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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    Khawaja has copped a bad one there. Should've reviewed

  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    Not sure i've ever seen a quicker outfield in England
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Pelling1993 said:
    Fastest ever over recorded at Headingley
    Only cos Fred's weren't recorded.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    I much prefer pitches with a bit of pace and bounce in them
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,041
    Pelling1993 said:
    This is pretty much as good as test cricket gets. Absolute thunder bolts from Wood. Marnus doing a decent job up to now
    Was going to say, does it get any better than a proper quick bowler making stumps fly off?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    It's interesting when you see that Tongue, our second fastest bowler in the Series, averages 84.9mph compared to Wood's 93.0mph. The gap between them is massive especially when one considers that the gap between Tongue and the rest of our seamers is in the 2.5 to-4.0mph range. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    another drop for bairstow in the book... :)
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,766
    A tough chance there for Bairstow. 
    But I believe Foakes would have caught it.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    edited July 2023
    I can't say whether Foakes would have caught that one or not but I do know that, generally speaking, Foakes' movement of the feet is much the better of the two and that does mean that he isn't quite so flat footed when he does have to dive
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,408
    Foakes would have caught it and thrown the stumps down too

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,041
    blackpool72 said:
    A tough chance there for Bairstow. 
    But I believe Foakes would have caught it.
    Same.

    Hopefully it's not costly, Smith for 4 would have been a result.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,834
    and Foakes would have scored a hundred and bowled faster then Woods, cause you know he's magic 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,834
    Anyway, cracking wicket

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,766
    Labuschange gone 
    Get in 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    Woakes starting to justify his selection. Well done son!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,041
    edited July 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Fastest ever over recorded at Headingley
    Only cos Fred's weren't recorded.
    Interesting debate on how quick the older generation were, before speed guns were common.

    Consensus is Jeff Thomson may have been the fastest, I wonder how quick Holding etc were.
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,893
    Get the f*ck in
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,041
    Yes Woakes!!  Come on, keep at this!  Smith before lunch....
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    Yes 3 gone 
    Come On ENGLAND  B)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    Leuth said:
    Foakes would have caught it and thrown the stumps down too
    Yes but the stumping wouldn't have been out. Unlike Bairstow's. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    I was on the bog for the Labuschagne wicket, so I'm claiming that.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,894
    1 more before lunch would signal a great morning for England.

    3 down isn't too shabby though  
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    Rothko said:
    and Foakes would have scored a hundred and bowled faster then Woods, cause you know he's magic 
    And won more Majors than Woods too
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    killerandflash said:
    I was on the bog for the Labuschagne wicket, so I'm claiming that.
    Let's hope you have a touch of the runs then!
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    Whilst there's no doubting that Foakes is the best keeper, he's dropped plenty in an England shirt too.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,766
    Pelling1993 said:
    Whilst there's no doubting that Foakes is the best keeper, he's dropped plenty in an England shirt too.
    All keeper's drop catches no ones perfect. 
    But there's no denying Foakes is a far superior keeper than Bairstow. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    edited July 2023
    Smith is the one we need to get. That stat of him averaging 87.57 in the first innings of a match in Test cricket is absolutely staggering - 4,641 runs in 61 innings of which he was not 8 times
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    blackpool72 said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Whilst there's no doubting that Foakes is the best keeper, he's dropped plenty in an England shirt too.
    All keeper's drop catches no ones perfect. 
    But there's no denying Foakes is a far superior keeper than Bairstow. 
    And Bairstow is the far superior batsman.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    edited July 2023
    Pelling1993 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Whilst there's no doubting that Foakes is the best keeper, he's dropped plenty in an England shirt too.
    All keeper's drop catches no ones perfect. 
    But there's no denying Foakes is a far superior keeper than Bairstow. 
    And Bairstow is the far superior batsman.
    Not when taking the gloves he isn't.

    Edit - that isn't actually true because from what I can see Bairstow averages 37.08 when keeper and 36.62 when keeper. Foakes averages 32.20 so the differential is 4.88 runs per innings. It's a question then of quantifying how many runs and games Foakes' mistakes have cost us compared to Bairstow
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,766
    Pelling1993 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    Whilst there's no doubting that Foakes is the best keeper, he's dropped plenty in an England shirt too.
    All keeper's drop catches no ones perfect. 
    But there's no denying Foakes is a far superior keeper than Bairstow. 
    And Bairstow is the far superior batsman.
    Bairstow averages 37 in Tests 
    Foakes averages 32 in Tests. 

    So 10 runs per Test difference. 

    The dropped catches and missed stumping add up to far more than that.

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