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Sadly that’s more now due to petty disputes between neighbouring councils and funding.cantersaddick said:
They ask for a council tax bill and ID before letting you in around here. hardly exactly encouraging recycling. More likely to lead to fly tipping which costs more than letting some people that technically live in another LA use the centre. But whatever.swordfish said:
I sympathize. I use one local to me that's actually over the county border, but I'm a familiar face there and have never been asked where I live. I ought to use one in my own county really, but I don't lose sleep over it 😉cantersaddick said:
That is frustrating and all of these little things do make a difference. This is one thing that should be obvious, recycling should be made much easier particularly of some of these niche things like you mention and batteries, lightbulbs, electrics etc.swordfish said:There isn't a recycling thread, but when you want to do the right thing and have to put yourself out to, it's so annoying. I'm trying to get rid of stuff and want to recycle old VHS tapes and CD's, but unless I drive over 100 miles to Cheltenham, or pay through the nose for a recycling specialist to collect them, I have loads of pre recorded and blanks destined for landfill. The hard plastic casings are just as bad 😡
Not quite as bad but a slightly annoying thing for me is we recently had a big clear out and had a load of stuff to get rid of. Sorted it all into categories and wanted to take it all to our local recycling centre which is 5 mins away in Sidcup but we are unable to as that is run by Bexley council and we live barely across the boarder in Greenwich. The nearest Greenwich one is half an hour away. Just unnecessary and inefficient.I’m with you as in my view there are as many Bexley residents who might find themselves closer to a Greenwich site as the other way around. Previously you were not checked.Common sense is not allowed to prevail.A similar issue for me in Welling is reporting flytipping near the train station which then becomes a dispute on network rail versus the council rather than just dealing with it for the greater good.1 -
Given my experience, I suspect it depends what part of the Country you live. They don't seem to mind on the Leicestershire side of the border with Northamptonshire, but now it's been mentioned couple of times, I'm tempted to go to the Kettering one, which I ought to use rather than the closer Market Harborough one, and see if they do any checks there.Bournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authorities to take their landfill rubbish to one further away but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.
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The stupid thing is my brother lives in Abbey wood and is much much nearer to the Greenwich one I have to go to but as he lives in bexley he has to schelep over here. Its maddness. But agree its out of necessity with the way the system is right now. My point is the system shouldn't make it a necessityBournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authority's tip to take their landfill rubbish to one further away, but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.1 -
I'm sure I've shared this previously but working in the sustainability sector, friends/family are always asking me what they can really do to make a difference, as understandably putting your recycling in the right bin, walking instead of driving, eating less red meat etc etc inevitably feels insignificant in comparison to the scale of the global problem.
My answer is always the same (and is much easier, and a lot less impactful on your daily life/routine) - review/change who you bank with.
In the last 12 months, the Big 5 UK high street banks – Barclays, HSBC, Santander, NatWest and Lloyds - provided $37bn (of their customers money) to fossil fuel companies, so if you have any accounts with these banks in particular, your money is inadvertently funding the climate crisis. One big change you can make is switching your pension provider and making your pension 'green' - this one easy action is 21x more powerful (respectively) at cutting your individual carbon footprint than giving up flying, going veggie and switching energy provider combined.
Most employers auto-enrol employees into a pension that is a standard (and not sustainable) pension plan, which can be easily switched with minimal impact but requires the individual to request it from the provider.
Some useful links:
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/oct/04/green-pension-help-environment-climate-crisis
https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/26/barclays-accused-of-greenwashing-over-financing-for-italian-oil-company
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I absolutely agree with this but do also want to make the point that the small and seemingly insignificant actions do actually have a big effect. The signalling effects of every decision you take should not be underestimated in the impact they can have on large corporations and on governments is huge. If you consider the environment in your purchasing decisions then corporations will follow what the consumer wants similarly governments will understand it is a big issue for voters and business and reflect it on policy. So please do the small things in order to impact the big things.Rufus is a dogs name said:I'm sure I've shared this previously but working in the sustainability sector, friends/family are always asking me what they can really do to make a difference, as understandably putting your recycling in the right bin, walking instead of driving, eating less red meat etc etc inevitably feels insignificant in comparison to the scale of the global problem.
My answer is always the same (and is much easier, and a lot less impactful on your daily life/routine) - review/change who you bank with.
In the last 12 months, the Big 5 UK high street banks – Barclays, HSBC, Santander, NatWest and Lloyds - provided $37bn (of their customers money) to fossil fuel companies, so if you have any accounts with these banks in particular, your money is inadvertently funding the climate crisis. One big change you can make is switching your pension provider and making your pension 'green' - this one easy action is 21x more powerful (respectively) at cutting your individual carbon footprint than giving up flying, going veggie and switching energy provider combined.
