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Allan Campbell joins on season loan(pg.9 now GONE)
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Having seen a few u21 streams this season I don't think either are the answer for adding creativity.Gisappointed said:
Enslin and Huke (injured?) are also options from U21s for creative roles.seth plum said:Watching him on the stream yesterday he looked to me like a moderate footballer (in terms of being able to kick a ball) who didn’t know what he is supposed to do.
I would play Kedwell from the unders before him.
I think Enslin has potential but as a LWB where he's mainly played this season, a position we have plenty of options in Edwards, Small and Edun.
Huke is that type of player, but first team football is much more physical and intense. I'm not convinced he'd make the step up. Put any of our first team midfielders in an u21 game and they'd all look reasonably creative with the space and time they'd have on the ball.0 -
I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.0 -
If he could be that missing player at first team level then surely he’d play in that position for the u21s. You don’t move a genuine playmaker or goalscoring midfielder to wing back where you’d limit those qualities.Gisappointed said:I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.I’d imagine they’ve moved his position because it’s his best chance of making it in senior football.
I can see why he’d have scored goals from midfield at u18 level, but I don’t think the answer to our first team midfield problems is in our current u21 squad.0 -
I noted at the beginning of the season, on the 'Not the top 20' podcast that they felt that he was far too good for L1 when we signed him. They basically said he's a cheat code. Clearly, he's lost what he had, because he isn't the player we thought we were getting. I thought he was a lot older than 26.2
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Toby Bower has started the vast majority of U21 matches, so Enslin is obviously just a fill in at LB. Using your logic CBT is a full back.Scoham said:
If he could be that missing player at first team level then surely he’d play in that position for the u21s. You don’t move a genuine playmaker or goalscoring midfielder to wing back where you’d limit those qualities.Gisappointed said:I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.I’d imagine they’ve moved his position because it’s his best chance of making it in senior football.
I can see why he’d have scored goals from midfield at u18 level, but I don’t think the answer to our first team midfield problems is in our current u21 squad.0 -
He is a poor poor player. Actually one of our worse signings in recent years. And there has been some bad ones.. But seems to get chance after chance..5
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Bower has usually played as the left sided CB in a back three with Enslin playing LWB.Gisappointed said:
Toby Bower has started the vast majority of U21 matches, so Enslin is obviously just a fill in at LB. Using your logic CBT is a full back.Scoham said:
If he could be that missing player at first team level then surely he’d play in that position for the u21s. You don’t move a genuine playmaker or goalscoring midfielder to wing back where you’d limit those qualities.Gisappointed said:I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.I’d imagine they’ve moved his position because it’s his best chance of making it in senior football.
I can see why he’d have scored goals from midfield at u18 level, but I don’t think the answer to our first team midfield problems is in our current u21 squad.2 -
Utterly horrendous player, mind boggling how he continues to be selected1
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I bow to your greater knowledge. I thought Bower was the size of a hobbit.Scoham said:
Bower has usually played as the left sided CB in a back three with Enslin playing LWB.Gisappointed said:
Toby Bower has started the vast majority of U21 matches, so Enslin is obviously just a fill in at LB. Using your logic CBT is a full back.Scoham said:
If he could be that missing player at first team level then surely he’d play in that position for the u21s. You don’t move a genuine playmaker or goalscoring midfielder to wing back where you’d limit those qualities.Gisappointed said:I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.I’d imagine they’ve moved his position because it’s his best chance of making it in senior football.
I can see why he’d have scored goals from midfield at u18 level, but I don’t think the answer to our first team midfield problems is in our current u21 squad.0 -
He’s not the biggest no, so unlikely to be his position if he plays for the first team.Gisappointed said:
I bow to your greater knowledge. I thought Bower was the size of a hobbit.Scoham said:
Bower has usually played as the left sided CB in a back three with Enslin playing LWB.Gisappointed said:
Toby Bower has started the vast majority of U21 matches, so Enslin is obviously just a fill in at LB. Using your logic CBT is a full back.Scoham said:
If he could be that missing player at first team level then surely he’d play in that position for the u21s. You don’t move a genuine playmaker or goalscoring midfielder to wing back where you’d limit those qualities.Gisappointed said:I think Enslin's move to more defensive duties is due to him growing. He certainly used to play ACM and came up with goals.
Huke I think is injured, not sure how serious.I’d imagine they’ve moved his position because it’s his best chance of making it in senior football.
I can see why he’d have scored goals from midfield at u18 level, but I don’t think the answer to our first team midfield problems is in our current u21 squad.0 - Sponsored links:
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Hope he starts against the O's. I don't like us booing our own players.
I find it interesting that in two years he has gone from a promotion winner to the Premier League to struggling to make our line up. He even had a full Scottish International cap something that Docherty , Fraser and McGrandles haven't managed.
