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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    2121 said:
    Hadnt cared much before reading this thread! 

    Why does barry banan dislike us?!  Palace stick? 
    He got twisted up big time by one of our players and got a nasty injury without being touched only to receive a load of stick when going off. He didn't take it too well 🤣
    I think it was a bit unfortunate all that. he got turned very embarrassingly by Tareiq Holmes-Dennis diving in to try and block a cross that THD dummied. It was hilarious, but also Bannan ended up going straight onto his knee and getting badly injured. Nobody actually realised how bad it was at the time (I think the official Twitter account said he was being treated for embarrassment) so he got the piss taken out of him as he went down and got taken off. He's taken that as Charlton mocking his injury when to be honest it was just fans celebrating one of their players having a good moment, not massively different to the Tony Watt corner play against Forest. Bannan has turned this into a weird little vendetta though, it's odd.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,621
    edited October 16

    Curb_It said:
    I think Banan also hates us as our comms team took the absolute piss on Twitter about a miss he made during one of our games... they ridiculed it if I remember correctly.  So he wasn't happy about that and when we got relegated he tweeted about us being relegated along the lines of good riddance or something.







  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,722
    If we held a grudge against every football team because of run-ins with its fans during the 60s, 70s and 80s we’d be Millwall. We’re not. Personally I think Sheff Wed could already be fucked but I’m a Charlton fan, I know what it’s like when your club is in that position. If they are going to fill the away end then good on them, they might as well make the most if because there wont be too many games next season where they will get 3,000 tickets.
    There's been quite a few problems with their support in much more recent years as well. 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
    Read the thread, the point is that it wasn't a very long time ago. 
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,428
    edited October 16
    Totally agree with Blackpool72. Watching Charlton home and away through the late 60’s and the 70’s was a unique experience, but was also one I would not have missed for the world. Lifelong friendships were forged during that time, a time when violence both in the ground and outside was commonplace up and down the country.
    Most of the time, you were able to navigate safely through this with a bit of nouse and common sense. But inevitably there were times when you had a choice - do you run, or do you stand your ground. 
    Not being the fastest on my toes, the choice for me was fairly straightforward! And you’d be surprised how often just standing your ground was enough for the opposition to have second thoughts, and they would quickly melt away into the darkness.
    As I said, I would not have missed those days for the world, but now with children and grandchildren, I am relieved that football violence is now the exception rather than the norm, and long may that be the case.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
    Slight over reaction there mate. 

    I haven't heard anyone say they want Sheffield Wednesday to go bust or anything like that ( I certainly don't).

    But football rivalry is part and parcel of being a football fan.

    Do I want us to thrash them on Saturday 
    Yes.
    Would I like to see them get relegated 
    Yes.
    Nothing wrong with wishing for those things in my view. 
    Totaly different from wanting them to go out of existence. 
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,223
    Yes...  we all got put in a Police escort from the ground after the cup game in 2006. For the first time ever for me!  A personal memorable occasion mainly due to the fact that it was still kicking off at Kings X between all sorts of teams when we were getting off the train and Tavern asked me out for the first time at the barrier!  I did laugh as I said yes okay but I think your mates over there need a hand and he pretended not to know them...

    I hope he doesnt read this one. 

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/4565144.stm 

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Everyone has their own beef , I had the proper hump with them when they laughed at our relegation but then I saw how loads of our lot were mocking Norwich as they joined us in relegation last game of the season to league one in 2009 and footy fans are a mixed bunch of bellends and cnuts amongst the normal lot .
    percentage wise , no one can touch the scum .
    But Wednesday have massive support so will have lots of numbers of the b & c’s .
    I’ve been hillsbrough a few times and been lucky enough to have no agg .

    I don’t mind em but totally understand others beef with them .

    the owners a twunt and hired meire , we’re still under the influence of our twunt who hired meire 

    good luck to Wednesday and their protests , they are a massive club and have proper away support 
    to be bringing 3k + to us sold out where they are is next level 


  • Ollywozere
    Ollywozere Posts: 1,542
    edited October 16
    Curb_It said:
    I think Banan also hates us as our comms team took the absolute piss on Twitter about a miss he or something he did during one of our games... they ridiculed it if I remember correctly.  So he wasn't happy about that and when we got relegated he tweeted about us being relegated along the lines of good riddance or something.




    When Tareiq Holmes-Dennis tied him up in knots before putting the ball through his legs and racing away, we Tweeted along the lines that it was a great bit of skill from THD to leave Bannan on the deck. He is "now being treated for embarrassment". 
    Bannan had walked/limped off so we had no idea he'd done anything serious. A week or so later they announced that he had done his ACL. 
    Not ideal, but we weren't to know. It was considered good banter at the time and we would never have posted something along those lines if it was obvious he had been seriously injured. 
    So that's the story of that!

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
    Slight over reaction there mate. 

    I haven't heard anyone say they want Sheffield Wednesday to go bust or anything like that ( I certainly don't).

