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Climate Emergency
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It's sheer madness, I really fear for what this constant kicking the can down the road will have on the children of today. The cost of mitigating the effects of climate change will only grow, as the weather becomes more extreme due to the rise in global temperature.swords_alive said:An impending agreement to make shipping the first industry sector with net zero targets has come under pressure from the US, Saudi and Russia and been deferred in London today. Reported basis of arguments, as ever, "cost to consumers". I fear we will be in a toxic soup before long and still be told it's costs and profits that come first.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vnl0yxg53o
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Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.3 -
It's the same in Kent and East Sussex, if we don't get a lot of rain this winter and next spring, we are going to be in big trouble next Summer. The reservoirs are running dry and the aquifers are very depleted. The hosepipe ban we still have here in Kent is unlikely to be lifted any time soon.Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way. The big fossil fuel industries have got their men in power to promote their agenda. It's time for everyone to stop burying their heads in the sand and start to realise the enormity of the problem that faces the planet. The children of today face a very bleak future if we carry on as we are.3 -
Very low levels recorded at Rutland Reservoir too, which made the news here if not nationally. The opening addresses at COP30 included a speech from a Chinese representative. I saw it, and yet they aren't attending🤔 I'm confused. They remain committed to meeting their agreed renewable targets though, unlike our friends from across the pond.ME14addick said:
It's the same in Kent and East Sussex, if we don't get a lot of rain this winter and next spring, we are going to be in big trouble next Summer. The reservoirs are running dry and the aquifers are very depleted. The hosepipe ban we still have here in Kent is unlikely to be lifted any time soon.Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way. The big fossil fuel industries have got their men in power to promote their agenda. It's time for everyone to stop burying their heads in the sand and start to realise the enormity of the problem that faces the planet. The children of today face a very bleak future if we carry on as we are.
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Reading this article today, the chickens may be coming home to roost sooner than our 'friend' across the pond thinks.swordfish said:
Very low levels recorded at Rutland Reservoir too, which made the news here if not nationally. The opening addresses at COP30 included a speech from a Chinese representative. I saw it, and yet they aren't attending🤔 I'm confused. They remain committed to meeting their agreed renewable targets though, unlike our friends from across the pond.ME14addick said:
It's the same in Kent and East Sussex, if we don't get a lot of rain this winter and next spring, we are going to be in big trouble next Summer. The reservoirs are running dry and the aquifers are very depleted. The hosepipe ban we still have here in Kent is unlikely to be lifted any time soon.Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way. The big fossil fuel industries have got their men in power to promote their agenda. It's time for everyone to stop burying their heads in the sand and start to realise the enormity of the problem that faces the planet. The children of today face a very bleak future if we carry on as we are.
https://news.sky.com/story/why-us-may-soon-have-a-real-energy-emergency-13459344
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We could also act quickly on husbanding our resources better.0
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I've got no real skin in this game. I don't have kids, never wanted them. I'm in my fifties, so before the really bad effects hit I'll either be dead or past caring. But fucking hell, how can people be so blind to the danger this coming catastrophe represents? It's like standing your children in the middle of the fucking motorway while trucks bear down on them, and saying 'ah, it'll be alright'10
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It's that, but while people are also coming up to you warning you that your children are about to get flattened and handing you statistical information on the effects of moving cars on human bodies you're rolling your eyes at them, saying car injuries are a fiction and citing blokes dressed as wizards who claim there's no such thing as a car as your justification.Leroy Ambrose said:I've got no real skin in this game. I don't have kids, never wanted them. I'm in my fifties, so before the really bad effects hit I'll either be dead or past caring. But fucking hell, how can people be so blind to the danger this coming catastrophe represents? It's like standing your children in the middle of the fucking motorway while trucks bear down on them, and saying 'ah, it'll be alright'3 -
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Here's what China "aren't" doing. Someone said words to the effect that they really don't like wind and won't have it recently, but he's full of hot air to put it politely. Thank goodness they do. I wonder how much worse would it be if they weren't taking transitioning away from fossil fuels seriously.
https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/china-energy-transition-review-2025/
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Australians are being given three hours' worth of FREE electricity a day. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/03/australians-to-get-at-least-three-hours-a-day-of-free-solar-power-even-if-they-dont-have-solar-panels
Now, I am sure that there are some on the net zero denial side of the debate that will try to frame this as A BAD THING. But, really, what's not to like about having free power? Imagine being able to have your car running costs reduced to zero. Or being able to wash your dishes, do all your laundry (washing and drying), cook, heat (or cool) your home, every day for nothing. That's got to be transformational in terms of the cost of living.
