3-2 home win 1977, 2-0 away win the following year, 1-0 Upton Park, 2-0 home and away in Bowyer's season. Don't mind losing to them as long as we match their commitment sadly that's been lacking too many times. Apart from the wins their have been high points in defeat, Cyril Davies brilliant goal to give us a short lived 1-0 lead at the Den, Hendry's winner, Ray Crawford's brilliant equaliser at the Den and Mike Kennings two rockets in a 2-2 home draw both in 1969 . Worst defeats 2-0 1971, Barry Endean and Bobby Hunt up front. would still be playing now and wouldn't have scored and the infamous 4-0 defeat at the Den, with Christian Daily and Miguel Llera performing like two clowns.
To cheer us up a bit,let's remember when we have beaten the Spanners.I've seen 5 wins.
For my first Charlton V Millwall game I saw the 3-2 in 76, I then saw us win 2-0 at the Old Toolbox in 78.
Then I think it is a wait until John Hendry in 92 and an Anglo Italian Cup win at the Old Toolbox the following season..
I missed Kim Grant in the snow, but was there to see the mighty Leaburn help us complete the double over them with a 2-0 win which helped send them down.
Although sparsely spread out we have not played them regularly during my years as an Addick and remarkably given our appalling record Saturday was their first win at the Valley since the 1970's.
Only the once, the 2-0 Kim Grant game at spannerville.
We went for a booze in Tropics by South Bermondsey station. I arranged this with a customer of mine, he was a spanner and as good as gold, but was a bit tasty. He met us in the boozer for a chat and said best not for us to come over and to certainly not say that we were Charlton .
We knew the score so kept our heads down and had a couple more making sure we were to do the off quite lively if his mates trundled over!
Was this match a midweek match?
Does anyone know the date of that match?
I was definitely there, and remember my wife being pregnant with our eldest, i couldn't believe she allowed me to go!
The footballing gods have always conspired against me. 50 years last month I've been going and I've always missed a win for us. This week I'm a few days away so its looking good for those that can make it.
To put a different spin on it, I’ve never seen Charlton beat another team on more different grounds than Millwall – The Valley, Upton Park, The Den and The New Den. I’ve seen us beat other teams at four different grounds, but never five. Shame we didn’t manage it at Selhurst.
Only the once, the 2-0 Kim Grant game at spannerville.
We went for a booze in Tropics by South Bermondsey station. I arranged this with a customer of mine, he was a spanner and as good as gold, but was a bit tasty. He met us in the boozer for a chat and said best not for us to come over and to certainly not say that we were Charlton .
We knew the score so kept our heads down and had a couple more making sure we were to do the off quite lively if his mates trundled over!
Was this match a midweek match?
Does anyone know the date of that match?
I was definitely there, and remember my wife being pregnant with our eldest, i couldn't believe she allowed me to go!
Tuesday 5th December 1995. I was there and the 2-0 home win a few months later.
Also saw the 1-0 home wins in the Kent Cup and at Upton Park.
Kent Cup saw horrendous violence in the Covered End. Only a couple of thousand there I think. I was one very frightened 14 year old. The first time I'd seen the Covered End taken.
I was at the Bowyer / Leaburn game, the snow match and the Anglo-Italian win so not an awful record, considering. Didn't go to any at Selhurst or Upton Park. Think I've only seen two or three defeats in person.
My low points were the Old Den, old Div 1, 2-0 up to 2-2 (gutted, loads of Charlton packed into the corner, and was too young to know it is the way of things in this fixture), the 4-0 hammering (when all I remember is Llera being useless and it taking forever to get away), the Valley 4-4, and the two more recent Valley games we should have won. The covid season games were horrible but I didn't attend the away game. Can't recall much else in the post prem years.
I do remember a 0-0 at the Den when it all kicked off at out end after (pyros?), but my brother and I had left early and went back into the ground to watchfrom the Millwall end - see what we did there. Also, I think it was the first game following our return to the Valley, we were in the Covered End and Millwall fans came in at the end of the game via the gates and started fighting - more violent and ultimately less successful than the black ops tactics employed by my brother and me.
The snow game was brilliant. Remember a Millwall fan getting upset with a Charlton fan at South Bermondsey station and trying to start a fight. Everyone slipping around on the snow covered platform between two rail lines.
Have in my memory the Anglo Italian win was at the Old Den, but I must be confusing things.