    But football rivalry is part and parcel of being a football fan.

    Do I want us to thrash them on Saturday 
    Yes.
    Would I like to see them get relegated 
    Yes.
    Nothing wrong with wishing for those things in my view. 
    Totaly different from wanting them to go out of existence. 
    There are posts on this thread from people saying they want them to go bust and posts saying they are pro-Chansiri which can only mean they want Wednesday to go bust as that’s where he’s taking them. The rest of what you say I totally agree with, it’s fine to have a grudge and there are valid reasons for them. Still wouldn’t make me be anti their protests though as I see it as a different issue 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,231
    3 points on Saturday and if they are still in the shit when we play them at Hillsborough, then another 3 points then.

    It's a dog eat dog world and if them being in the current scenario means they are relegated this season then so be it.  If the boot was on the other foot, then they would be saying exactly the same

    Shame there is not 2 more clubs in the same boat in the Championship.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    I want them the owner to stay and keep racking up embargoes.

    Anything that helps keep them below us is good

    Don't want them to go out of business



  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 247
    They're all bastards. Had to dodge a few traffic cones being thrown up there in 2012.
  • They really have a proper hatred of Charlton. At one point a few years back, their owlstalk forum had three threads running on the first page about us and the pure hate was quite astonishing, these threads were dozens of pages long.

    Adding to what others have said, if you travel away you will always at some point come up against some idiots but with Wednesday it is a constant, it happens every visit. Hillsborough is probably one of my most frequently visited grounds, I have hardly missed any of our matches their since the late 70's so that is a lot of crap I have faced over the years and I certainly do not go looking for it!

    Add to the shit I have seen them dish out at the Valley over the years, it is easy to see why so many on here could not give a toss if they end up in the northern prem.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,648
    edited October 16
    They'll be in the Oak so those supporting their cause can shake them warmly by the hand and swap tales of protests.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    fenaddick said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
    Slight over reaction there mate. 

    I haven't heard anyone say they want Sheffield Wednesday to go bust or anything like that ( I certainly don't).

    But football rivalry is part and parcel of being a football fan.

    Do I want us to thrash them on Saturday 
    Yes.
    Would I like to see them get relegated 
    Yes.
    Nothing wrong with wishing for those things in my view. 
    Totaly different from wanting them to go out of existence. 
    There are posts on this thread from people saying they want them to go bust and posts saying they are pro-Chansiri which can only mean they want Wednesday to go bust as that’s where he’s taking them. The rest of what you say I totally agree with, it’s fine to have a grudge and there are valid reasons for them. Still wouldn’t make me be anti their protests though as I see it as a different issue 
    I'm not anti their protests.
    The question put was will I be adding my voice to their protests ie joining in with their protests and I won't.
  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 515
    I'm sure by Saturday evening everybody would have concluded that they really are a bunch of charmless scumbags. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    I'm sure Powell didn't help the relationship when he swung on their goalposts at the FA Cup game!
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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    I'm not so vitriolic about their demise. IMHO I wouldn't want any club going through the hell we endured under Roland, ESI and further back when leaving The Valley.
    Cowboy owners are dreadful and I hope Wednesday get out of the mess they're in.

    But...there's no doubt they swerved punishment in 19/20 and we got relegated. And that they danced on our grave. 
    So I hope we smash them on Saturday - and they end up bottom of the league come the end of the season.  


  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    sam3110 said:
    I'm sure Powell didn't help the relationship when he swung on their goalposts at the FA Cup game!
    I think the thing that really didn't help the relationship there was the vile racist abuse he received online straight afterwards
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    Totally agree with Blackpool72. Watching Charlton home and away through the late 60’s and the 70’s was a unique experience, but was also one I would not have missed for the world. Lifelong friendships were forged during that time, a time when violence both in the ground and outside was commonplace up and down the country.
    Most of the time, you were able to navigate safely through this with a bit of nouse and common sense. But inevitably there were times when you had a choice - do you run, or do you stand your ground. 
    Not being the fastest on my toes, the choice for me was fairly straightforward! And you’d be surprised how often just standing your ground was enough for the opposition to have second thoughts, and they would quickly melt away into the darkness.
    As I said, I would not have missed those days for the world, but now with children and grandchildren, I am relieved that football violence is now the exception rather than the norm, and long may that be the case.

    It's a tribal thing, I am 20 years younger than Sir @blackpool72 but I go back long enough to know how things were. 
    Most games there was 'tension', it was an accepted thing.

  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,654
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    cafctom said:
    Imagine being so sensitive that a stupid comment from a player about 10 years ago, and a few idiotic fans (of which we have a few ourselves), is enough for anyone to show zero sympathy for a club and generations of its fans that have followed them for 158 years. 

