Left us flying high on confidence, player of the year, settled and a very bright future. To being a sad sorry sight.
I don't want him back because it is not down to us to pick him up so he can then move on again to a bigger club (shown his character/thinking). But i genuinely do hope he finds his flow again, because as a football fan who is proud of our academy, I would want to know he is more than a one hit wonder.
He was absolutely appalling in the loan spell last year. So much so, that at Colchester I was wondering whether West Ham had sent a chimp in a Diego Poyet costume.
Has gobbed off several times since he jumped ship. Based on that and hie crap he now looks I teally don't want him back here.
I disagree, he looks much better now that he's cut his hair
Bring him back sale him on again; that would be the regimes way would it not. 2 transfer fees for the price of one. Seriously there is a player in there
Comments on here about him being a playmaker and a great player crack me up. He was a good shield in front of the defence. Nothing more. He couldn't pass the ball forward, play an assist or score goals. The killer though is his lack of pace. I still can't quite believe anybody voted for him in POTY. Cousins was streets ahead in ability and played for the whole season.
This is revisionist bollocks tbh - he was absolute class and there's a reason he won CL MOTM in just about half the games he started. He tackled, distributed, headed, passed forwards - basically, gave us presence and tempo that had been lacking. Cousins just runs everywhere and couldn't control a game if it froze to a standstill around him.
It's funny that you've, quite rightly, picked up on the revisionist hyperbole about Poyet and then added some yourself about Cousins. They were both good for us, neither are world beaters. Poyet wasn't a sideways passing no mark and Cousins didn't just run about. Cousins had some games where he was absolutely fantastic, a couple of games against Nottingham Forest in particular stand out when he ran the show. They're both young men, both have the chance to either kick on or drop down the leagues. The only major difference so far between them is Cousins has only ever shown a top attitude, whereas Poyet has made some poor decisions and has a lot more rebuilding to do.
Given Diarra is now history, I'd have him back at a L1 salary.
Exactly this, now Diarra has left signing Poyet would be a good piece of business so long as he came in and worked hard, which I am sure Slade would make sure he did.
I can't remember which game it was, Brentford or Fulham maybe, where Cousins got the armband and looked a hell of a player, like he'd moved on a level or grown up a bit. I think he was developing all the time, and we took it for granted that he was a midfield stalwart (he's 22!).
I kinda feel he is an average player working very, very hard to be better, whereas Poyet looked like a talent that could go further if he applied himself. Maybe it's about opportunity - Poyet had plenty given his surname. Maybe Cousins had to work harder because of that.
Given Diarra is now history, I'd have him back at a L1 salary.
Exactly this, now Diarra has left signing Poyet would be a good piece of business so long as he came in and worked hard, which I am sure Slade would make sure he did.
Only issue is that he was here last year and we don't know what sort of impression he gave the senior players like Jackson and Solly as well as the coaches who are still here.
If his attitude was wrong they might warn Slade off.
Would be a shame as there WAS clearly a real talent there but he's damaged goods now having not really done it at MK Dons, Hudds (under Powell) or here 2nd time around.
For Diego Poyet, see John Bostock who left Palace too early(career wise)
Not sure if it is a problem between the ears but Poyet was the player who got the ball from the back and would carry and distribute cleanly to the forwards or wingers or attacking full backs. He did this well the first time around at CAFC and won the POTY because of his consistency.
I can't believe Gus can't help with want ever issues have happened in the last 2 years, whether lack of confidence or any off the field influences.
I'd take Poyet back in a heartbeat. Should be able to run a game in this league. Was poor last season but can't forget how good he was first time round.
No way!
Wouldn't sign a contract with us, thought the grass was greener elsewhere, left us and we got peanuts for him!
Came back last year and was shite, why on earth would we want him or need him?
Yeah I mean why would want to sign on a free our 13/14 championship player of the year winner in his first debut season at the age of 19??
No denying he was a great player in that season, but he should have stayed with us and learnt his trade.
Instead of that he went for the bright lights of West Ham faded into mediocrity, got loaned out several times and in the end couldn't even get in MK Dons first team!
He came to us last year was awful and was basically another total waste of money as he didn't play in the end.
So now you want him back, even on a free, once again to waste more of our wage budget!
Rather have Crofts all day long!
What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?
This. So very much.
If someone did well why on earth would you not want them back? No one is asking for crap players to return, just the good ones.
I'd take Poyet back in a heartbeat. Should be able to run a game in this league. Was poor last season but can't forget how good he was first time round.
No way!
Wouldn't sign a contract with us, thought the grass was greener elsewhere, left us and we got peanuts for him!
Came back last year and was shite, why on earth would we want him or need him?
Yeah I mean why would want to sign on a free our 13/14 championship player of the year winner in his first debut season at the age of 19??
No denying he was a great player in that season, but he should have stayed with us and learnt his trade.
Instead of that he went for the bright lights of West Ham faded into mediocrity, got loaned out several times and in the end couldn't even get in MK Dons first team!
He came to us last year was awful and was basically another total waste of money as he didn't play in the end.
So now you want him back, even on a free, once again to waste more of our wage budget!
Rather have Crofts all day long!
What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?
This. So very much.
If someone did well why on earth would you not want them back? No one is asking for crap players to return, just the good ones.
He already has returned. And was desperately disappointing, that's the issue.
I'd take Poyet back in a heartbeat. Should be able to run a game in this league. Was poor last season but can't forget how good he was first time round.
No way!
Wouldn't sign a contract with us, thought the grass was greener elsewhere, left us and we got peanuts for him!
Came back last year and was shite, why on earth would we want him or need him?
Yeah I mean why would want to sign on a free our 13/14 championship player of the year winner in his first debut season at the age of 19??