Only the once, the 2-0 Kim Grant game at spannerville.
We went for a booze in Tropics by South Bermondsey station. I arranged this with a customer of mine, he was a spanner and as good as gold, but was a bit tasty. He met us in the boozer for a chat and said best not for us to come over and to certainly not say that we were Charlton .
We knew the score so kept our heads down and had a couple more making sure we were to do the off quite lively if his mates trundled over!
Was this match a midweek match?
Does anyone know the date of that match?
I was definitely there, and remember my wife being pregnant with our eldest, i couldn't believe she allowed me to go!
I was at the Bowyer / Leaburn game, the snow match and the Anglo-Italian win so not an awful record, considering. Didn't go to any at Selhurst or Upton Park. Think I've only seen two or three defeats in person.
My low points were the Old Den, old Div 1, 2-0 up to 2-2 (gutted, loads of Charlton packed into the corner, and was too young to know it is the way of things in this fixture), the 4-0 hammering (when all I remember is Llera being useless and it taking forever to get away), the Valley 4-4, and the two more recent Valley games we should have won. The covid season games were horrible but I didn't attend the away game. Can't recall much else in the post prem years.
I do remember a 0-0 at the Den when it all kicked off at out end after (pyros?), but my brother and I had left early and went back into the ground to watchfrom the Millwall end - see what we did there. Also, I think it was the first game following our return to the Valley, we were in the Covered End and Millwall fans came in at the end of the game via the gates and started fighting - more violent and ultimately less successful than the black ops tactics employed by my brother and me.
The snow game was brilliant. Remember a Millwall fan getting upset with a Charlton fan at South Bermondsey station and trying to start a fight. Everyone slipping around on the snow covered platform between two rail lines.
Have in my memory the Anglo Italian win was at the Old Den, but I must be confusing things.
I think that's correct.
We played 2 Anglo Italian games at Millwall, the win was at the Old Den in September 1992, whereas the next season we played them at the New Den, which had just opened, in September 1993, and drew. I didn't go to the first game, but went to the second game to tick the new ground off!
Only the 2-0 bowyer bicycle kick, did leaburn score the second?
I was a nipper, sat in east near the south and their fans were ripping seats out and launching them at us as well as throwing coins. Little did they know i was sitting with other millwall kids 😂. First game i saw 2 choppers in the sky and was an eye opener for a kid 😂
I think we also won once in the 60's,were any posters there in 68?
Yep, me!
January 68. I was 12. Grey damp overcast day.
I had never before seen the ground so full. The big East Terrace, where we normally stood with our Dads, was so packed us lads couldn't see the pitch - so we were allowed to go searching to find terracing where we could see, providing we didn't go down the Covered End .......which had already been taken by Millwall yobs, as my Dad had called them
We ended up standing on the 'chicken run' beside the Grandstand.
Dour evenly matched game, lit up when our 17 year old centre half Paul 'Wally' Went dispossessed the Lion's striker and fed our 19 year old midfielder Alan Campbell, who beat his man and stroked home the winner!
I think we also won once in the 60's,were any posters there in 68?
Yep, me!
January 68. I was 12. Grey damp overcast day.
I had never before seen the ground so full. The big East Terrace, where we normally stood with our Dads, was so packed us lads couldn't see the pitch - so we were allowed to go searching to find terracing where we could see, providing we didn't go down the Covered End .......which had already been taken by Millwall yobs, as my Dad had called them
We ended up standing on the 'chicken run' beside the Grandstand.
Dour evenly matched game, lit up when our 17 year old centre half Paul 'Wally' Went dispossessed the Lion's striker and fed our 19 year old midfielder Alan Campbell, who beat his man and stroked home the winner!
Kent cup 70s - about 3000 gate of which about 500 of them in a mob who systematically attacked any male in red from age 14 up (we know you care really). Went to all the Kent cup games which we won 1-0 If memory serves and not a dull game among them. Saw Grant score in the snow and Bowyer get sent off and the 2 -0 home win. Was convinced I was at a 2-1 mid week away win from the 60s but records prove otherwise.
God, do you you lot actually believe you're own hype? You must read the Sun and believe that too. We eat babies too. (In all my years going I've never seen a child attacked at Millwall, get a grip you drama queen!)
I've only just seen this. Yes, I am slow.
Were you there @MillwallFan ? I was, 1975 and it was impossible to open your mouth as a Charlton fan on any of the terraces without it getting filled in. It was quite an eye opener to a 15yr old kid their with mates.
