falkirk than there is here.
why wait till the end of the season ? Walk now Parky. Your record is appalling, you have brought in various loanees with little effect, you have alienated players like Moo2 and then question their attitude, you have lumbered us with Burton, during games your subs are reactive not proactive, in two must wins games against fellow strugglers you can't muster a single point, you start the first of those (Donny) with one up front, the second you have only one striker on the bench (why no Dicko of Fleets), we have seen nothing new from free kicks or corners, you are tactically inept and devoid of ideas. Please walk now.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]you have lumbered us with Burton
He will be useful next season and would have been good this season if we had proper goalscorers to complement him. Very good hold up play, good awareness of what is around him and very good work rate.
If this post is too off-topic... parky will you please play moots.
Can anyone explain to me why the board think Parkinson is the best man for the job when all the facts and stats fly in the face of it. I just don`t get it.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Can anyone explain to me why the board think Parkinson is the best man for the job when all the facts and stats fly in the face of it. I just don`t get it.
There are better men for the job but Parky is probably as good as we can afford.
[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Can anyone explain to me why the board think Parkinson is the best man for the job when all the facts and stats fly in the face of it. I just don`t get it.
he is only the best man for the job because we can't afford to get rid. What a ridiculous state of affairs.
You are in many ways right, Large. But in your own way you are also just as rose-tinted as our dear friend Oggy with his misplaced 'all we have to do is win these two home games and we're right back in it' exhortations.
Why in the middle of a bloody recession would Parky walk out on a job that is paying him - I would guess - about eight grand a week? Especially as with his record, he's not going to be inundated with other offers.
Equally, the board is not going to sack him as they are not prepared to spend another cent on sorting out the management structure , having so expensively got it wrong four times in two and a half years.
Parky is a natural division three manager, so he's got as good a chance of doing well as anyone when we're playing Brentford and Wycombe next season. Plus he's cheaper than any other option. Unless we find some new investors and a new, more ambitious board, Parky is here to stay. Sorry, but we have to get used to it.
understand what you are saying Nigel BUT Parky is a lame duck. He's barely got a supporter behind him and we'll go into next season with him under enormous pressure to get results from the off. Lose our first two and he'd be toast. Then we'd be looking to replace a Manager once the season has started. The Board need to somehow raise the money to get rid of him. Get someone in to reinvigorate the Club from bottom to top. If we need to sell someone to pay him off then so be it. He is more of a Dead Man Walking than Pards was.
[cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Maybe I can simplify things a little:
If Parkinson stays my son and I won't be buying a season ticket next year, if he goes we will.
I have been thinking the same but I know that I will renew albeit reluctantly.
Parky did well there with Colchester, but Pardew (as he said so many times) did well in the Champ with Wet Spam...look where he took us.
Parky is a hopeless manager, the stats do not lie. Being controversial here but I think they need to get rid of both Parky & Kinsella at the end of the year.
My main point, as I said at the start is that Parky has on every front failed in his time as Assistant & now First Team Manager - there is not a single thing that can be said in his favour in terms of the results achieved in either capacity (other than beating Palarse for which we say - thanks!).
If he stays on & the trend continues, at what point next season does he get the bullet - and how much damage to our morale would have been done by then?
I was of the opinion, stated on here a few times, that Pardew should have gone in the summer - instead we hung around until nearly Xmas to confirm his ineptitude. By then it was too late.
I really can foresee the same scenario developing with Parky.
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Your argument is the most bizarre I've ever heard! He's got the worst record EVER as Charlton manager
I said definitely better. He's not managed at all yet. Same with Kinsella (apart from our reserves) and Powell.
Yes they can.
Same when people say 'oh just play the youngsters'. I saw some of them in the Brighton game, and others in the Spurs youth cup game, and they would be worse.
If we sack Parkinson, or he resigns, make Kinsella/Di Canio manager, we could get it completely wrong and end up in League Two like Bradford.
He's the worst in our history and we are STILL a big club compared to a lot of Championship sides, so we'll definitely get a better manager in than the guy currently.
In no other profession would a manager performing this badly, keep his job - especially in the current climate!
However, they haven't got to go far to be better than Parkinson - so your argument has more holes in it than our back four (and that's saying something!!)
He was interested in the job post Pardew but we never went back to him, I think as Scottish managers have had a fairly good record this side of the border (Ferguson, Shankly and all that) so worth a punt that guy......
His record is rubbish, that's a given. But I think with a proper fresh start in the summer he might do a good job. A bit of stability would be good for us too. I'm not sure appointing another manager would be less of a risk than just keeping Parky.
This decision isn't that clear cut, imho. The only thing I know is that if the board get it wrong then they will be slaughtered by a lot of people who will have the benefit of hindsight.
Maybe but how much would he cost? Wouldn't be surprised if he stayed at Doncaster though. Would be happy if we could get him, if he could get us passing like Doncaster it would be great.
Again I wouldn't mind him but don't know much about him.
If we could get either of them, would they be given enough time? They'd want to build their own teams, won't know much about our squad so would need time to have a serious look as well. Neither of them got their clubs to where they are just by coming in and motivating the team, they've built their clubs up slowly and there's a lot, lot less pressure at clubs like Doncaster and Falkirk than there is here.
He will be useful next season and would have been good this season if we had proper goalscorers to complement him. Very good hold up play, good awareness of what is around him and very good work rate.
If this post is too off-topic... parky will you please play moots.
There are better men for the job but Parky is probably as good as we can afford.
he is only the best man for the job because we can't afford to get rid. What a ridiculous state of affairs.
Why in the middle of a bloody recession would Parky walk out on a job that is paying him - I would guess - about eight grand a week? Especially as with his record, he's not going to be inundated with other offers.
Equally, the board is not going to sack him as they are not prepared to spend another cent on sorting out the management structure , having so expensively got it wrong four times in two and a half years.
Parky is a natural division three manager, so he's got as good a chance of doing well as anyone when we're playing Brentford and Wycombe next season. Plus he's cheaper than any other option. Unless we find some new investors and a new, more ambitious board, Parky is here to stay. Sorry, but we have to get used to it.
If Parkinson stays my son and I won't be buying a season ticket next year, if he goes we will.
I have been thinking the same but I know that I will renew albeit reluctantly.
Parky is a hopeless manager, the stats do not lie. Being controversial here but I think they need to get rid of both Parky & Kinsella at the end of the year.
If he stays on & the trend continues, at what point next season does he get the bullet - and how much damage to our morale would have been done by then?
I was of the opinion, stated on here a few times, that Pardew should have gone in the summer - instead we hung around until nearly Xmas to confirm his ineptitude. By then it was too late.
I really can foresee the same scenario developing with Parky.