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Phil
Phil Posts: 616
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For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,993
    Phil said:
    For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
    So you made on the vodka and lost on the beer?

    So really it’s poorly staffed and as a consequence you’d think an easy fix to get more punters to stay for a few post match if proper bar staff employed 

    I can only assume the Outsourcing’ means the club don’t really have much of a stake in this. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    I go there every match and have never been charged £7 a pint. 
  • Phil
    Phil Posts: 616
    I could have made on the vodka in a way if we were able to stay and order more V & C sans the coke yes. However, the bar shut so that particular avenue was closed!
    I don’t know if the bar is outsourced or not but it’s a mess either way!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,415
    se9addick said:
    I go there every match and have never been charged £7 a pint. 
    £8?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,240
    Phil said:
    For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
    Peroni was £7 a pint and what I got was a pint of Peroni.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,907
    Not great in there. The staff are very friendly and nice peo[;e in there/ They actually ran out of Peroni and Grosch at 2.30pm
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,879
    I stopped drinking in the Valley a couple of years ago.
    Plenty of places to drink in Greenwich, Maze Hill,  Woolwich and Plumstead. 
    Better service, more choice, lower prices and far less queues. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    Used to go in there after the The Swan was closed and there wasn't anywhere else.

    Don't like the oak so now drink in Plumstead. Did go in there after a game last year prior to a lads curry night. Got charged £25.40 for 4 pints of Peroni and thought that's it for me.

    On top of that they are never ready at the allotted opening times and the bar staff although friendly are mostly useless.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    valleynick66 said:
    Phil said:
    For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
    So you made on the vodka and lost on the beer?

    So really it’s poorly staffed and as a consequence you’d think an easy fix to get more punters to stay for a few post match if proper bar staff employed 

    I can only assume the Outsourcing’ means the club don’t really have much of a stake in this. 
    Think they are outsourced there seem to be different staff every time i used to go in there.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,630
    Andy Scott has spoken about improving things with the club as a whole. And this is a classic example of shoddiness.
    I said his words were at least a barometer to beat him with. This is a pretty quick win isn't it?


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  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,598
    Chippycafc said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Phil said:
    For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
    So you made on the vodka and lost on the beer?

    So really it’s poorly staffed and as a consequence you’d think an easy fix to get more punters to stay for a few post match if proper bar staff employed 

    I can only assume the Outsourcing’ means the club don’t really have much of a stake in this. 
    Think they are outsourced there seem to be different staff every time i used to go in there.
    That’s going to be the biggest problem. It’ll be hard to find any experienced bar staff if you’re only opening maybe twice every two weeks. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,463
    carly burn said:
    Andy Scott has spoken about improving things with the club as a whole. And this is a classic example of shoddiness.
    I said his words were at least a barometer to beat him with. This is a pretty quick win isn't it?

    ???
  • Phil
    Phil Posts: 616
    carly burn said:
    Andy Scott has spoken about improving things with the club as a whole. And this is a classic example of shoddiness.
    I said his words were at least a barometer to beat him with. This is a pretty quick win isn't it?

    Indeed it is. I accept you might have to pay a bit but it seems silly to call last orders at 6pm. You’ve got people there and it’s a great commercial opportunity. It’s not difficult to work out what to do. A number of clubs offer something for a couple of hours. As you an easy fix.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,586
    edited October 2023
    I don't mind the fans bar these days. The drinks have improved and it's usually pretty quick to get served (a lot quicker than in the stands). Obviously it could still be better. 

    I don't understand why they close the bar at the end before the other one, though. The staff are all just standing there with nothing to do but say they're closed and you have to walk down to the next one. What is that achieving?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,394
    SomervilleAddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Phil said:
    For the first time in ages I went to the Fans Bar post match. I thought it was a bit empty given that spirits were high having rescued a point. Now I know why! One bar was shut at 5.45pm and last orders called at 6pm! Peroni was £7 a pint and I’m not sure what I’m getting to justify the price. Added to which when I ordered my mate a vodka and coke I got a glass of vodka with a bit of coke plus what remained of the the small bottle of coke! Bizarre! On the basis of that it’ll be a while before I bother going back!
    So you made on the vodka and lost on the beer?