    Seriously, some of you need to grow up a little bit. 
    Woke nonsense . Fuck em 
    Well there's an argument full of logic and sense.
    Trying to explain to someone what it was like being a football fan in the 70s is very hard to do.
    If you experienced that era you fully understand some of the comments on here.
    If on the other hand you are too young to have lived in that era then you  have no idea what it was like. 
    Some of us have a strong dislike for Sheffield Wednesday because of what has happened down the years but I doubt you will understand why.
    You’re right - I am too young to have experienced it first hand. And that’s probably a good thing, because I don’t have a skewed / biased perspective of them as a club based on things that happened a very long time ago, in what was clearly a very different era to be a football fan than it is now.

    So, how about those Sheffield Wednesday fans who were also not about in the 70s? The kids who are on the start of their journey with a hobby they’re falling in love with? The local businesses who depend on them? 

    Should it be OK to see them suffer all because of the idiotic behaviour of others 50 years ago? Of course not. 

    Ultimately, a bad owner at Sheffield Wednesday is not just a Sheffield Wednesday problem. It’s an English football problem. If you want to see Sheffield Wednesday lose every week or get relegated because of a personal experience - I get that. That’s part of being an emotional football fan.

    But anyone taking enjoyment out of a situation where a club is potentially going to the wall needs to take a step back and see it from a far bigger (and more important) perspective.

    No doubt that will just get called “woke nonsense”, but I don’t care. The health of English Football is more important than a few people’s gripes that date back to a few scrapes in the 1970s.
    Fck em!
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,387
    edited October 16
    Totally agree with Blackpool72. Watching Charlton home and away through the late 60’s and the 70’s was a unique experience, but was also one I would not have missed for the world. Lifelong friendships were forged during that time, a time when violence both in the ground and outside was commonplace up and down the country.
    Most of the time, you were able to navigate safely through this with a bit of nouse and common sense. But inevitably there were times when you had a choice - do you run, or do you stand your ground. 
    Not being the fastest on my toes, the choice for me was fairly straightforward! And you’d be surprised how often just standing your ground was enough for the opposition to have second thoughts, and they would quickly melt away into the darkness.
    As I said, I would not have missed those days for the world, but now with children and grandchildren, I am relieved that football violence is now the exception rather than the norm, and long may that be the case.

    It's a tribal thing, I am 20 years younger than Sir @blackpool72 but I go back long enough to know how things were. 
    Most games there was 'tension', it was an accepted thing.

    Always managed to avoid trouble in the 80s (even at the battle of the bridge I dodged everything) but I would say that at every game there was an 'edge' to the atmosphere.  Some more than others.  Normally racked up outside the ground.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    CatAddick said:
    Totally agree with Blackpool72. Watching Charlton home and away through the late 60’s and the 70’s was a unique experience, but was also one I would not have missed for the world. Lifelong friendships were forged during that time, a time when violence both in the ground and outside was commonplace up and down the country.
    Most of the time, you were able to navigate safely through this with a bit of nouse and common sense. But inevitably there were times when you had a choice - do you run, or do you stand your ground. 
    Not being the fastest on my toes, the choice for me was fairly straightforward! And you’d be surprised how often just standing your ground was enough for the opposition to have second thoughts, and they would quickly melt away into the darkness.
    As I said, I would not have missed those days for the world, but now with children and grandchildren, I am relieved that football violence is now the exception rather than the norm, and long may that be the case.

    It's a tribal thing, I am 20 years younger than Sir @blackpool72 but I go back long enough to know how things were. 
    Most games there was 'tension', it was an accepted thing.

    Always managed to avoid trouble in the 80s (even at the battle of the bridge I dodged everything) but I would say that at every game there was an 'edge' to the atmosphere.  Some more than others.  Normally racked up outside the ground.

    St Andrews '87 before and after the game was a hoot.
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 178
    sam3110 said:

    Sheffield Wednesday has sold out the Jimmy Seed Stand on Saturday and will almost certainly be making a verbal protest and calling for the removal of their owner Dejphon Chansiri who has yet to pay the September wages, and seems hell-bent on killing their club. We have suffered enough from rogue owners in recent years, so will you be adding your voice to their protest on Saturday?

    Nope, you think if the shoe was on the other foot they'd give a fuck? I don't remember a huge outpouring of love and support from them when we were put through the wringer
    That says it for me, we have a history of run in's with that nasty cheating club. I hate them with a passion only exceeded by Crystal Palace. I wish them nothing but ill will. To paraphrase the little gimp Bannon - #karma!! Enjoy oblivion you scuzzy bastards.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,841
    I remember them taking The Covered End in 76.
    Mocking our relegation in 99.
    Attacking us at Hillsborough in 2014 and many other runs in with the 'orrible northern bastards.

    The last time we were relegated it was because the efl didn't deduct their points for breaking the rules in the same season.

    I'd be very pleased if they spent the next 20 years in Leagues 1, 2 or non league.
    So, can we take that as a no?

    :-)
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,621
    edited October 16


    Maybe we should give them the some pigs left over from 2016!

    Any one got any spares?
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,850
    Sheffield Wednesday have the owner they deserve.