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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Southampton - Saturday 22nd November 2025 - 12:30pm Kick-Of

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,285
    Southbank said:
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    One for the stattos, but have we ever been 0-4 at home after 22 minutes. I certainly cannot remember that.
    Not at home but I think we were 4 down after 20 odd minutes at Hull back in 2016 when we went onto lose 6-0, but yup, can’t recall anything like this.  The worse thing is this during a good period in supporting the team.  I could’ve accepted this more easily had it been the depths of Gilbey, Gunter, Adkins and Garner etc. 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 438
    I hope Port Vale don't get relegated. I have never visited their ground.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,967
    What I want to know is how many cats (metaphorical of course) have we kicked tonight.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,980
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    Leeds was 1-6
    Rotherham 1-5 did Ronnie Moore get 4 ?
    Think Leeds were bottom as well. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 262
    sm said:
    What I want to know is how many cats (metaphorical of course) have we kicked tonight.
    Is this a rumour we are signing Kurt zouma?😬
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,281
    cabbles said:
    Southbank said:
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    One for the stattos, but have we ever been 0-4 at home after 22 minutes. I certainly cannot remember that.
    Not at home but I think we were 4 down after 20 odd minutes at Hull back in 2016 when we went onto lose 6-0, but yup, can’t recall anything like this.  The worse thing is this during a good period in supporting the team.  I could’ve accepted this more easily had it been the depths of Gilbey, Gunter, Adkins and Garner etc. 
    hull scored their 4th in the 39th minute of that game when a hull player completed his hatrick
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,281
    4 goals in an 8 minute spell today,  there’s no way we can have let that many in in such a short space of time before
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,879
    MrOneLung said:
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    Leeds was 1-6
    Rotherham 1-5 did Ronnie Moore get 4 ?
    Think Leeds were bottom as well. 
    Really ? That was a good side packed full of internationals. You could be right if it was early in the season.  
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,172
    edited 10:02PM
    Sure I heard the Saints fans singing "Your getting sacked in the morning"...now that would be a turn up, Nathan isn't bomb proof but pretty much lately, sure he will turn it around Tuesday...🤞
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,742
    Pwr 

    Imagine that will be the last of Apter. Think NJ has to shoulder some blame. The warning signs were there to be seen after Kaminski made that save before the first goal, waiting until 4 down was honestly shocking. Then changed to back 4 and it changed the dynamic in terms of being harder to play through and give us shape but damage was ready done. He said they want to strengthen 2 positions but CB has to be one. 

    Ramsay and L Jones argued alot today and I noticed Jones constantly telling Ramsay to pick players running past Jones..not sure why but it left huge gaps. 

    Certainly a harsh lesson but hopefully we dont let our heads go down. The teams need a shape change and different starters to fill it though..we have wingers for example...play them as wingers. I'd drop Doc for Anderson or Knibbs..someone with energy. 

    Lastly, I keep saying it but we are too respectful of teams...get them dark arts in ASAP. Hit players hard when challenging aswell...show we have some bollocks at least.

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,563
    Also on what planet are some defenders still getting 6+ on the player marks thread after conceding 5 goals? 
  • I don’t understand why some posters are digging out individual players. 

    Collectively, every one of those on the pitch when we went 5-0 down, plus Nathan, need to take responsibility for today’s result but individually no single player was to blame. Basically, we were ‘out-Nathaned’, which is ironic given the Southampton fans were very vociferous with their mocking of his tactics. They pressed us but we didn’t counter it and made it simple for them by playing an almost static front two because we couldn’t get the ball to them. That gave them an advantage in the press that took out our midfield and opened up the gaps in our defence. Let it happen once and we should have reorganised straight away to make sure it doesn’t happen again. We didn’t and conceded 4 more goals, hence why it’s a collective fuck up, not an individual’s fault. How they bounce back and as long as they can and do is what counts now because this game is history.

    People should also remember, however, those same individuals have collectively got us to where we stand in the table tonight, 2 points off a playoff place. They can’t be that bad as some posters seem to think.



  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,342
    Sword65pf said:
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    Leeds was 1-6
    Rotherham 1-5 did Ronnie Moore get 4 ?
    Viduka and Kewell were unplayable that day.
    Was Ginola in that Leeds side as well because I remember us getting thrashed with him in the oppo?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,614
    Also on what planet are some defenders still getting 6+ on the player marks thread after conceding 5 goals? 
    On the whole the same people are giving TC 2 or 3. Mind boggling. 
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,754
    Southbank said:
    Sword65pf said:
    holyjo said:
    From the NU we appeared obviously exposed so very quickly . The wing backs looked vulnerable and we were jittery and uncharacteristically slow. Their goals looked so inevitable as well. 

    Not sure I can remember many games quite like that in the last 40 years. And I’ve seen some dross. It was surreal and paradoxically totally expected as it unfolded 
    CAFC 0-6 Leeds Viduka Smith and others?
    CAFC0-4 Oxford Twine scoring for fun
    must be others as well
    Leeds was 1-6
    Rotherham 1-5 did Ronnie Moore get 4 ?
    Viduka and Kewell were unplayable that day.
    Was Ginola in that Leeds side as well because I remember us getting thrashed with him in the oppo?
    Alan Smith seemed to be everywhere in that match .We could do with a midfielder with that kind of tenacity and drive..