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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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I think the big difference is that Jones took a while to get the players he mostly inherited into players that knew exactly how he wanted them to play. He relied on a few players he’d previously worked with to help bridge that gap and it took time and wasn’t that pretty. This time the players has available are all chosen for their ability to play the way Jones demands. I do think we’ll start slowly and cautiously while we gel and make the transition from league one but I’m saying after ten games we’ll see a rhythm to our play and an increase in points.Kap10 said:
I'm sure many would have us last but for Wednesday. I think we will have a few hairy results but ultimately be ok and 19 th is a good betRC_CAFC said:
Came out today. I think they’re very fair in their comments (although they seemed to have forgotten that Small had signed for Preston which is very unlike them)Scoham said:
Where’s their Championship predictions? I had a look but can only see L1 and L2?carly burn said:NTTT podcast got us finishing 19th.
Not convinced by the signings.
19th is a very sensible prediction for us and I am pretty sure most of us would take that now. Most of our star signings haven’t played this high so they are a gamble. But, as they stated, we have an outstanding manager.
If we finish above Blackburn as they predict we’ll have had a decent season.
However there is a lot of risk in our side with quite a few of our signings being good Lge 1, so will need to step up and there is always the blend factor. It took Jones till December to blend his squad and knowing how he wanted them to play. That's tome we cannot afford this season.6 -
We're buying potential.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
I'm sure we can think of a house analogy to back up this? 😏2 -
Conor Coady is a real charisma machine. I do wonder how much of their scouting also involves picking up proper characters for their Disney show as well. I've never seen it but I imagine a squad of Dobsons wouldn't quite catch the imagination5
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Wonder how much Dobbo will play this yearGarrymanilow said:Conor Coady is a real charisma machine. I do wonder how much of their scouting also involves picking up proper characters for their Disney show as well. I've never seen it but I imagine a squad of Dobsons wouldn't quite catch the imagination0 -
Think our business before Knibbs kept us up this signing will turn us into a top 12 teamscabbyhorse said:I'm firmly in the camp that this transfer window has given us a solid chance of survival — and honestly, I think it's a bit mad for anyone to be looking much further than that right now.4 -
Godden will still be first choice when fiteastterrace6168 said:Bet Godden is lovin' the way some on here are trying to pension him off, he'll still do for me...4 -
Back in league one on loan in January …TheHerminator said:
Wonder how much Dobbo will play this yearGarrymanilow said:Conor Coady is a real charisma machine. I do wonder how much of their scouting also involves picking up proper characters for their Disney show as well. I've never seen it but I imagine a squad of Dobsons wouldn't quite catch the imagination3 -
Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman3
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I actually think, despite their triple back to back to back promotions that Wrexham have even more work to do in the transfer window than us. They have been on a crest of an incredible wave but have a mix or L1 and L2 players for the most part and need a significant upgrade in a lot of departments. Probably need 10-12 players. NTT20 predicted Wrexham just one place above us in 18th. I think it will be the other way around unless they break the bank for 10-12 premiership level players over the coming 4-6 weeks.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
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Why would they need 10-12 premiership level players to be one place above us that's a bit of a stretch lol.2
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What a different pre season this has been. Can't remember the last time we were so active and in for a decent level of player. Really looking forward to next Saturday. Might take a little while for the team to gel and settle but I think we are in for a good season.3
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My prediction is that Parky will leave him our for the first 6 games or so, which dont produce much in the way of points, the Disney production people start to get twitchy, Parky re-instates him, after which he plays at least 30 games in all comps.TheHerminator said:
Wonder how much Dobbo will play this yearGarrymanilow said:Conor Coady is a real charisma machine. I do wonder how much of their scouting also involves picking up proper characters for their Disney show as well. I've never seen it but I imagine a squad of Dobsons wouldn't quite catch the imagination3 -
I heard he was crying into a tub of Ben & Jerry's last night while scrolling through this threadeastterrace6168 said:Bet Godden is lovin' the way some on here are trying to pension him off, he'll still do for me...
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Oggy Red said:
We're buying potential.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
I'm sure we can think of a house analogy to back up this? 😏We were a solid 2 up 2 down well built with all the doors in the right places. Renovations had sorted out the leaky roof and woodworm ignored by the previous owners. We're now going through the planning and building stages, and the builders have been asked to build a double and single story extensions to the East and West. They've completed most of this this using traditional methods but with modern materials.The planners can see our vision and have allowed us to continue with a few adjustments.The solid 2 up 2 down is now becoming an impressive family home, but with space to become a mansion when it is needed.
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Well, the feeling seems to be reciprocated by some on here...🤦♂️AberystwythAddick said:
I’m not sure he’s bothered about Charlton lifeeastterrace6168 said:Bet Godden is lovin' the way some on here are trying to pension him off, he'll still do for me...0 -
On Wrexham quickly, they are signing Broadhead as well as signed Cody and soon to be Moore. They’ve signed O’Brien as well. They’re strengthening their spine and spending huge wages that go with it.