It's a brilliant plan. And it can be replicated in other countries - even those with fewer hours of sunshine than Australia. It could be replicated with other forms of renewable, for example wind and tide power.8 -
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/06/triple-whammy-of-hottest-ever-years-risks-irreversible-damage-says-un?fbclid=IwY2xjawN8HkdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBhUjNwNGpnOG9nU3F2eHFUc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHnagvjNVVsjo2K3wdf8UU-YjDQqVm4C4PQot8osxrM98qmCLHGGkZ0M7Pvvq_aem_W13r-JM6D0EM-M3Nz4BR2A&brid=X6DBSko_KuZyqRvzSToI2g
Yet the climate change deniers will still say more CO2 means more 'food' for trees and I survived the summer of 1976.2 -
Don't worry, someone will be along soon with their Talking PointChizz said:Australians are being given three hours' worth of FREE electricity a day. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/03/australians-to-get-at-least-three-hours-a-day-of-free-solar-power-even-if-they-dont-have-solar-panels
Now, I am sure that there are some on the net zero denial side of the debate that will try to frame this as A BAD THING. But, really, what's not to like about having free power? Imagine being able to have your car running costs reduced to zero. Or being able to wash your dishes, do all your laundry (washing and drying), cook, heat (or cool) your home, every day for nothing. That's got to be transformational in terms of the cost of living.
It's a brilliant plan. And it can be replicated in other countries - even those with fewer hours of sunshine than Australia. It could be replicated with other forms of renewable, for example wind and tide power.
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Octopus are doing something similar. We have signed up for their free electricity scheme although it’s finished until next summer. You get notified a day in advance that a specified hour or hours will be free. We also get quarter-priced electricity when we are recharging our car.Chizz said:Australians are being given three hours' worth of FREE electricity a day. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/03/australians-to-get-at-least-three-hours-a-day-of-free-solar-power-even-if-they-dont-have-solar-panels
Now, I am sure that there are some on the net zero denial side of the debate that will try to frame this as A BAD THING. But, really, what's not to like about having free power? Imagine being able to have your car running costs reduced to zero. Or being able to wash your dishes, do all your laundry (washing and drying), cook, heat (or cool) your home, every day for nothing. That's got to be transformational in terms of the cost of living.
It's a brilliant plan. And it can be replicated in other countries - even those with fewer hours of sunshine than Australia. It could be replicated with other forms of renewable, for example wind and tide power.1 -
That's great. But a 75% discount for an unspecified hour a day, from next summer is a long, long way from a regular, three-hour, daily slot, mandated by the government.Hex said:
Octopus are doing something similar. We have signed up for their free electricity scheme although it’s finished until next summer. You get notified a day in advance that a specified hour or hours will be free. We also get quarter-priced electricity when we are recharging our car.Chizz said:Australians are being given three hours' worth of FREE electricity a day. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/03/australians-to-get-at-least-three-hours-a-day-of-free-solar-power-even-if-they-dont-have-solar-panels
Now, I am sure that there are some on the net zero denial side of the debate that will try to frame this as A BAD THING. But, really, what's not to like about having free power? Imagine being able to have your car running costs reduced to zero. Or being able to wash your dishes, do all your laundry (washing and drying), cook, heat (or cool) your home, every day for nothing. That's got to be transformational in terms of the cost of living.
It's a brilliant plan. And it can be replicated in other countries - even those with fewer hours of sunshine than Australia. It could be replicated with other forms of renewable, for example wind and tide power.