I saw a bloke that I would estimate as around 40yrs old standing on the South Terrace (Now the Jimmy Seed Stand) shouting out to all that could hear him (and plenty could), that he wanted to take on all Charlton willing to take on the challenge.
I know that others have pulled you up on this more recently, as you still claim never to have seen any problems, just like my Spanner brother-in-law! Please don't dismiss our lived experiences, we have been there, bought the t-shirt and didn't enjoy it.
Jesus, I made this comment over 11 years ago!!
You may have noticed I’ve chilled out a bit since then. I’d like to think so anyway! I’d probably had a booze as well by the looks of it. 🫣
for the record, I’m not saying there’s never been problems. Obviously back in the 70’s and 80’s it was bad. But I do think sometimes things can get over exaggerated. And for me personally, I haven’t seen anything in recent times. I’m not saying there hasn’t been problems, just that I haven’t seen any, in recent times. Nothing major anyway. That’s my lived experience.
My Birthday is 8th December. What a present that was.
Can someone please remind the players the importance of winning this fixture please? I am so fe up of watching us just mentally and physically giving up? It is ridiculous. Been supporting us since 1986. I have only ever seen us win 3 times. Once when we had an on loan players John Hendry who scored the winner at Upton Park? The best one was when we played Millwall in the snow. Millwall were top. We won 2-0? Bowyer and Alex Rae got sent off and we them at home. That same season, unbelievably, Millwall got relegated, and we had to avoid defeat, on the last day of the season. We made the playoffs. I think we played Wolves at home. Millwall played Ipswich away that day. Had Ipswich won we would have missed out on the play offs.
It is so bad, that I have a few Millwall supporters at work, who wern't even born when we last beat them.
(Yes, I know we have hardly played them in the last 20 years but it is so bad, it is an embarrassment.
Kent cup 70s - about 3000 gate of which about 500 of them in a mob who systematically attacked any male in red from age 14 up (we know you care really). Went to all the Kent cup games which we won 1-0 If memory serves and not a dull game among them. Saw Grant score in the snow and Bowyer get sent off and the 2 -0 home win. Was convinced I was at a 2-1 mid week away win from the 60s but records prove otherwise.
God, do you you lot actually believe you're own hype? You must read the Sun and believe that too. We eat babies too. (In all my years going I've never seen a child attacked at Millwall, get a grip you drama queen!)
I've only just seen this. Yes, I am slow.
Were you there @MillwallFan ? I was, 1975 and it was impossible to open your mouth as a Charlton fan on any of the terraces without it getting filled in. It was quite an eye opener to a 15yr old kid their with mates.
I saw a bloke that I would estimate as around 40yrs old standing on the South Terrace (Now the Jimmy Seed Stand) shouting out to all that could hear him (and plenty could), that he wanted to take on all Charlton willing to take on the challenge.
I know that others have pulled you up on this more recently, as you still claim never to have seen any problems, just like my Spanner brother-in-law! Please don't dismiss our lived experiences, we have been there, bought the t-shirt and didn't enjoy it.
Jesus, I made this comment over 11 years ago!!
You may have noticed I’ve chilled out a bit since then. I’d like to think so anyway! I’d probably had a booze as well by the looks of it. 🫣
for the record, I’m not saying there’s never been problems. Obviously back in the 70’s and 80’s it was bad. But I do think sometimes things can get over exaggerated. And for me personally, I haven’t seen anything in recent times. I’m not saying there hasn’t been problems, just that I haven’t seen any, in recent times. Nothing major anyway. That’s my lived experience.
Recent times have certainly improved, no argument.
Sometimes things may well get exaggerated, although the TV cameras at Luton don't lie, and the Millwall Chelsea match i attended in the mid 70s (i think) was absolute carnage. I saw some bloke trying to avoid further attacks standing by a front door with claret all over his face. He appeared to have been stabbed in the eye, although I didn't stop to ask.
Im not saying that you're wrong when you describe your experiences, but you need to try and understand why some fans with long memories have reservations when it comes to your club.
Personally, I find your input thoughtful and a good contributor, much like a couple of other past Spanner contributors. Keep it up, even after we take all three points off you Saturday.
