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***Nathan Jones signs new Charlton deal to 2030***
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Talks alot of sense.Callumcafc said:4 -
Really good pair those two. Speak a lot of sense and are very knowledgable about the EFLSteven81 said:
Talks alot of sense.Callumcafc said:5 -
Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts
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That's madness.ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts6 -
Agreed - amazing how well they know us considering how many clubs they coverTheHerminator said:
Really good pair those two. Speak a lot of sense and are very knowledgable about the EFLSteven81 said:
Talks alot of sense.Callumcafc said:1 -
Must say, looking at that list of teams brings it home that we are in for some big interesting games next season...can't wait. 😊ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts0 -
Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Edit: Changed my stance, the content was great, will watch more in the future.2 -
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".9 -
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it6 -
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it5 - Sponsored links:
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Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.2 -
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.17 -
Changed my mind. Thought the content was great and will look out for more of its kind.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Ignore original post.2 -
Agreed, it is not the right conversation but they are generally excellent in providing, mostly, unbiased commentary on the EFL. Not through sensational or outlandish statements but through well thought out and researched ideas. Just because something isn't a sensationalist headline, doesn't mean its not thought out well or researched.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.4 -
Offering any manager a 5 yr contract is like buying a very expensive Euromillions ticket-very unlikely to be a winner.Dazzler21 said:
That's madness.ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts0 -
Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George?1 -
That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m awareMarcusH26 said:
Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George?1 -
Pretty impressive in that kind of industry to not let your loyalties slip out!fenaddick said:
That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m awareMarcusH26 said:
Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George?1 -
He goes and watches Wimbledon a lot, he mentioned that it’s the closest stadium to him a few timesfenaddick said:
That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m awareMarcusH26 said:
Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George?1 -
MarcusH26 said:
Pretty impressive in that kind of industry to not let your loyalties slip out!fenaddick said:
That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m awareMarcusH26 said:
Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too.fenaddick said:
He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazyBraziliance said:
Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans.fenaddick said:
It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculousBraziliance said:
Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior.Chunes said:
It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!Braziliance said:Callumcafc said:Hardly against the grain is it?
I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.
What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work".
Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact.
Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.
- Point out the obvious
- Say it with a lot of enthusiasm
- Avoid being opinionated
- Don't say anything that could be controversial
- Sit on the fence a bit
- Upload it
The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.
Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?
Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point.
Like I said, lazy content.
Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George?
Always good to make sure everything is in place and unlikely to slip out when least expected...🙄
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https://youtu.be/8Iz1XI3rpqg?si=8deFWaZM7d1gJn2OCharlton Athletic manager Nathan Jones visited University Campus of Football Business Wembley to offer advice and guidance to students on one of our many sports coaching-related degree courses, talking about his career, lessons he's learned and advice on what makes a successful football manager.4
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stoneroses19 said:https://youtu.be/8Iz1XI3rpqg?si=8deFWaZM7d1gJn2OCharlton Athletic manager Nathan Jones visited University Campus of Football Business Wembley to offer advice and guidance to students on one of our many sports coaching-related degree courses, talking about his career, lessons he's learned and advice on what makes a successful football manager.
Never take your job home to the family; so sleep at work.
If your players lose focus and are more interested in playing table tennis; don't forget the box of matches.
Always tape your fingers up as you end up biting the skin off.
Be confident in every decision you make; tell the media you are the greatest.
Look, If any fan gives you verbal, give it back with interest.
If any fan praises you while you have the trophy in your hands remind them that they once bad mouthed you.
When you are the boss, act like a boss and never be undermined by anyone especially the director of football.
Remember your roots, like mine are Blaenrhondda, in Mid Glamorgan, and send a WhatsApp message occasionally as you won't have time to go back.
Look, always have a good number Two early doors because you won't have time when you arrive at the training ground.
Even if your local team come calling like Cardiff did for me, don't take up the offer if that team is in a lower division but make sure your agent isn't shy in telling the world.
My team is Charlton Athletic and I would love it, really love it if we can beat Stoke and Saints in the coming season because they made the mistake of sacking me.
Never forget who has wronged you; write the names on post-it notes in your house on the rare times you are at home; "Gentleman behind my dugout"
Look, show your Character and be demonstrated in the technical areas on match days and never stand with your hands in your pockets like Micky Apples or big Russell Slade.
Finally it's been a pleasure for you to listen to me today so goodbye and may your God go with you.
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When you see that you have to ask whether committing to 5-year contracts is wise?ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts0 -
Richard Cawley mentioned on his podcast if/when managers are sacked they’re usually only paid for a year, regardless of how long their contract is, so it’s more about increasing the compensation other clubs would have to pay to bring him in.AFKABartram said:
When you see that you have to ask whether committing to 5-year contracts is wise?ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts
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Was a good pod to listen to over two episodes. NJ ranked 12/24 but the pod delved into the manager and their likely impact for better or worse on the team this season too.4
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Not if you’re very satisfied by your managers performance and plans. Should Jones have just two more seasons, turning us into a team challenging for a playoff place then he’ll be in demand. That’s a certainty. It means that Charlton can demand decent compensation and on the other side of the coin it means Jones can wholeheartedly buy into his project. Personally I think we’re very lucky to have secured him on such a long deal. It’s great forward planning by the club.KingKinsella said:
Offering any manager a 5 yr contract is like buying a very expensive Euromillions ticket-very unlikely to be a winner.Dazzler21 said:
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The top two weren't even in the Championship last season! A nutty league, with so many managers either being sacked or poached.ForeverAddickted said:Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts0 -
My season ticket is in the covered end so Nathan Jones isn’t really in close proximity most matches, however sitting just behind him in the lower west last night was interesting/exciting/concerning. I’ve never seen a manager of any club be as intense as he is on the sidelines, he doesn’t stop for the entire match and seems to lose it over the smallest of things.Do those who normally sit near the dugouts just get used to it during matches?2