No denying he was a great player in that season, but he should have stayed with us and learnt his trade.
Instead of that he went for the bright lights of West Ham faded into mediocrity, got loaned out several times and in the end couldn't even get in MK Dons first team!
He came to us last year was awful and was basically another total waste of money as he didn't play in the end.
So now you want him back, even on a free, once again to waste more of our wage budget!
Rather have Crofts all day long!
What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?
This. So very much.
If someone did well why on earth would you not want them back? No one is asking for crap players to return, just the good ones.
He already has returned. And was desperately disappointing, that's the issue.
I was referring to this sentence K&F: "What is it with CL and wanting ex players back all the time?".
I suspect when he came back on loan the club was in such a state it was hard to perform, we also don't know if Riga wanted to play him.
I would think he would be ideal now.
At the time most people would have though the presence of Riga would have been a benefit for him, seeing that his breakthrough was under Riga (and Fraeye!)
The likes of Tex, Motta and Fanni all played well under Riga, indeed Harriott did ok when he came back
All the same Prague for mk and Huddersfield When he left us be sure he believed he was better than playing for us. Ending up at two teams we had beaten and are Imo better than irrelevant of current league status he couldn't handle it
Imo he was a great prospect played well calm on the ball but gave it away cheaply and in dangerous positions he was no shelvey, solly gomez, cousins if we are honest,
He was a cracking player for us when he came in he showed a prowess on the ball that I genuinely hadn't seen since shelvey when in possession, BUT he would be more prone to looking for the worldy, making sure his hair bounced ala keegan and lapsed in concentration Atleast once or twice a half, which I had no issue with due to it being part and parcel of watching him grow and due to his age,
Like all confident young men didn't care about that and just kept on plugging away and rightly won poty
However his ego is damaged his confidence knocked and now looks as much of a prospect as tamer tuna
Seems Poyet had a move to Argentina sorted but it fell through due to local rules.
Can't upload Twitter but from his account he says he was going to join San Lorenzo (which is considered to be a top five club in Argentina.)
Their season started on 26 August which was around the time Wet Spam terminated his contract.
Edited to add: I wonder what the "rules there are"? Were local football rules regarding the number of foreign players or issues getting a work permit the problem?
Seems Poyet had a move to Argentina sorted but it fell through due to local rules.
Can't upload Twitter but from his account he says he was going to join San Lorenzo (which is considered to be a top five club in Argentina.)
Their season started on 26 August which was around the time Wet Spam terminated his contract.
Edited to add: I wonder what the "rules there are"? Were local football rules regarding the number of foreign players or issues getting a work permit the problem?
Nice one for posting this FA, it was me who wrote that piece. Been in Argentina for about a year across two trips and I got drawn to San Lorenzo because of the similarities between their struggle and ours with The Valley. Would have been great and weird in equal measure to see an ex-Addick playing for my team here.
He will end up getting a gig at lower level club (not us). He probably needs to start again and work his way up. Shame, because when he first broke in to the first team at Charlton he looked quality. Greed got the better of him.
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Left us flying high on confidence, player of the year, settled and a very bright future. To being a sad sorry sight.
I don't want him back because it is not down to us to pick him up so he can then move on again to a bigger club (shown his character/thinking). But i genuinely do hope he finds his flow again, because as a football fan who is proud of our academy, I would want to know he is more than a one hit wonder.
I kinda feel he is an average player working very, very hard to be better, whereas Poyet looked like a talent that could go further if he applied himself. Maybe it's about opportunity - Poyet had plenty given his surname. Maybe Cousins had to work harder because of that.
If his attitude was wrong they might warn Slade off.
Would be a shame as there WAS clearly a real talent there but he's damaged goods now having not really done it at MK Dons, Hudds (under Powell) or here 2nd time around.
Not sure if it is a problem between the ears but Poyet was the player who got the ball from the back and would carry and distribute cleanly to the forwards or wingers or attacking full backs. He did this well the first time around at CAFC and won the POTY because of his consistency.
I can't believe Gus can't help with want ever issues have happened in the last 2 years, whether lack of confidence or any off the field influences.
I would think he would be ideal now.
The likes of Tex, Motta and Fanni all played well under Riga, indeed Harriott did ok when he came back
When he left us be sure he believed he was better than playing for us. Ending up at two teams we had beaten and are Imo better than irrelevant of current league status he couldn't handle it
Imo he was a great prospect played well calm on the ball but gave it away cheaply and in dangerous positions he was no shelvey, solly gomez, cousins if we are honest,
He was a cracking player for us when he came in he showed a prowess on the ball that I genuinely hadn't seen since shelvey when in possession, BUT he would be more prone to looking for the worldy, making sure his hair bounced ala keegan and lapsed in concentration Atleast once or twice a half, which I had no issue with due to it being part and parcel of watching him grow and due to his age,
Like all confident young men didn't care about that and just kept on plugging away and rightly won poty
However his ego is damaged his confidence knocked and now looks as much of a prospect as tamer tuna
Can't upload Twitter but from his account he says he was going to join San Lorenzo (which is considered to be a top five club in Argentina.)
Their season started on 26 August which was around the time Wet Spam terminated his contract.
Edited to add: I wonder what the "rules there are"? Were local football rules regarding the number of foreign players or issues getting a work permit the problem?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/san-lorenzo-forced-out-their-own-back-yard-now-being-carried-home-their-fans
Incidentally some real diamonds on here chipped in a few bob to support San Lorenzo's fan campaign. It's a great story. http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/68850/new-article-back-to-the-valley-south-america-style-support-san-lorenzo-fans
In other words, he ain't coming back. Move on.
Derby. Taking an interest in Diego Poyet. Free agent.