Kent cup 70s - about 3000 gate of which about 500 of them in a mob who systematically attacked any male in red from age 14 up (we know you care really). Went to all the Kent cup games which we won 1-0 If memory serves and not a dull game among them. Saw Grant score in the snow and Bowyer get sent off and the 2 -0 home win. Was convinced I was at a 2-1 mid week away win from the 60s but records prove otherwise.
God, do you you lot actually believe you're own hype? You must read the Sun and believe that too. We eat babies too. (In all my years going I've never seen a child attacked at Millwall, get a grip you drama queen!)
I've only just seen this. Yes, I am slow.
Were you there @MillwallFan ? I was, 1975 and it was impossible to open your mouth as a Charlton fan on any of the terraces without it getting filled in. It was quite an eye opener to a 15yr old kid their with mates.
I saw a bloke that I would estimate as around 40yrs old standing on the South Terrace (Now the Jimmy Seed Stand) shouting out to all that could hear him (and plenty could), that he wanted to take on all Charlton willing to take on the challenge.
I know that others have pulled you up on this more recently, as you still claim never to have seen any problems, just like my Spanner brother-in-law! Please don't dismiss our lived experiences, we have been there, bought the t-shirt and didn't enjoy it.
Jesus, I made this comment over 11 years ago!!
You may have noticed I’ve chilled out a bit since then. I’d like to think so anyway! I’d probably had a booze as well by the looks of it. 🫣
for the record, I’m not saying there’s never been problems. Obviously back in the 70’s and 80’s it was bad. But I do think sometimes things can get over exaggerated. And for me personally, I haven’t seen anything in recent times. I’m not saying there hasn’t been problems, just that I haven’t seen any, in recent times. Nothing major anyway. That’s my lived experience.
Recent times have certainly improved, no argument.
Sometimes things may well get exaggerated, although the TV cameras at Luton don't lie, and the Millwall Chelsea match i attended in the mid 70s (i think) was absolute carnage. I saw some bloke trying to avoid further attacks standing by a front door with claret all over his face. He appeared to have been stabbed in the eye, although I didn't stop to ask.
Im not saying that you're wrong when you describe your experiences, but you need to try and understand why some fans with long memories have reservations when it comes to your club.
Personally, I find your input thoughtful and a good contributor, much like a couple of other past Spanner contributors. Keep it up, even after we take all three points off you Saturday.
Thank you. But I’ll probably go in to hiding if you beat us on Saturday lol
Not a Charlton v Millwall story, but a moment I recall with much fondness.
1996, final year at uni, and I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news on the radio.
In Tom’s big red Volvo estate, half way up Alma Road, Portswood after intra-mural football, listening to radio 5 live…”Ipswich 0 - 0 Millwall, and Millwall have been relegated”.
It was a moment of pure joy. We had beaten the scum twice that season, so effectively sent them down.
I’m not sure everyone squeezed into the back of that car could appreciate why I was shouting and laughing, but for me, it was one of those moments I will always remember and treasure.
Only the once, the 2-0 Kim Grant game at spannerville.
We went for a booze in Tropics by South Bermondsey station. I arranged this with a customer of mine, he was a spanner and as good as gold, but was a bit tasty. He met us in the boozer for a chat and said best not for us to come over and to certainly not say that we were Charlton .
We knew the score so kept our heads down and had a couple more making sure we were to do the off quite lively if his mates trundled over!
Was this match a midweek match?
Does anyone know the date of that match?
I was definitely there, and remember my wife being pregnant with our eldest, i couldn't believe she allowed me to go!
Tuesday 5th December 1995. I was there and the 2-0 home win a few months later.
Also saw the 1-0 home wins in the Kent Cup and at Upton Park.
Kent Cup saw horrendous violence in the Covered End. Only a couple of thousand there I think. I was one very frightened 14 year old. The first time I'd seen the Covered End taken.
I was a 13 year old at the Kent Cup game, with a 12 year old friend. We left before the end because it was all going off around us and we were a bit scared. I remember it being a very sunny evening.
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1-0 Upton Park 7/3/92
2-0 The Valley 9/3/96
https://www.11v11.com/teams/charlton-athletic/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Millwall/
Then did Cascarino score?
Does anyone know the date of that match?
I was definitely there, and remember my wife being pregnant with our eldest, i couldn't believe she allowed me to go!
Also saw the 1-0 home wins in the Kent Cup and at Upton Park.
Kent Cup saw horrendous violence in the Covered End. Only a couple of thousand there I think. I was one very frightened 14 year old. The first time I'd seen the Covered End taken.