Well done to Octopus for doing something. But the government should be using its muscular, progressive heft to make them go much, much further.1 -
I think I’ve confused you. I have mentioned 2 schemes; the free electricity which uses spare green power and realistically at present is most likely in the summer given our latitude, and the car recharge, 75% off, tariff which is most likely to be overnight BUT often has slots during the day. You only get notified of the slots, which can change anytime, when you plug the car in for charging. It’s not easy to plan your life around either scheme, but it’s a start.Chizz said:
That's great. But a 75% discount for an unspecified hour a day, from next summer is a long, long way from a regular, three-hour, daily slot, mandated by the government.Hex said:
Octopus are doing something similar. We have signed up for their free electricity scheme although it’s finished until next summer. You get notified a day in advance that a specified hour or hours will be free. We also get quarter-priced electricity when we are recharging our car.Chizz said:Australians are being given three hours' worth of FREE electricity a day. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/03/australians-to-get-at-least-three-hours-a-day-of-free-solar-power-even-if-they-dont-have-solar-panels
Now, I am sure that there are some on the net zero denial side of the debate that will try to frame this as A BAD THING. But, really, what's not to like about having free power? Imagine being able to have your car running costs reduced to zero. Or being able to wash your dishes, do all your laundry (washing and drying), cook, heat (or cool) your home, every day for nothing. That's got to be transformational in terms of the cost of living.
It's a brilliant plan. And it can be replicated in other countries - even those with fewer hours of sunshine than Australia. It could be replicated with other forms of renewable, for example wind and tide power.
Well done to Octopus for doing something. But the government should be using its muscular, progressive heft to make them go much, much further.
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Because basically countries are just following Americas money and unfortunately the custodian of that money is a complete moronLeroy Ambrose said:I've got no real skin in this game. I don't have kids, never wanted them. I'm in my fifties, so before the really bad effects hit I'll either be dead or past caring. But fucking hell, how can people be so blind to the danger this coming catastrophe represents? It's like standing your children in the middle of the fucking motorway while trucks bear down on them, and saying 'ah, it'll be alright'2 -
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.0 -
British Gasalso give free electricty for a few hours on Sundays if you sign to certain accounts.0
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Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.0 -
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.7 -
Of course I agree that China is moving forward with green, renewable energy, but at the same time they are still a big producer of CO2. China also suffers greatly from the effects of climate change. A search on Co-Pilot found the following from the question, which countries are the biggest emitters of CO2:cantersaddick said:
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.China dominates global emissions, producing nearly one-third of all CO₂. Its reliance on coal and rapid industrialization are the main drivers.
The United States, while second overall, has much higher emissions per capita than China, reflecting lifestyle and transport patterns.
India’s emissions are rising quickly, though per capita they remain lower than developed countries.
Russia, Japan, and Iran remain significant contributors due to fossil fuel dependence.
Oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia and Canada have disproportionately high emissions compared to their population size.
Europe’s largest emitter is Germany, but its share is shrinking thanks to renewable energy adoption.
I would still have liked the biggest polluters to have had a seat at the COP table. The most worrying of all though is the action/inaction of the United States and the amount if mis/disinformation out there.
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I don't disagree they're still a major polluter but what i was trying to demonstrate is the direction of travel is polar opposite to that of the US since the orange toddler took over so lumping then in together is probably unfair.ME14addick said:
Of course I agree that China is moving forward with green, renewable energy, but at the same time they are still a big producer of CO2. China also suffers greatly from the effects of climate change. A search on Co-Pilot found the following from the question, which countries are the biggest emitters of CO2:cantersaddick said:
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.China dominates global emissions, producing nearly one-third of all CO₂. Its reliance on coal and rapid industrialization are the main drivers.
The United States, while second overall, has much higher emissions per capita than China, reflecting lifestyle and transport patterns.
India’s emissions are rising quickly, though per capita they remain lower than developed countries.
Russia, Japan, and Iran remain significant contributors due to fossil fuel dependence.
Oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia and Canada have disproportionately high emissions compared to their population size.
Europe’s largest emitter is Germany, but its share is shrinking thanks to renewable energy adoption.
I would still have liked the biggest polluters to have had a seat at the COP table. The most worrying of all though is the action/inaction of the United States and the amount if mis/disinformation out there.
The "But china" narrative that has been coming out of western media for decades whenever the climate discussed is at best imperialist propaganda. It's something we should strongly push back on.2 -
I agree China is doing a lot and the fact that they do still use coal to generate power, is not a reason for others to stop moving towards net zero. Any country that doesn't shift towards renewable, sustainable forms of energy is going to be left far behind, the USA in particular. The UK should be moving towards net zero as quickly as possible, so that we are no longer at the mercy of the big oil and gas companies. Those that want to stop our move towards net zero are doing the work of the fossil fuel industry.cantersaddick said:
I don't disagree they're still a major polluter but what i was trying to demonstrate is the direction of travel is polar opposite to that of the US since the orange toddler took over so lumping then in together is probably unfair.ME14addick said:
Of course I agree that China is moving forward with green, renewable energy, but at the same time they are still a big producer of CO2. China also suffers greatly from the effects of climate change. A search on Co-Pilot found the following from the question, which countries are the biggest emitters of CO2:cantersaddick said:
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.China dominates global emissions, producing nearly one-third of all CO₂. Its reliance on coal and rapid industrialization are the main drivers.