He obviously wasn't rated to upgrade to the PL , but he moved to Millwall last season when the Spanners had narrowly missed the playoffs. What was his injury there? Did it have a major effect on him?
I remember back in the day Steve MacKenzie started slowly with us and later proved to be an influential player. I hope ( rather than expect ) Allan can prove his detractors wrong.
In the meantime let's stop barracking him , that doesn't help anyone.9 -
He’s horse shit and one of the worst loan signings we’ve had. Get rid in Jan3
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Yeah I really don’t get the point in booing our own players before they’ve even done anything wrong in the game. What are we hoping to achieve from that? Fair enough if he has a shit game then go for it, but I really don’t the see the point of it starting before he’s even touched the ball5
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We sat with our fans at Lincoln, the reaction to Campbell getting ready to come on was far from "excited to see him", toxic, would be a better description!
Personally I've yet to see any value in the player, lightweight and without impact, however, Mr Jones "he was excellent" against Crawley!
A rather large element of the upper north did not agree and were pleading for him to be taken off.
Seems to me, Mr Jones has made three serious errors of judgment, Berry, Docherty and Campbell, hence the absence of any creative midfield football and the adoption of "hoof ball".
Sadly our God fearing manager fella, is destined to follow so many before him, so disappointing another year in league 1beckons.4 -
I think he's probably a good player but we'll never see it because Jones insists on playing him advanced.1
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This is a squad building issue. Could easily be argued that Campbell, Coventry, Taylor, Docherty are all best in the 6 role but there's only one of them when we play 352 and only two of them in the box midfieldChunes said:I think he's probably a good player but we'll never see it because Jones insists on playing him advanced.2 -
cafc4life said:He’s horse shit and one of the worst loan signings we’ve had. Get rid in Jan
this - and he's got some stiff competition for that title - but he's right up there.cafc4life said:He’s horse shit and one of the worst loan signings we’ve had. Get rid in Jan
nicking a living as a professional footballer, brings absolutely nothing, he's totally anonymous when he plays0 -
We’ve had plenty of shite midfielders over the last few years, the likes of Shinnie, Bakinson, Levitt and Smith to name a few. For the most part I could see how this mob could be footballers given the right set up. BUT….. Campbell doesn’t even look like a footballer. If this loan isn’t cut short it’ll be unquestionably an old pals type of thing with Jones. What a mess!3
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Cawley reporting he's off to Dundee on a permanent transfer.7
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What a disappointment. Felt like a really good signing at the time and I had high hopes. I do sort of wonder how he'd have done in this current run of games if Docherty hadn't started to show what he's about a bit but we'll never know, and of all our midfielders Campbell did the least to deserve getting a run in the side.
It does mean though that we've gone from having a lot of central midfielders to just four in a team that plays with three. Yes we might be able to put Zach Mitchell or REG there but I'll feel a lot better if we have a couple more in as cover6 - Sponsored links:
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If our (limited) loan signings will be as good as Allan Campbell, perhaps we should just use it as an emergency market!0
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Played well against Birmingham, didn’t against anyone else. Cheers Allan0
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Good decision. Admitting signing him was an error and moving him on as soon as we could. NJ has probably had to swallow a bit of pride to release him from his loan. That’s another good sign, in my book, because I thought his stubbornness might sink us back in November.It’s been a successful window cleaning out the deadwood, even if some of that wood was purchased recently, which is always disappointing. The squad needed trimming but the midfield also needed rebalancing so there must be one or two incoming now to.2
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For fucks sake!!
More balloons to blow up for a leaving party... I ain't shelling out another £9 in Morrisons for a cake!3 -
It's Dundee United.jamesking93 said:Cawley reporting he's off to Dundee on a permanent transfer.0 -
It would feel even better if at least one is an upgrade on Berry and at least one is permanent.Garrymanilow said:What a disappointment. Felt like a really good signing at the time and I had high hopes. I do sort of wonder how he'd have done in this current run of games if Docherty hadn't started to show what he's about a bit but we'll never know, and of all our midfielders Campbell did the least to deserve getting a run in the side.
It does mean though that we've gone from having a lot of central midfielders to just four in a team that plays with three. Yes we might be able to put Zach Mitchell or REG there but I'll feel a lot better if we have a couple more in as cover1 -
Said it on the post match thread at the time, but reckon he would have failed a piss test after the Birmingham game. The only time he remotely resembled a professional footballer.
Thanks for the memories Alan.2 -
Need a number 10 and another CM to have proper cover now imo.0
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And that would still leave us lacking proper alternatives to Small and TCcantersaddick said:Need a number 10 and another CM to have proper cover now imo.1 -
The number 10 could be a pacy attacking player that can play centrally or out wide. Would make more sense as that’s then something different to what Berry offersScoham said:
And that would still leave us lacking proper alternatives to Small and TCcantersaddick said:Need a number 10 and another CM to have proper cover now imo.
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