They finished second last season, have huge momentum and brining in players who have played at the top level before. I think they’ll finish higher than 18th.
Their achilles hill is going to be Parky and how difficult the ownership will find it if they need to make a decision on his future if it’s not going to plan.
They’re going to feel incredibly loyal and close to him, but his record at this level is not good. If they hit a tough patch I don’t know if he is good enough at this level to turn it around. That’s what I’m interested in seeing.19 -
Reading between the lines. I think you're saying that @Goddenole is actually Matty Godden 🕵️♂️MickeyBennett said:
Wrong, Godden is an avid Charlton Life reader.AberystwythAddick said:
I’m not sure he’s bothered about Charlton lifeeastterrace6168 said:Bet Godden is lovin' the way some on here are trying to pension him off, he'll still do for me...
MG absolutely furious at some time of the garbage (his words) he is reading on here.
Talking about "hacking the mainframe" so he can track down certain posters via their IP address.3 -
Respectfully mate, I don't think that's the case at all.Pavoren007 said:
I actually think, despite their triple back to back to back promotions that Wrexham have even more work to do in the transfer window than us. They have been on a crest of an incredible wave but have a mix or L1 and L2 players for the most part and need a significant upgrade in a lot of departments. Probably need 10-12 players. NTT20 predicted Wrexham just one place above us in 18th. I think it will be the other way around unless they break the bank for 10-12 premiership level players over the coming 4-6 weeks.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
Their squad is at minimum high end League 1, as proven runners up and an impressive season, they have also added proven Championship proven players in Coady, Hardie, Windass, O'Brien. I might be forgetting others.
I would argue their squad is more Championship proven/ready than ours is currently. Our summer business has been very good, but all of the standouts in Kelman, Knibbs, Apter & Tanto fees wise, are unproven talents in the Championship. Until a ball is kicked our squad is very much high end League 1 as it stands. Although I do believe most of these players will step up.
I think you're underestimating Wrexham slightly there, I will be very pleasantly surprised if we finish above them, as I don't see them going down. They won't need 10 premier league players to keep their head above water, they'd probably be fighting for automatics if they did that..7 -
A few years ago you could’ve bought a house in Westcombe Park for £1m or a house in Abbey Wood for £500k. Both areas were on the same train line into London. Then they opened the Elizabeth Line, The house in Abbey Wood goes up in value as you can get into central London without changing at Charing Cross. When you bought the house in Abbey Wood, it was a potential investment.Oggy Red said:
We're buying potential.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
I'm sure we can think of a house analogy to back up this? 😏
There you go Oggy. A house and train analogy in one post.5 - Sponsored links:
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I think the big difference between Wrexhams approach and ours is that they know they have money to burn and if they buy aging players they know they can replace them again next season. They are forced to keep the bandwagon rolling because the circus and the results are intertwined. Their problem will be how to shed the older players of which they have a few on very good money but are no longer good enough. Charlton don’t have money to burn and rather than buy high cost high wage established championship players we’ve bought reasonably priced sensible experience and huge potential. I still think Wrexham will finish easily above us but their problems are not now but in a year or two.9
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That's a great strategy.2121 said:Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman
If you want to lose.4 -
The problem with buying experience is high wages, injuries take longer to heal, players are difficult to move on.Braziliance said:
Respectfully mate, I don't think that's the case at all.Pavoren007 said:
I actually think, despite their triple back to back to back promotions that Wrexham have even more work to do in the transfer window than us. They have been on a crest of an incredible wave but have a mix or L1 and L2 players for the most part and need a significant upgrade in a lot of departments. Probably need 10-12 players. NTT20 predicted Wrexham just one place above us in 18th. I think it will be the other way around unless they break the bank for 10-12 premiership level players over the coming 4-6 weeks.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
Their squad is at minimum high end League 1, as proven runners up and an impressive season, they have also added proven Championship proven players in Coady, Hardie, Windass, O'Brien. I might be forgetting others.
I would argue their squad is more Championship proven/ready than ours is currently. Our summer business has been very good, but all of the standouts in Kelman, Knibbs, Apter & Tanto fees wise, are unproven talents in the Championship. Until a ball is kicked our squad is very much high end League 1 as it stands. Although I do believe most of these players will step up.
I think you're underestimating Wrexham slightly there, I will be very pleasantly surprised if we finish above them, as I don't see them going down. They won't need 10 premier league players to keep their head above water, they'd probably be fighting for automatics if they did that..