The United States, while second overall, has much higher emissions per capita than China, reflecting lifestyle and transport patterns.
India’s emissions are rising quickly, though per capita they remain lower than developed countries.
Russia, Japan, and Iran remain significant contributors due to fossil fuel dependence.
Oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia and Canada have disproportionately high emissions compared to their population size.
Europe’s largest emitter is Germany, but its share is shrinking thanks to renewable energy adoption.
I would still have liked the biggest polluters to have had a seat at the COP table. The most worrying of all though is the action/inaction of the United States and the amount if mis/disinformation out there.
The "But china" narrative that has been coming out of western media for decades whenever the climate discussed is at best imperialist propaganda. It's something we should strongly push back on.2 -
All this talk is about what 'the UK', 'China', i.e governments are doing. But there are things individuals can do to help, and some of the trends in the rich and middle-income world (more cruises, flights, data usage, crypto) are not helping. Ultimately, do enough people really care enough?0
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Those seats will be dominated by lobbyists from the oil and gas companies, COP is basically a joke at this point, look at where it’s being hosted fgs, hardly setting a good example.ME14addick said:cantersaddick said:
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.I would still have liked the biggest polluters to have had a seat at the COP table. The most worrying of all though is the action/inaction of the United States and the amount if mis/disinformation out there.
To lump China, one of the modest proactive green countries on the plant with America is just insanity.0 -
If the leaders of countries like China and the USA attended COP, perhaps it would not be a joke. In that respect they can be lumped together.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Those seats will be dominated by lobbyists from the oil and gas companies, COP is basically a joke at this point, look at where it’s being hosted fgs, hardly setting a good example.ME14addick said:cantersaddick said:
I think he was maybe challenging the idea of China being a big polluter. They are making massive strides in renewables and green tech. Their grid is likely to be decarbonised by end of 2027 before any European country. They have developed the first solid state batteries which will genuinely revolutionise renewable energy. They have made massive strides with EV's - in cities I think it's half of all vehicles on the road are EV (not half of new vehicles sold). They're even developing mad new technology like solar on satellites and wirelessly beaming the energy down to earth!ME14addick said:
Unless you've heard differently, I believe the leaders of those countries are not attending.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Ignorance must really be bliss.ME14addick said:Stig said:Last year it was stated that COP wasn't fit for purpose. This year it seems worse as there's less consensus about the need for collective action and more 'drill baby, drill'. Meanwhile, here in Essex (and I suspect many other places in the UK) we're running low on water in November!
Hanningfield Reservoir, Thursday 8th November.
With big polluters like the USA, China & India refusing to attend COP 30, the world is in a very bad way.
I'm not gonna pretend they don't have issues, there are still a lot of factories using coal but that number is falling every day due to good government policy. And its pretty hard to attribute those emissions to China when the factories are only there to serve the excessive consumerism of the west.I would still have liked the biggest polluters to have had a seat at the COP table. The most worrying of all though is the action/inaction of the United States and the amount if mis/disinformation out there.
To lump China, one of the modest proactive green countries on the plant with America is just insanity.0 -
No. Not enough will forgo lifestyle choices in order to stave off the climate crisis. The public gets what the public wants, and governments the world over serve the needs of those who elect them. Consumerism drives emissions of CO2.redlanered said:All this talk is about what 'the UK', 'China', i.e governments are doing. But there are things individuals can do to help, and some of the trends in the rich and middle-income world (more cruises, flights, data usage, crypto) are not helping. Ultimately, do enough people really care enough?
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When we have social media awash with mis/disinformation, and far too many calling man made climate change a scam, there will always be people using that as a reason not to do anything. They will wish they had decided to care enough when they themselves are impacted.redlanered said:All this talk is about what 'the UK', 'China', i.e governments are doing. But there are things individuals can do to help, and some of the trends in the rich and middle-income world (more cruises, flights, data usage, crypto) are not helping. Ultimately, do enough people really care enough?0
