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  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    At the end of the season I was hoping that we would keep both Hector and Sessengon. One down would be pleased if we get the second signed up at some point. 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    Swisdom said:
    Hector is very important both on and off the pitch.  He’s a great leader and respected by the younger players.  Inspirational.  

    I’d have preferred a 2 year deal but for now he’s our man so that’s important for us.

    good signing
    I wish you’d stop being the voice of reason
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    golfaddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?

    Clutching at straws I know… :-)
    That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.

    Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months. 

    Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year  ??  

    Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.

    I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    Garrymanilow said:
    golfaddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?

    Clutching at straws I know… :-)
    That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.

    Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months. 

    Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year  ??  

    Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.

    I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing
    Makes sense except we were continually told he had Championship offers.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Southbank said:
    MickeyBennett said:
    Southbank said:
    Fantastic news!!! We are signing the same players who got us to 10th last season. Brilliant. I am buying my season ticket right now. Can't wait.

    Now we know why the budget was fixed. We are paying the same players the same money as last season

    Simpleton.
    Simply facts. We conceded 18 goals in the 9 games that Hector and Thomas played in the same back line for us last season. Average 2 a game or 92 in a season.
    Hector will have to be a f*** more fitter to make a dent in that.
    Yet some people are jumping for joy we have the same defenders as last season 
    Christ how deluded some people can be, and how many straws can you clutch at.
    Well he did join us after being without a club after Fulham released him. So from May 2022 to when he signed for us, whilst i'm sure he kept a basic level of fitness, he wouldn't have been playing games and training day in day out. 

    So naturally he will start next season a lot fitter than when he joined us.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,664
    Hector is an excellent signing.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    Southbank said:
    MickeyBennett said:
    Southbank said:
    Fantastic news!!! We are signing the same players who got us to 10th last season. Brilliant. I am buying my season ticket right now. Can't wait.

    Now we know why the budget was fixed. We are paying the same players the same money as last season

    Simpleton.
    Simply facts. We conceded 18 goals in the 9 games that Hector and Thomas played in the same back line for us last season. Average 2 a game or 92 in a season.
    Hector will have to be a f*** more fitter to make a dent in that.
    Yet some people are jumping for joy we have the same defenders as last season 
    Christ how deluded some people can be, and how many straws can you clutch at.
    Spot on.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Quality signing.
    Aside from his class and ability it’s heartening that players clearly like and respect Dean Holden. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Very surprised Hector signed this early in the window. He was asking for decent money. Signing of intent that’s for sure. Class act
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  • nagAddick
    nagAddick Posts: 269
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Very surprised Hector signed this early in the window. He was asking for decent money. Signing of intent that’s for sure. Class act
    Still a chance for a signing tomorrow?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Very surprised Hector signed this early in the window. He was asking for decent money. Signing of intent that’s for sure. Class act
    I believe we will have another in tomorrow. Hector is a big bonus from what I heard. 
    I hear its Alfiee May  Signed 2 weeks ago but only for a month. Now off in holiday for 2 weeks so we wont see him play sadly.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    ButtleJR said:
    At the end of this interview Hector says Holdens going to build a team to get promoted. Assume there's a few players lined up.
    We know there is ?
  • FSLN1
    FSLN1 Posts: 263
    A good signing - we have six weeks to the first league game so he has plenty of time to get fit and have a proper pre-season, last season he looked a bit knackered by the season end, unsurprising since he missed the first half of the season and had hardly played  first team football for a  couple of years prior to that.

    He brings a bit of character and that he took a few weeks to sign on suggests he was possibly talking to one or two other clubs.

     I hope he can pass on some experience to Lucas Ness. 

    We how have a defence for Welling: Egbo-Ness-Hector-Thomas. We just need a bit of depth...
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Todds_right_hook said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????

    go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.

    go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.

    even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.

    chill people, you will make yourselves ill. 
    Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow. 
    Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening! 

    I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.

    if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?

    a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.

    if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
    I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting .  I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short .  JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    wmcf123 said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????

    go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.

    go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.

    even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.

    chill people, you will make yourselves ill. 
    Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow. 
    Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening! 

    I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.

    if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?

    a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.

    if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
    I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting .  I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short .  JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table 
    Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them .. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    RonnieMoore said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????

    go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.

    go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.

    even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.

    chill people, you will make yourselves ill. 
    Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow. 
    Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening! 

    I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.

    if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?

    a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.

    if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
    I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting .  I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short .  JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table 
    Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them .. 
    true.  The excitement to see who is this year’s Bogle or Bonne is palpable . 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    DubaiCAFC said:
    nagAddick said:
    Dubai have u heard anything recently regarding Sess ? Cheers 
    Certainly interested in him, but he was on a good deal at Fulham, we only paid a percentage for his salary last season. I believe we have offered him a contract, will be on of those if it happens will be later in the window, as he is seeing what’s around 

    His good deal at Fulham, no doubt would be astronomical wages for us.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    RonnieMoore said:
    Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs .. 

