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Jonjo Shelvey in Dubai
EveshamAddick
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On the BBC website today:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2n8wd2znzo
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If we ever made it back to the Premier League, I think football 'journalists' heads will explode when they have to mention us in articles. Obviously I'm biased, but we really do seem to be the forgotten club whenever an ex-player (and we have a lot of them) is mentioned.8
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I love that guy, firstly what a player and secondly he is honest and speaks totally unlike how we are used to footballers speaking.
Also he is from good stock his uncle is a pal so maybe I'm biased.10 -
He’s bang on about London unfortunately.Also, I live in a world where Jonjo Shelvey is 33 years old, remember his debut & his rise to the first team - time flies
So much time for Jonjo, a good lad & Uncle who used to post on here is a top bloke too6 -
The team he plays for just signed Ravel Morrison last week as well. Imagine you're playing in the UAE 3rd tier and the opponents midfield is Shelvey and Morrison.1
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Was Uncle Jonjo or a mate of his?NorthStandUltra said:He’s bang on about London unfortunately.Also, I live in a world where Jonjo Shelvey is 33 years old, remember his debut & his rise to the first team - time flies
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Wish him all the very best - both for himself and his family. I hope he spends a happy time in Dubai and I am sure he'd be a welcome guest back at The Valley at any time in the future.
He's wrong about London though. But at least he appears to refuse to be drawn on his views on the subject, which is laudable.8 -
Yep, the place is unrecognisable from 20 years ago.NorthStandUltra said:He’s bang on about London unfortunately.Also, I live in a world where Jonjo Shelvey is 33 years old, remember his debut & his rise to the first team - time flies
So much time for Jonjo, a good lad & Uncle who used to post on here is a top bloke too3 -
If wants to live in a soulless Sharia law state, then good for him, I'll stay close to a vibrant, interesting city like London14
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More fool you Jonjo. Bet you haven’t got 35 Pret A Manger’s in a mile radius out there son.
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Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
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And obviously London isn't perfect. Its suffering from the problems of neglect and underfunding from the last 25 years. But it is still an amazing vibrant city full of life and one of the greatest cities in the world.8
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Didn't you move further away from London?Rothko said:If wants to live in a soulless Sharia law state, then good for him, I'll stay close to a vibrant, interesting city like London
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His comments about London are about not wearing a watch, and getting a phone out in public.
I do both personally.
There is also reference to rich people getting robbed, which has always happened in London.
I think what has changed is his age, not London.
Good luck to him, but justifying a soulless MacDonalds of a resort as a good place to be because it isn’t London strikes me as desperation or the paranoia of a wealthy person.
London or Dubai?
No brainer for me, but then again it is my home town, and there is no Valley to go to of a Saturday in Dubai.
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He was never the sharpest tool in the box and that article backs that up .9
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Take the people out of London and its the best city in the world. Unfortunately he is spot on about the watch and the phone situation. I see it on a daily basis and have been seconds away from being done by the balaclava boys on electric bikes. If I had his money I'd do exactly the same tbh.4
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But we did get a mention "It was a far cry from the crowds the former England international was used to during previous spells at Newcastle United, Liverpool, Swansea City and others."stoneroses19 said:If we ever made it back to the Premier League, I think football 'journalists' heads will explode when they have to mention us in articles. Obviously I'm biased, but we really do seem to be the forgotten club whenever an ex-player (and we have a lot of them) is mentioned.9 -
Dubai is the classless persons idea of a classy place. Pure tack.cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai10 -
We moved just outside the boundaries of London for house price reasons, but not cause we were scared of different-looking people. Our eldest goes to a school in London, and he's better off there mixing with kids from across SE London.O-Randy-Hunt said:
Didn't you move further away from London?Rothko said:If wants to live in a soulless Sharia law state, then good for him, I'll stay close to a vibrant, interesting city like London4 -
except for the Millwall fansRothko said:
We moved just outside the boundaries of London for house price reasons, but not cause we were scared of different-looking people. Our eldest goes to a school in London, and he's better off there mixing with kids from across SE London.O-Randy-Hunt said:
Didn't you move further away from London?Rothko said:If wants to live in a soulless Sharia law state, then good for him, I'll stay close to a vibrant, interesting city like London5 -
If thats how he feels and thats what he has done, good luck to him and his family. He's in a fortunate position in that he is able, at his time of life to be able to give it a go. He talks about bringing up children, this is the bit where it may in the future get a little harder for his family. They may need to forge their own paths in life and its usually a little harder in someone else's country.
My son has worked in Dubai and recently Saudi, the money is good if you have in demand skills but there are differences some obvious and some not that many would find tough. My son was asked to live in and work in Saudi, he was told he would be set for life for 5 years work but in the words of my son, "I'll get on an airplane and work anywhere but I want to live in England just for the weather". There are other reasons besides it being ridiculously hot for my sons decision but when you see Saudis taking pictures on phones of rain you know you'll miss your home town.