My low points were the Old Den, old Div 1, 2-0 up to 2-2 (gutted, loads of Charlton packed into the corner, and was too young to know it is the way of things in this fixture), the 4-0 hammering (when all I remember is Llera being useless and it taking forever to get away), the Valley 4-4, and the two more recent Valley games we should have won. The covid season games were horrible but I didn't attend the away game. Can't recall much else in the post prem years.
I do remember a 0-0 at the Den when it all kicked off at out end after (pyros?), but my brother and I had left early and went back into the ground to watchfrom the Millwall end - see what we did there. Also, I think it was the first game following our return to the Valley, we were in the Covered End and Millwall fans came in at the end of the game via the gates and started fighting - more violent and ultimately less successful than the black ops tactics employed by my brother and me.
The snow game was brilliant. Remember a Millwall fan getting upset with a Charlton fan at South Bermondsey station and trying to start a fight. Everyone slipping around on the snow covered platform between two rail lines.
Have in my memory the Anglo Italian win was at the Old Den, but I must be confusing things.
Midweek, 5th December '95
We played 2 Anglo Italian games at Millwall, the win was at the Old Den in September 1992, whereas the next season we played them at the New Den, which had just opened, in September 1993, and drew. I didn't go to the first game, but went to the second game to tick the new ground off!
January 68. I was 12.
Grey damp overcast day.
I had never before seen the ground so full.
The big East Terrace, where we normally stood with our Dads, was so packed us lads couldn't see the pitch - so we were allowed to go searching to find terracing where we could see, providing we didn't go down the Covered End .......which had already been taken by Millwall yobs, as my Dad had called them
We ended up standing on the 'chicken run' beside the Grandstand.
Dour evenly matched game, lit up when our 17 year old centre half Paul 'Wally' Went dispossessed the Lion's striker and fed our 19 year old midfielder Alan Campbell, who beat his man and stroked home the winner!
Remember a VERY noisy tube between New Cross and Whitechapel on the way there
in 92/93!)
In that 1968 team that beat Millwall that day:
2 Bob Curtis 17
5 Paul Went 17
6 Peter Reeves 18
4 Alan Campbell 19
The sub that season was usually Dennis Booth 19.
3 of the back 4 were teenagers - and good enough to keep a clean sheet against Millwall!
for the record, I’m not saying there’s never been problems. Obviously back in the 70’s and 80’s it was bad. But I do think sometimes things can get over exaggerated. And for me personally, I haven’t seen anything in recent times. I’m not saying there hasn’t been problems, just that I haven’t seen any, in recent times. Nothing major anyway. That’s my lived experience.
My Birthday is 8th December.
What a present that was.
Can someone please remind the players the importance of winning this fixture please? I am so fe up of watching us just mentally and physically giving up? It is ridiculous. Been supporting us since 1986. I have only ever seen us win 3 times. Once when we had an on loan players John Hendry who scored the winner at Upton Park? The best one was when we played Millwall in the snow. Millwall were top. We won 2-0? Bowyer and Alex Rae got sent off and we them at home. That same season, unbelievably, Millwall got relegated, and we had to avoid defeat, on the last day of the season. We made the playoffs. I think we played Wolves at home. Millwall played Ipswich away that day. Had Ipswich won we would have missed out on the play offs.
It is so bad, that I have a few Millwall supporters at work, who wern't even born when we last beat them.
(Yes, I know we have hardly played them in the last 20 years but it is so bad, it is an embarrassment.
Sometimes things may well get exaggerated, although the TV cameras at Luton don't lie, and the Millwall Chelsea match i attended in the mid 70s (i think) was absolute carnage. I saw some bloke trying to avoid further attacks standing by a front door with claret all over his face. He appeared to have been stabbed in the eye, although I didn't stop to ask.
Im not saying that you're wrong when you describe your experiences, but you need to try and understand why some fans with long memories have reservations when it comes to your club.
Personally, I find your input thoughtful and a good contributor, much like a couple of other past Spanner contributors. Keep it up, even after we take all three points off you Saturday.
1996, final year at uni, and I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news on the radio.
In Tom’s big red Volvo estate, half way up Alma Road, Portswood after intra-mural football, listening to radio 5 live…”Ipswich 0 - 0 Millwall, and Millwall have been relegated”.
I was also at the snow game.