Most employers auto-enrol employees into a pension that is a standard (and not sustainable) pension plan, which can be easily switched with minimal impact but requires the individual to request it from the provider.
Some useful links:
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/oct/04/green-pension-help-environment-climate-crisis
https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/26/barclays-accused-of-greenwashing-over-financing-for-italian-oil-company4 -
I'd be surprised if there's not at least some cursory checks done at all tips these days. Or checking every 10th car or putting someone on the gate on random days.swordfish said:
Given my experience, I suspect it depends what part of the Country you live. They don't seem to mind on the Leicestershire side of the border with Northamptonshire, but now it's been mentioned couple of times, I'm tempted to go to the Kettering one, which I ought to use rather than the closer Market Harborough one, and see if they do any checks there.Bournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authorities to take their landfill rubbish to one further away but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.
It's all very well (and quite insulting to those involved) suggesting councils are engaging in "petty disputes" over funding and lacking in "common sense" @valleynick66 but there's just not that financial slack in the system to allow non-residents to impose a cost on the neighbouring authority.
Do you know of any business that would happily take on the costs associated with servicing the clients of another business for no benefit to themselves?1 -
In answer to your question, no, but I can honesty say I've never been asked and I'm a frequent user of my local one. I don't usually go at busier times though, so perhaps they're just slack there. I will try the Kettering one next time out of interest. At least if I'm questioned there, I'm within my rights using it anyway.Bournemouth Addick said:
I'd be surprised if there's not at least some cursory checks done at all tips these days. Or checking every 10th car or putting someone on the gate on random days.swordfish said:
Given my experience, I suspect it depends what part of the Country you live. They don't seem to mind on the Leicestershire side of the border with Northamptonshire, but now it's been mentioned couple of times, I'm tempted to go to the Kettering one, which I ought to use rather than the closer Market Harborough one, and see if they do any checks there.Bournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authorities to take their landfill rubbish to one further away but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.
It's all very well (and quite insulting to those involved) suggesting councils are engaging in "petty disputes" over funding and lacking in "common sense" @valleynick66 but there's just not that financial slack in the system to allow non-residents to impose a cost on the neighbouring authority.
Do you know of any business that would happily take on the costs associated with servicing the clients of another business for no benefit to themselves?0 -
I can promise you everyone involved in providing council ran tips would love not to have the grief involved in limiting access to "their" residents only. Contrary to some views, they're not stupid jobsworths and have done a lot of work trying to find a workable solution.cantersaddick said:
The stupid thing is my brother lives in Abbey wood and is much much nearer to the Greenwich one I have to go to but as he lives in bexley he has to schelep over here. Its maddness. But agree its out of necessity with the way the system is right now. My point is the system shouldn't make it a necessityBournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authority's tip to take their landfill rubbish to one further away, but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.
But short of booking everyone in over a weighbridge and keeping detailed records of exactly what's being dumped by non-residents for recharging purposes its just not currently practical. It's an all or nothing situation and likely to remain so whilst the financial situation remains as it is.0 -
@bournemouthaddick Im not suggesting the border disputes are not out of financial reality. Perhaps my language could have been better.swordfish said:
In answer to your question, no, but I can honesty say I've never been asked and I'm a frequent user of my local one. I don't usually go at busier times though, so perhaps they're just slack there. I will try the Kettering one next time out of interest. At least if I'm questioned there, I'm within my rights using it anyway.Bournemouth Addick said:
I'd be surprised if there's not at least some cursory checks done at all tips these days. Or checking every 10th car or putting someone on the gate on random days.swordfish said:
Given my experience, I suspect it depends what part of the Country you live. They don't seem to mind on the Leicestershire side of the border with Northamptonshire, but now it's been mentioned couple of times, I'm tempted to go to the Kettering one, which I ought to use rather than the closer Market Harborough one, and see if they do any checks there.Bournemouth Addick said:
It's a direct consequence of the budgetary pressures local councils are now under. Rubbish isn't free to dispose of, just the opposite, and includes that landfill tax element you reference. Dunno what the current rate is but I know it was £80/tonne about 5 years ago so it'll be £100+ now I'd think.Stig said:Our one has ANPR so they know where the vehicle is registered. You also have to book a slot online and will turn you away if you haven't done done it in advance. It's like they are actively trying to discourage visitors. No wonder there is so much fly tipping. I think landfill tax needs to be seriously re-thought, too many unintended consequences.
It's annoying for those who live nearer another local authorities to take their landfill rubbish to one further away but the fact is it's factored into your council tax. Why should the residents of one area pick up the bill for those in another in its simplist terms? Especially when you have commercial businesses taking the mickey and dumping for free if they can get away with it.