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Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living
It's obviously not a place for everyone and it's easy to dismiss it as soulless but there's many plus points as mentioned above. It's a very vibrant city that prioritises success and well-being, and things like fitness and wellness are massive here, which i see as a good thing.
And yes there's a lot of rich people here but it's definitely not all extravagance and excess, the vast majority of expats live a perfectly normal day to day life here. We don't all drive around in Ferrari's and party at beach clubs every day.
It's like someone from Dubai generalising against living in London because of street crime, gangs and the threat of getting stabbed walking home after dark. Yes it happens, but it's not applicable to everyone, everywhere in London.6 -
Well that's a shame, guess that's why Eastbourne is still popular.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living
It's obviously not a place for everyone and it's easy to dismiss it as soulless but there's many plus points as mentioned above. It's a very vibrant city that prioritises success and well-being, and things like fitness and wellness are massive here, which i see as a good thing.
And yes there's a lot of rich people here but it's definitely not all extravagance and excess, the vast majority of expats live a perfectly normal day to day life here. We don't all drive around in Ferrari's and party at beach clubs every day.
It's like someone from Dubai generalising against living in London because of street crime, gangs and the threat of getting stabbed walking home after dark. Yes it happens, but it's not applicable to everyone, everywhere in London.5 -
Yea but apart from all of that, I'd much rather be jumping on a bus from woolwich in the pissing down rain, with all the school kids to go to work to pay shit loads in tax to the wonderful people running our country init.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living
It's obviously not a place for everyone and it's easy to dismiss it as soulless but there's many plus points as mentioned above. It's a very vibrant city that prioritises success and well-being, and things like fitness and wellness are massive here, which i see as a good thing.
And yes there's a lot of rich people here but it's definitely not all extravagance and excess, the vast majority of expats live a perfectly normal day to day life here. We don't all drive around in Ferrari's and party at beach clubs every day.
It's like someone from Dubai generalising against living in London because of street crime, gangs and the threat of getting stabbed walking home after dark. Yes it happens, but it's not applicable to everyone, everywhere in London.2 -
You need to experience everything in lifeSE10Addick said:
except for the Millwall fansRothko said:
We moved just outside the boundaries of London for house price reasons, but not cause we were scared of different-looking people. Our eldest goes to a school in London, and he's better off there mixing with kids from across SE London.O-Randy-Hunt said:
Didn't you move further away from London?Rothko said:If wants to live in a soulless Sharia law state, then good for him, I'll stay close to a vibrant, interesting city like London1 -
It's Linkedin with added stoningsChris_from_Sidcup said:
Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living
It's obviously not a place for everyone and it's easy to dismiss it as soulless but there's many plus points as mentioned above. It's a very vibrant city that prioritises success and well-being, and things like fitness and wellness are massive here, which i see as a good thing.
And yes there's a lot of rich people here but it's definitely not all extravagance and excess, the vast majority of expats live a perfectly normal day to day life here. We don't all drive around in Ferrari's and party at beach clubs every day.
It's like someone from Dubai generalising against living in London because of street crime, gangs and the threat of getting stabbed walking home after dark. Yes it happens, but it's not applicable to everyone, everywhere in London.3 -
Are these paid for by the State?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living
It's obviously not a place for everyone and it's easy to dismiss it as soulless but there's many plus points as mentioned above. It's a very vibrant city that prioritises success and well-being, and things like fitness and wellness are massive here, which i see as a good thing.
And yes there's a lot of rich people here but it's definitely not all extravagance and excess, the vast majority of expats live a perfectly normal day to day life here. We don't all drive around in Ferrari's and party at beach clubs every day.
It's like someone from Dubai generalising against living in London because of street crime, gangs and the threat of getting stabbed walking home after dark. Yes it happens, but it's not applicable to everyone, everywhere in London.1 -
Aside from the beaches and the tax bit, I tick all the rest off off in my neck of the woods. And woods are something I'll have on my list of something I'm sure I would miss.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Aside from the obvious tax-free earnings:cantersaddick said:Obviously there is the tax factor. But of all the wonderful, beautiful places in the world you could move to (or go on holiday to) I just cannot get my head around Dubai.
Soulless, artificial, bunch of high rises built from the desert, they have to create fake rain to maintain life there, everything is just extravagance and excess. Gotta be at least 100 places I'd consider moving to before Dubai
Safety
Education for kids
Weather
Cleanliness
Healthcare
Job opportunities
Countless great restaurants
Beaches
General standard of living1 -
I live in London and it's an incredible city. There's plenty wrong with it like most cities but if you can't find any of the good stuff then if says more about you.
Dubai strikes me as one of the most souless places on earth - driven by wealth.4 -
This is going to be an interesting thread to look back on in a few years time. I suspect some of the views being expressed aren't going to age very well.1
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Genuinely not sure but also interested what you mean. Are you saying the views about London will be proved right/wrong or Dubai?SantaClaus said:This is going to be an interesting thread to look back on in a few years time. I suspect some of the views being expressed aren't going to age very well.1
