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Parkinson must walk at the end of the season.....

edited March 2009 in General Charlton
Unfortunately he will forever be tainted by this abysmal season. I'm sure he's a nice bloke but he is a hopeless manager. we are going out with a whimper - we have had oneor two good performances, but many many displays of total, unacceptable garbage.

If we get off to a bad start next season, or even go through a barren spell - the ghosts of this season will haunt him & us & could further destroy us. we need a new manager with no baggage, experience at this (3rd Div) level & someone whom the fans are 100% behind - who will also get a bit of a break as we undoubtedly make adjustments to the new tier we are playing in.

Bottom line is Parky must go in May - we needed & called for, a break from the ineptitude of the Pardew/Parkinson management team back in December.

If ever there is a need for it, it's now.

Please Parky go for the sake of our club.
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  • I have been wanting to post this but feared the boards wrath. Well done Oakster.
  • edited March 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Oakster[/cite]If we get off to a bad start next season, or even go through a barren spell - the ghosts of this season will haunt him & us & could further destroy us.



    I think this is the killer comment.
  • edited March 2009
    I genuinely don't know which way I feel about this. On the one hand you can't really argue with the stats, which in his case are bad beyond belief and would have seen him sacked at 99% of other clubs before now - on the other, is yet another change of manager what we need? It hasn't worked out so well for us so far in the last few seasons has it? But then I start thinking, "Well. Anybody we get could hardly do any worse could they?", and I change my mind again...

    My gut instinct is to see the bloke down the road as just not good enough, but my head says maybe we need to try to stabilise the club first.
  • I know exactly what you are say Les A but as you point out the stats don`t lie. I fear that with him at the helm we won`t bottom out this mess next season. Thanks Parky we know you tried and good luck but we need fresh and a clear idea of whats required next season. Noy sure Parky can deliver that.
  • If Parky is sacked, rather than identifying a specific person, what profile of manager would you like to see?

    Personally, I would go for a successful young conference manager - no baggage, used to working with young players and a limited budget, researches signings well.
  • I'm not sure what the arguments FOR keeping Parky really are.

    The only one I can see is that we cannot afford to get rid of him, or replace him.

    The "stability" one is a bit nonsensical - if stability brings success then no manager ever would get the tin-tack. I agree with the stability claim if things are going well, but at the moment we are about as stable as Gazza after a night on the tiles with Jimmy "Five Bellies". Getting rid of Parky & bringing in someone new is about as likely to further upset this stability as getting Gazza another pint, after his 12th of the night.
  • Agreed Oakster. We need stability but not at the expence of results. Be honest could his stats be any worse ? and it ain`t over yet. Worst manager in Charltons history.
  • Parkinson in his post match comments has indirectly accepted we are relegated at last. He's talking about playing youngsters in the next couple of games, and if he had any hope of survival he wouldn't be doing that.

    Planning for next season.
  • I hope he goes. But I don't hold out much hope.
  • I think the board are hoping for a newe buyer so they dont have to make the decision.But the worse we get the less chance of this happening increase.
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  • A change of manager might be necessary to allow us to re-start with a clean slate, but we have to get someone in who'll be better than Parky. Who realisatically is out there that would come to Charlton and make the necessary changes to the squad that need to be made and do so with very little money.
  • What is Parky's Championship record now, including his time at Hull...he cant of won more than 5 games out of 50 odd in charge. I thought we were starting to turnt he corner a few weeks ago but we havn't. His record is worse than Pardews and I really don't think there is anyway we should keep him at the end of the season.
  • As soon as we are relegated he needs to be sacked and the club need to have the replacement in no more than 1 week (that is providing they have a job already if they are out of work then give them the job straight away) after the end of the season so that the successor has the whole pre season to plan and sort this shambles out.
    My choice would be Paul Trollope with Lennie above him.
  • Not sure i agree with the Parkinson out argument.With the money we've got and the place we are heading to ,i really don't see how we are going to get anyone much better.
    If there is one thing i think we've learned from this sorry state of affairs is that whoever takes this club forward will need to have the run of the club from top to bottom and should be allowed to do it their way Just as Mr A Curbishley did all them years ago.
  • How about giving Mervin Day a try.
    If we can't get Curbs back try his no 2. Big Merv's record as manager at Carlisle was pretty good and he knows the club inside out.
  • Quote - i really don't see how we are going to get anyone much better.

    Who could possibly do any worse. Pardew did better !!
  • As Solar Radio is sponsoring PP's training kit for the remainder of this
    season, I will be sitting at his table at the Sponsors Evening in late
    April. I'm thinking of offering another fan the chance of being my guest for
    the evening, with the chance to ask Phil some polite questions about what
    has happened to the team and their 'performance' in recent months.
    Maybe I could put this place up for auction and give the proceeds to Valley Gold :-)
  • I rather enjoyed the game today - probably because the result didn't seem to matter very much.

