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I never said the team is exciting. I was pointing out that the small (same bunch every day, every thread) who are talking unnecessarily and stupidly about relegation when the window is open for another 6 weeks that we are better than teams in this league and willl not go down.wmcf123 said:
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid tableTodds_right_hook said:
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!LargeAddick said:
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.Todds_right_hook said:Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
we still have a mid table first team, which will be improved. Dubai said there is a possibility of another in today. The squad is being rebuilt although slower than most want to see but signings are incoming. People just need to chill, enjoy the hot weather and wait and see what happens
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Perhaps we should save the melt downs for if and when it’s ‘has gone’.Braziliance said:
You are playing it down here, we absolutely were in for him. It's a bit different from the usual meltdown when we lose out to another club to a player we didn't actually bid for, this is completely different.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Never understand the meltdown people have when we ‘miss out’ on a player we were never in for
That was a player that is a top player in the league, who was available and we could have got and it looks like may go to a team in the league below. This is an occasion where people are in their rights to meltdown.
Great news about Hector. Icing on the cake would have been a two year deal, but with all the uncertainty around I’ll settle for one.Thomas is a decent back up, but would like to see us sign a proper left back.Ness returning to the level he was at before his injury is key for the defence, as is Egbo staying injury free.1 -
Great news for you Todds… the transfer window:Todds_right_hook said:
I never said the team is exciting. I was pointing out that the small (same bunch every day, every thread) who are talking unnecessarily and stupidly about relegation when the window is open for another 6 weeks that we are better than teams in this league and willl not go down.wmcf123 said:
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid tableTodds_right_hook said:
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!LargeAddick said:
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.Todds_right_hook said:Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
we still have a mid table first team, which will be improved. Dubai said there is a possibility of another in today. The squad is being rebuilt although slower than most want to see but signings are incoming. People just need to chill, enjoy the hot weather and wait and see what happens‘will close at 11pm on Friday 1st September.’
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Isn't the May thing with Gillingham, if it happens, a statement by the owners, equivalent to when Hulyer bought Simonsen, obviously at a much different standard, but a marquee signing for them nonetheless
Let's look on the bright side, once our takeover completes, we might be looking to make one of those ourselves, although what's left on the shelves by then who knows. Need to think outside the box, well the black one anyway😉
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Were we? I don't remember hearing about any Championship offers, certainly not this window. I remember hearing about Championship interest but I never heard of anything materialising from that. I think that's why he's signed early, nothing forthcoming and possibly hearing from higher level teams that they need to see him fit and playing more before they'll be willing to go for him. Here's his chance.LargeAddick said:
Makes sense except we were continually told he had Championship offers.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thinggolfaddick said:
That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.Callumcafc said:He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?
Clutching at straws I know… :-)
Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months.
Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year ??
Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.
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Will probably be a different eleven each half. Lavelle and Chin will likely appear in defence also.FSLN1 said:A good signing - we have six weeks to the first league game so he has plenty of time to get fit and have a proper pre-season, last season he looked a bit knackered by the season end, unsurprising since he missed the first half of the season and had hardly played first team football for a couple of years prior to that.
He brings a bit of character and that he took a few weeks to sign on suggests he was possibly talking to one or two other clubs.
I hope he can pass on some experience to Lucas Ness.
We how have a defence for Welling: Egbo-Ness-Hector-Thomas. We just need a bit of depth...1 -
‘Close’?JamesSeed said:
Great news for you Todds… the transfer window:Todds_right_hook said:
I never said the team is exciting. I was pointing out that the small (same bunch every day, every thread) who are talking unnecessarily and stupidly about relegation when the window is open for another 6 weeks that we are better than teams in this league and willl not go down.wmcf123 said:
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid tableTodds_right_hook said:
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!LargeAddick said:
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.Todds_right_hook said:Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
we still have a mid table first team, which will be improved. Dubai said there is a possibility of another in today. The squad is being rebuilt although slower than most want to see but signings are incoming. People just need to chill, enjoy the hot weather and wait and see what happens‘will close at 11pm on Friday 1st September.’
Sure your terminology is correct?0 -
sorry but this just isn’t true. Maybe for the prem loans but good players move whenever. Pompy Ipswich and Peterborough have all signed good players. This line about ‘waiting’ for the top targets is a load of rubbish - if a club is serious they will pay the money to get their targets and business doneRonnieMoore said:
Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them ..wmcf123 said:
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid tableTodds_right_hook said:
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!LargeAddick said:
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.Todds_right_hook said:Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.5 -
that's see if I understand this right
we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one
we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement
we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game
we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements
we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season
wow that's good isn't it?6 -
I must have missed the announcement that the season is now starting tomorrow and we're playing Orientlancashire lad said:that's see if I understand this right
we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one
we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement
we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game
we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements
we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season
wow that's good isn't it?21 - Sponsored links:
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Still much work to be done.