The days when councils could take a pragmatic view and turn a blind eye to out of area residents using their facilities are behind us through necessity.
It really doesn't impact largely on fly tipping either tbh. If you're a fly tipper, you're a fly tipper, whether you have to prove where you live or not.
It's all very well (and quite insulting to those involved) suggesting councils are engaging in "petty disputes" over funding and lacking in "common sense" @valleynick66 but there's just not that financial slack in the system to allow non-residents to impose a cost on the neighbouring authority.
Do you know of any business that would happily take on the costs associated with servicing the clients of another business for no benefit to themselves?I’m trying to say that the process means they have to do this and likely spend more on the associated administration which is a distraction to just getting the waste cleared. The common sense has been removed because of the bureaucracy above.Most businesses and industries are guilty of having inefficient processes due to the need to account for everything in our corporate approach to everything.As an example. Many years ago as a BANK cashier you could process a paying in slip for another bank or cash a cheque for them. There were nominally small fees and which were entirely manual and if you remembered. A pragmatic approach could be taken to perhaps do it once for someone to assist (e.g. an older customer who had been queuing up for sone time) without cost. That sort of latitude gets removed and wouldn’t exist in the same way today.0 -
https://news.sky.com/story/governments-climate-plan-ruled-unlawful-by-high-court-13127958
Government's climate plan ruled unlawful by High Court
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I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.0 -
Bingo.0
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What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.0 -
Do you have evidence that this is actually happening? I am aware that 10-15 years ago there was a bit of a scandal about councils not actually recycling what was put in recycling. But that was addressed and from what Ive read pretty much everything that is recyclable and put in recycling is now dealt with properly by councils.shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.1 -
Google UK export recycling, there are page after page of reports and the data. It might be reducing due to realising there's money in shite Netherlands take loads to actually process, but they have been ahead of the game for years. 25 years ago they were already refunding 10p off of every beer can you took back.cantersaddick said:
Do you have evidence that this is actually happening? I am aware that 10-15 years ago there was a bit of a scandal about councils not actually recycling what was put in recycling. But that was addressed and from what Ive read pretty much everything that is recyclable and put in recycling is now dealt with properly by councils.shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.
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10p back on cans of dutch beer 25 years ago? Surely that would be worth more than the contents. The more you drink the more profit you make, and good for the environment... . sensible policy! I'll suggest that to my MP 😉shine166 said:
Google UK export recycling, there are page after page of reports and the data. It might be reducing due to realising there's money in shite Netherlands take loads to actually process, but they have been ahead of the game for years. 25 years ago they were already refunding 10p off of every beer can you took back.cantersaddick said:
Do you have evidence that this is actually happening? I am aware that 10-15 years ago there was a bit of a scandal about councils not actually recycling what was put in recycling. But that was addressed and from what Ive read pretty much everything that is recyclable and put in recycling is now dealt with properly by councils.shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.2 -
On the subject of recycling centres, here in Devon I don't need an ID, which is absurd.
I use a van for gardening, it's got a waste transfer licence for green stuff, and I need to buy a book of permits to take dumpy bags in.
A year or so ago, they introduced another permit system for owners of vans to deposit domestic waste. Although very annoying, I went to register for one, but was denied one because the van is also used for commercial purposes!
I once was doing a job with Mrs TT 15 miles from home, we took some recycling to the local tip. I parked outside, she carried the recycling in. A jobsworth barred her way and asked how she got there, she told him it was by van, but that's irrelevant as she was carrying the items to the tip. He wouldn't have it until she told him that he let's her place them in the correct receptacles, or she drops them on the floor right there. Sense prevailed.0 -
I was quoting from the comments that followed the Twitter post. The person commenting was likening the action/inaction of Governments on Climate Change, to their current action/inaction on Covid.shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.
It's often inconvenient to act, so they do nothing or very little, kicking the can down the road for others to deal with in the future.
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swordfish said:
10p back on cans of dutch beer 25 years ago? Surely that would be worth more than the contents. The more you drink the more profit you make, and good for the environment... . sensible policy! I'll suggest that to my MP 😉shine166 said:
Google UK export recycling, there are page after page of reports and the data. It might be reducing due to realising there's money in shite Netherlands take loads to actually process, but they have been ahead of the game for years. 25 years ago they were already refunding 10p off of every beer can you took back.cantersaddick said:
Do you have evidence that this is actually happening? I am aware that 10-15 years ago there was a bit of a scandal about councils not actually recycling what was put in recycling. But that was addressed and from what Ive read pretty much everything that is recyclable and put in recycling is now dealt with properly by councils.shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.