    So really it’s poorly staffed and as a consequence you’d think an easy fix to get more punters to stay for a few post match if proper bar staff employed 

    I can only assume the Outsourcing’ means the club don’t really have much of a stake in this. 
    Think they are outsourced there seem to be different staff every time i used to go in there.
    That’s going to be the biggest problem. It’ll be hard to find any experienced bar staff if you’re only opening maybe twice every two weeks. 
    All sports stadiums have the same problem. I imagine there's a pool of casual staff who are allocated to stadiums, whether The Valley, The Oval or Selhurst Park, depending on who is playing when.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,353
    I have spoken to the manager of the fans bar regarding the times a couple of times now as me and my mates weren't happy they advertise watching the evening kick off after the game then kick you out after about 70 minutes.

    The manager told me the bar on the far side closing early and then other bars closing at 6 is down to gather and gather, basically he said people would come in at full time order a couple of drinks and sit there with them watching the game and not order again ao gather and gather were paying staff and losing money as the staff were doing nothing, so he said they send some home when the first bar closes and then have last orders at 6pm

    You can however stay and watch the rest of the evening kick off, just get a drink before last orders and tell the staff your watching the game and they let you stay, again me and my mates were the last in their yesterday watching Palace v Forest
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    They have had lots of walk round surveys in there in the past. One of our team spoke at length to the manager one week regarding, the : -

    Opening and closing times of the bars including why are they never ready on time.
    The competency of the staff.
    Lack of choice of ales (especially real ales).
    Hot food choice and the ridiculous price of it.
    Removal of the stupid bar around TV screens that spoil the live match viewing.
    Price of drinks particularly non-alcoholic ones.

    A few weeks later a real ale appeared and that was about it....Nothing else had changed.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,639
    I’ve been in once - never again !!

    Ordered my mate a pint of lager, had such a big head on it, I thought they were gonna produce a Badger hair barbers brush, and offer me a shave

    I had to explain to the lad how you pour a pint

    Just dreadful, like the food outlets (which I also no longer frequent) - The Oak gets my business - at least the bar staff know how to pour a pint (and some of the bar maids are also rather attractive) 😃
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,156
    I don't bother with anything from that shit show. Under trained staff who are always surprised by how busy it is on a Saturday. The fact majority of them can't pour a pint or use a till is shocking. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,630
    edited October 2023
    Whenever I buy anything from any of the bars around the ground it always appears to me that the member of staff serving me is on their first day..Is that the actual case? Have we really got such a huge turnover of staff? Or am I wrong and they are just useless?

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  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,639
    carly burn said:
    Whenever I buy anything from any of the bars around the ground it always appears to me that the member of staff serving me is on their first day..Is that the actual case? Have we really got such a huge turnover of staff? Or am I wrong and they are just useless?
    I think you will find they are only hired for the day, hence the lack of experience 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,630
    edited October 2023
    Take a look at @FootyScran on twitter.
    Some of the offerings at other clubs offer is off the scale. It's really not difficult for someone that gives a sh*t.
    Is S.Sutherland on here?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,179
    They will be temp staff that are in full time study for example, and need a bit of cash at the weekend. They won’t be actual professional hospitality staff.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,951
    Personally I think it’s improved from last year, the beer is better and I quite like it before the game - kids enjoy it, yeah it’s too pricey but these days where isn’t !!
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    edited October 2023
    Elthamaddick said:
    Personally I think it’s improved from last year, the beer is better and I quite like it before the game - kids enjoy it, yeah it’s too pricey but these days where isn’t !!
    The radical in Plumstead, 2 pints of speckled hen and a pint of inches cider £10.30 on Saturday.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,463
    Chippycafc said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    Personally I think it’s improved from last year, the beer is better and I quite like it before the game - kids enjoy it, yeah it’s too pricey but these days where isn’t !!
    The radical in Plumstead, 2 pints of speckled hen and a pint of inches cider £10.30 on Saturday.
    Yeah but there are some right riff raff who drink in there :wink:
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,394
    carly burn said:
    Take a look at @FootyScran on twitter.
    Some of the offerings at other clubs offer is off the scale. It's really not difficult for someone that gives a sh*t.
    Is S.Sutherland on here?
    Most of those photos are of food though, rather than beer service.

    I've never had anything at The Valley recently, but the kiosk just inside the entrance to the Curbs looks pretty decent.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,463
    Footy scan featured some food from the Valley last week.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    Henry Irving said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    Personally I think it’s improved from last year, the beer is better and I quite like it before the game - kids enjoy it, yeah it’s too pricey but these days where isn’t !!
    The radical in Plumstead, 2 pints of speckled hen and a pint of inches cider £10.30 on Saturday.
    Yeah but there are some right riff raff who drink in there :wink:
    Only on your side of the bar.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,074
    paulie8290 said:
    me and my mates were the last in their yesterday watching Palace v Forest
    Watching a palarse game at the Valley?

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