Harry managed to bankrupt a few clubs with this policy.Not a risk I would like for our club.3 -
Why? We are a winning team with form, momentum and spirit.blackpool72 said:
That's a great strategy.2121 said:Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman
If you want to lose.Let other teams, like watfords 9 new signings, make wholeale changes and not have any of that.2 -
Look at the Wrexham squad though who would we actually take in our starting XI Broadhead, O’Brien Windass, Cacase, Coady those are only the guaranteed starters in our team. Bear in mind 2 of those aren’t going to be getting any better as well. With the trajectories of both teams I can see us finishing above Wrexham3
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It is a strategy that has worked well for Wrexham so far and they have the money to fund it.Redrobo said:
The problem with buying experience is high wages, injuries take longer to heal, players are difficult to move on.Braziliance said:
Respectfully mate, I don't think that's the case at all.Pavoren007 said:
I actually think, despite their triple back to back to back promotions that Wrexham have even more work to do in the transfer window than us. They have been on a crest of an incredible wave but have a mix or L1 and L2 players for the most part and need a significant upgrade in a lot of departments. Probably need 10-12 players. NTT20 predicted Wrexham just one place above us in 18th. I think it will be the other way around unless they break the bank for 10-12 premiership level players over the coming 4-6 weeks.Henry Irving said:Wrexham spending £2m each on Moore and Coady shows we're in a different division now but also the different approaches.
Two proven players but both 32 whereas we have gone for much younger attacking players yet to prove themselves at this level.
Their squad is at minimum high end League 1, as proven runners up and an impressive season, they have also added proven Championship proven players in Coady, Hardie, Windass, O'Brien. I might be forgetting others.
I would argue their squad is more Championship proven/ready than ours is currently. Our summer business has been very good, but all of the standouts in Kelman, Knibbs, Apter & Tanto fees wise, are unproven talents in the Championship. Until a ball is kicked our squad is very much high end League 1 as it stands. Although I do believe most of these players will step up.
I think you're underestimating Wrexham slightly there, I will be very pleasantly surprised if we finish above them, as I don't see them going down. They won't need 10 premier league players to keep their head above water, they'd probably be fighting for automatics if they did that..
Harry managed to bankrupt a few clubs with this policy.Not a risk I would like for our club.
We, on the other hand, have also bought in experienced players but also some youth, who along with our academy products, have potential to develop and be more valuable on the pitch as well as in the transfer market.
We are making the most, we hope, of what we have and Wrexham are aiming for the same but by a different route.
Parky is now a far more experienced manager and his previous failures at this level came a clubs in trouble. He's now well backed and at a stable club.
Would I swap him for Jones? No, I wouldn't and I prefer our current business model but write Wrexham off at your peril.
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When we won promotion last season to me at least we needed to sign at least 7 or 8 players to be competitive in the championship.2121 said:
Why? We are a winning team with form, momentum and spirit.blackpool72 said:
That's a great strategy.2121 said:Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman
If you want to lose.Let other teams, like watfords 9 new signings, make wholeale changes and not have any of that.
So I'm more than happy that we have signed 9.
At least 5 of those appear to be better than we had so I'm confident we will do OK this coming season.
But if we start the campaign with 9 of last Seasons players in the starting 11 I believe we will lose.
Just my opinion.2 -
BingoCharlton and on said:
Reading between the lines. I think you're saying that @Goddenole is actually Matty Godden 🕵️♂️MickeyBennett said:
Wrong, Godden is an avid Charlton Life reader.AberystwythAddick said:
I’m not sure he’s bothered about Charlton lifeeastterrace6168 said:Bet Godden is lovin' the way some on here are trying to pension him off, he'll still do for me...
MG absolutely furious at some time of the garbage (his words) he is reading on here.
Talking about "hacking the mainframe" so he can track down certain posters via their IP address.1 -
blackpool72 said:
When we won promotion last season to me at least we needed to sign at least 7 or 8 players to be competitive in the championship.2121 said:
Why? We are a winning team with form, momentum and spirit.blackpool72 said:
That's a great strategy.2121 said:Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman
If you want to lose.Let other teams, like watfords 9 new signings, make wholeale changes and not have any of that.
So I'm more than happy that we have signed 9.
At least 5 of those appear to be better than we had so I'm confident we will do OK this coming season.
But if we start the campaign with 9 of last Seasons players in the starting 11 I believe we will lose.
Just my opinion.Fair point and most will prob agree and want to see the new players - i just think let them come in naturally based on form and lessons learnt, which will keep the existing team motivated, even if it means a slow start to the season. Its gonna be a lonnnng season!0 -
We can't start the season with all 9 newcomers as some are not fit, and Knibbs is not match fitblackpool72 said:
When we won promotion last season to me at least we needed to sign at least 7 or 8 players to be competitive in the championship.2121 said:
Why? We are a winning team with form, momentum and spirit.blackpool72 said:
That's a great strategy.2121 said:Same, defo keep the league one starting 11 for now except apter for small and if godden injured, kelman
If you want to lose.Let other teams, like watfords 9 new signings, make wholeale changes and not have any of that.
So I'm more than happy that we have signed 9.
At least 5 of those appear to be better than we had so I'm confident we will do OK this coming season.
But if we start the campaign with 9 of last Seasons players in the starting 11 I believe we will lose.
Just my opinion.0