It may have even been the big swing top grolsh bottles. When I was backpacking in OZ around 2009 they used to do the same, you'd be surprised how many empties build up over a weekend at a hostel ! was a good little earner.2 - Sponsored links:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjq5gky4e5no
Australia has announced it will ramp up its extraction and use of gas until "2050 and beyond", despite global calls to phase out fossil fuels.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's government says the move is needed to shore up domestic energy supply while supporting a transition to net zero.
But critics argue the move is a rejection of science, pointing to the International Energy Agency (IEA) call for "huge declines in the use of coal, oil and gas" to reach climate targets.
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Hope I’m wrong but I fear what politicians the world over do or rather don’t do over the next decade might eventually be viewed as the biggest and perhaps last crime against humanity.5
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5 reasons to be optimistic. Bbc
It's easy to feel overwhelmed by bad news about climate change.
Of course we are right to worry. This year will be the warmest twelve months in 125,000 years, scientists say, as its impacts hit home in every corner of the Earth.
But as UN climate talks conclude at COP28 in Dubai, there are some real reasons to be optimistic too. Here's a look at some of them....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67627242
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We are perched on the fulcrum. It will take more than the masses are willing to requenish. Waving goodbye to beef, holidays abroad and dirty cars doesn't come close. Whole nations need to return to darkness.
It's okay for living things to become extinct, we seem to be obsessed with savings every life form.
Had the dinosaurs not been eradicated by the Chicxulub asteroid then none of us would be here today.
Let the humans kill themselves, the earth and life on it will recover, just not as we know it.0 -
I think in some strange way you’re onto something there but I don’t give two fucks if the earth recovers in a million years and the ants take over. I’d prefer humanity to survive and not commit wilful hari kari. We can survive but not by what we’re currently doing.PopIcon said:We are perched on the fulcrum. It will take more than the masses are willing to requenish. Waving goodbye to beef, holidays abroad and dirty cars doesn't come close. Whole nations need to return to darkness.
It's okay for living things to become extinct, we seem to be obsessed with savings every life form.
Had the dinosaurs not been eradicated by the Chicxulub asteroid then none of us would be here today.
Let the humans kill themselves, the earth and life on it will recover, just not as we know it.1 -
shine166 said:
What does this have to do with covid ?ME14addick said:
I wanted to like your post but that doesn't seem right in the circumstances.cantersaddick said:
Reading through the comments, there is one that said that it's too inconvenient for Governments to take action, until it is too late, just as they are doing with Covid.
Il keep washing out my yoghurt pots and putting plastic in the correct bin, only for it to be shipped abroad and burnt.. definitely seems wise for the planet.
Would be great if we built own infrastructure amd processed it properly.
Not shipped abroad. To Belvedere.
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A significant step forward.
UK breakthrough could slash emissions from cement
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxee01m5yeroScientists say they've found a way to recycle cement from demolished concrete buildings.
Cement is the modern world's most common construction material, but it is also a huge source of planet-warming gas emissions.
Recycling cement would massively reduce its carbon footprint.
Researchers say that if they switched to electric-powered furnaces, and used renewable energy like wind and solar rather than fossil fuels, that could mean no greenhouse gases would be released at all.
And that would be a big deal. Cement forms the foundation of the modern economy, both literally and metaphorically.
It is what binds the sand and aggregate in concrete together, and concrete is the most widely used material on the planet after water.
It is also a major driver of climate change. If cement was a country, it would be the third biggest source of emissions after China and the US, responsible for 7.5% of human-made CO2.
The team of scientists, from Cambridge University, has found a neat way to sidestep those emissions.
It exploits the fact that you can reactivate used cement by exposing it to high temperatures again.
The chemistry is well-established, and it has been done at scale in cement kilns.
The breakthrough is to prove it can be done by piggybacking on the heat generated by another heavy industry – steel recycling.
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Wow!
Iceland trialling turning CO2 into rock in 2 years.
Not a solution, but scaled up another excellent step in the right direction.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/reel/video/p0htrs1d/inside-the-icelandic-plant-turning-co2-into-rocks
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posted without reading all the previous, so apologies if any duplicaiton, but today it was announced that China purchaed 204.97 Million tonnes of coal in the 5 months this year, make you feel good about not having plastic straws..!1
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A one tonne CO2 emissions allowance in the EU costs about 70 Euros, so if they can capture the CO2 below that price and sell the resulting allowance, it would be economically viable.MrWalker said:Wow!
Iceland trialling turning CO2 into rock in 2 years.
Not a solution, but scaled up another excellent step in the right direction.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/reel/video/p0htrs1d/inside-the-icelandic-plant-turning-co2-into-rocks
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