    But it has to be said that Parky's record is truly, horribly, shockingly bad - 11pts from 18 games, for heaven's sake!

    That's worse than the record that got Pardew sacked this season (16pts from 18 games) - and just as significantly, worse than his own record at Hull, which earned him the sack up there.

    And despite an apparently improved spirit in the side, since he was appointed as permanent manager when the board told us he was "overwhelmingly'' the best man for the job, the results haven't really got any better.We've just got zero points from the two home games against fellow strugglers which the so-called 'rose-tinted brigade' told us were going to throw us right back into the mix.

    It's very much Parky's team, too, so he can't really lay too much blame the toxicity of the Pardew inheritance.

    He's brought in seven players - Burton, Murty, Butterfield, Ward, Spring , Soares and Kandol. And he's promoted Elliot, Shelvey and Dickson, all of whom Pardew ignored. That's almost an entire new team. From the XI Pardew played in his last match, only Youga, Bailey and Hudson remain as first choices.

    However, I 'm not sure I want him to go . Although he has shown at both Hull and Charlton that he's out of his depth in the championship, he's cheap and he might well be OK when we drop down a league.

    As a player he was a highly committed journeyman who gave his all, without ever reaching the heights. He's cast in exactly the same mould as a manager - but paradoxically, that could well be exactly what we need come next August in division three...
  • Motivating and setting up a team are skills that are effectively the same whatever the division. He has shown no sign of understanding either imho. As for cheap nigel........Tou know what they say.....Pay peanuts and get monkeys !
  • Very much doubt that Parky will go of his own accord - his managerial record with Hull, and now with us, isn't exactly going to put him in pole position to take over at any many other clubs.

    I didn't agree with him being made caretaker manager after Pardew went, and certainly not being appointed permanently, but it's not his fault that he was given the job.

    Richard Murray said at the AGM that his reputation as a manager would stand or fall on his ability to keep us up, but from the outside looking in, surely the most damning thing at the moment is that it seems that we'll be going down with a whimper rather than a fight.

    One interesting factor is that his current contract runs until the end of next season, so if the Board want him to stay - and in the interests of stability and longer term planning - could he end being 'rewarded' with the offer of a new deal in the summer?!
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  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Screamer[/cite]Parkinson in his post match comments has indirectly accepted we are relegated at last. He's talking about playing youngsters in the next couple of games, and if he had any hope of survival he wouldn't be doing that.

    Planning for next season.[/quote]

    Didnt PArdew say that last year.
  • I definatley don't want Parkinson to leave at the end of the season. He supposedly knows League 1 inside out and I for one, think he will shine in this league and bring us back up!
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: DoodieBox[/cite]I definatley don't want Parkinson to leave at the end of the season. He supposedly knows League 1 inside out and I for one, think he will shine in this league and bring us back up![/quote]

    And then when he brings us back - what do we do? Go down again because he can't manage at this level?! And we become a yo-yo club between division 2 and 3

    DO BEHAVE!
  • edited March 2009
    what are you smoking doodie
  • Parky has certainly not shown any signs of even knowing his under crackers inside out !
  • What I don't understand is leaving Dickson and Shelvey out of the squad. I heard Dickson had a stinker tuesday. Ok but make him sub and don't destroy any confidence he had. Also Shelvey as well....good man management there.....tosser
  • Shaun O'Driscoll at Doncaster....pull out all the stops....it may be a step down in leagues but aren't we a bigger club than Donny ?
  • thing is,who calls the shots at Charlton these days!like every day life we are all under pressure to be the best at our jobs!
    Comes from all angles these days! management have there say to a degree
  • I think he's got as much chance as anyone of building a team for next season. We're not going to get a proven manager in, we're not going to be able to take a manager from a club like Doncaster.

    Once we're relegated mathematically we'll see some good performances, the players will relax, the fans won't be getting so frustrated, a few youngsters will probably come in and liven things up.

    He's tried to build a team, but that's very hard to do in the middle of the season. In the summer, everyone will know what league we'll be playing in, what sort of players we need etc.

    Fair enough replace him if we can get someone who will definitely be better, but I doubt anyone knows who that would be, and knows they'd love the chance to manage Charlton.
  • [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]

    Fair enough replace him if we can get someone who will definitely be better, but I doubt anyone knows who that would be, and knows they'd love the chance to manage Charlton.

    Paolo Di Canio, anyone?????
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