    You say the opposite to the viewpoint on here, FOR EVERYTHING, what do you get out of it?
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    Redrobo said:
    covered_end_junior said:
    covered_end_junior said:
    Quite a few decent and realistic players out of contact throughout the Championship and League 1.

    Joe Ward - Peterborough - Now at Derby
    Archie Collins - Exeter - Now at Peterborough
    Sam Smith - Camebridge
    Josh Key - Exeter
    Sean Roughan - Lincoln
    Harvey Knibbs - Cambridge - Linked to Reading
    Curtis Nelson - Blackpool - Now at Derby
    Sean Morrison - Rotherham - New deal at Rotherham
    Callum Elder - Hull - Now at Derby
    Harlee Dean - Birmigham
    Gavin Whyte - Cardiff
    Connor Wickham - Cardiff
    Luke Berry - Luton - New deal at Luton 
    Ryan Leonard - Millwall - New deal at Millwall
    Carlos Mendes - Luton
    Tyler Walker - Coventry


    Quite a few of these have been snapped up already, 3 by Derby. 
    IMO Sam Smith should be of interest to us.

    He serves up a decent beer.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    cfgs said:
    golfaddick said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs .. 
    I thought you said that he had a medical & was about to sign. That was 2 weeks ago. 
    Then he was told other things, now he is told this. Not rocket science.

    Hopefully he will get told to play with the traffic.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    Callumcafc said:
    So who’s being announced with tomorrow’s kit launch then?

    Aneke was asked but he was worried on a sprain putting the kit on.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    Garrymanilow said:
    golfaddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?

    Clutching at straws I know… :-)
    That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.

    Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months. 

    Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year  ??  

    Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.

    I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing

    "A player of his pedigree" signing for a divison three club............................
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs .. 

    You say the opposite to the viewpoint on here, FOR EVERYTHING, what do you get out of it?
    Parody account 

    There's a lifer behind it with their own/real account, too

    Somehow gets kicks out of posting in a contrarian manner.

    Once you've seen through it the annoyance stops and it all seems a bit pathetic and childish 
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    golfaddick said:
    We are a laughing stock of a club. Players that have played here before only want to sign for a year. 

    Are we supposed to be happy with that ??  We'll be in the same position this time next year - players out of contract & struggling to build a decent squad.

    Oh well, doesn't take much to keep you lot happy. 
    The only laughing stock is you for these ridiculous and repetitive posts. 
    Still you do draw the attention you seek, I guess.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    edited June 2023
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Never understand the meltdown people have when we ‘miss out’ on a player we were never in for 
    You are playing it down here, we absolutely were in for him. It's a bit different from the usual meltdown when we lose out to another club to a player we didn't actually bid for, this is completely different.

    That was a player that is a top player in the league, who was available and we could have got and it looks like may go to a team in the league below. This is an occasion where people are in their rights to meltdown. 

    It's the same old window, so far, a centre back no one wants, a centre back who has signed an extension after probably being rejected by most championship clubs or league 1 not willing to pay more and a goalkeeper who has about 50 senior appearances at the age of 26, most of which were at non league clubs.

    I actually find Golfies post refreshing on this occasion cause he is right. 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    edited June 2023
    It reads as though some didn't want Hector to stay? Did they complain when he was offered new terms? If not, then why criticise those bigging him up and taking it as good news? I don't mind admitting I thought there was very little chance he'd be here next season from what I'd seen of him, so I'm delighted. 

    If the argument is the defence is porous, perhaps he wasn't the weakest link in it and others should go. One or two have and others will either go or be sent out on loan, so just maybe there are some at the Club who understand what's required on the playing side.

    If we were to get promoted, then we can always offer improved terms next summer and let him consider his opinions then. Of course, we might lose him for a fee in January if an offer we can't refuse comes in, but for now, what's not to like?

    Whether others 'don't want him' is completely irrelevant because we do and know he can do a good job for us. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Encouraging interview with Hector.

    ’We didn’t have the team last season but he’s (Holden) going to build a team to meet that objective (promotion)’

    Presumably Hector’s decision to sign early is partly based on assurances that we’re going to have a go this year. Let’s hope he and Holden haven’t been sold any flannel by the new owners, and Holden is actually given the resources and freedom to build a promotion-winning squad. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    Hector is an excellent addition, I have no qualms really about a one year deal - gives both parties the flexibility that if we got promoted to turn that maybe into a 2yr extension or something. 

    As for what's next , from what's being linked with El Mizouni it's clear we want a box to box energetic midfielder to complement Dobbo and Fraser , and obviously we badly need to address the fullback positions - whether that's another move for Tayo Edun or not obviously remains to be seen. Would be surprised if we're signing anyone on loan yet purely because clubs won't be making decisions on that kind of thing this early unless it's a U23 player from a Prem side. 


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