GK ✔️
Defence ✖️
Midfield / Wings ✖️
Attack ✖️
Still plenty of time and Hectors comments are encouraging but he would say that wouldn’t he.6 -
Why would he say it (or sign) if it wasn't true?ShootersHillGuru said:Still much work to be done.
GK ✔️
Defence ✖️
Midfield / Wings ✖️
Attack ✖️
Still plenty of time and Hectors comments are encouraging but he would say that wouldn’t he.3 -
Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?2 -
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on ChuksPelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB3 -
No better offers on table ? Enjoyed his brief spell with us ? Happy with location ? Naively listened to what Holden said to him ? Decided playing 3very week was better than being on bench in Championship ? I’m sure there are more reasons.redbuttle said:
Why would he say it (or sign) if it wasn't true?ShootersHillGuru said:Still much work to be done.
GK ✔️
Defence ✖️
Midfield / Wings ✖️
Attack ✖️
Still plenty of time and Hectors comments are encouraging but he would say that wouldn’t he.0 -
I imagine that you are about right in terms of positions but maybe not the numbers - I would think at least a few players will be bought in to cover multiple roles - similar to Thomas as cover at LB and CB, probably a player who can play "across the front line" in multiple positions and maybe a utility midfielder too.Pelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?
I personally would prefer to have specialist players in every role but pragmatism and financial sense suggest that is probably not on the cards across the entire squad.0 -
No need to panic . Wrexham haven’t signed anyone despite being linked with everyone.3
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Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️NabySarr said:
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on ChuksPelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB4 -
I still think we need 9.
3 full backs
1 center back
2 center mids
3 forwards
5 of them have to be better than what we have already got.6 -
SLAMS SHUT!seth plum said:
‘Close’?JamesSeed said:
Great news for you Todds… the transfer window:Todds_right_hook said:
I never said the team is exciting. I was pointing out that the small (same bunch every day, every thread) who are talking unnecessarily and stupidly about relegation when the window is open for another 6 weeks that we are better than teams in this league and willl not go down.wmcf123 said:
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid tableTodds_right_hook said:
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!LargeAddick said:
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.Todds_right_hook said:Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
we still have a mid table first team, which will be improved. Dubai said there is a possibility of another in today. The squad is being rebuilt although slower than most want to see but signings are incoming. People just need to chill, enjoy the hot weather and wait and see what happens‘will close at 11pm on Friday 1st September.’
Sure your terminology is correct?
(But tbf I copied and pasted the quote.)3 - Sponsored links:
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Maybe susceptible to injury is a better phrase. He was out for a couple of periods last season missing about 10 games in total, completely understandable at his age but left us light with just Bonne to come in.eastterrace6168 said:
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️NabySarr said:
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on ChuksPelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB1 -
I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
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12 months or nothing at all...I know which ones better.Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...7 -
One year deal is worse than a two year deal but that’s as far as I’d go.Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.This is positive.1 -
Maybe. But even so it's still better than the alternative which currently would put our "senior"/first choice CB pairing as Ness and Lavelle. I think we can agree that would be slightly worse than "disappointing!"Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...1 -
Was he injury prone or were the coaching staff deliberately not overplaying him in his first season?eastterrace6168 said:
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️cks as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB
A lot of young players get overplayed and suffer continual injury problems through their careers. Charlton do seem to have a policy of introducing players young but then not playing them week in/week out. I wonder whether the coaching team were just being careful with a player who's still growing and filling out.
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We play Welling tomorrow, can joke all we want but that's where the season starts so we are ready for our opening game.cafcsinger said:
I must have missed the announcement that the season is now starting tomorrow and we're playing Orientlancashire lad said:that's see if I understand this right
we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one
we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement
we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game
we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements
we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season
wow that's good isn't it?
It really is groundhog day, all the posts on this thread are identical year after year.
We don't sign any of the best performers in the league while rival clubs will and while they do there will be such posts as 'We were never in for him' or 'Most clubs aren't doing business right now'
The clubs who are serious either have their squad ready now or are adding players.
We have the shittest recruitment team in the whole of the EFL in terms of our stature, I am absolutely adamant on that.
Our signings will be, a left back on loan, a winger on loan, a midfielder on loan, one of the three will be our best player like the loans usually are, we will sign cast offs no one else wants and they will be billed as players we have wanted by our pony recruitment team.
We will probably finish in the region of 9th to 14th. Might sack our manager along the way, lose our loans and our players that have one year left and then do it all again next season.
For every player we sign, that isn't crocked, an ex player or someone who is championship/higher end league 1 quality (loans not included) I will donate a tenner to the upbeats10 -
I think he was injured a fair bit while he was with us from 16-18. Which is why he kind of came out of nowhere last pre-season when many thought it would be Kanu getting the opportunities. It was probably due to him growing so much so might be less of an issue now, he’s obviously not Chuks level but I still think he’s likely to pick up a couple of injuries and will need his minutes managedeastterrace6168 said:
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️NabySarr said:
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on ChuksPelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB0 -
It’s exactly why all three of Leaburn, Kanu and now perhaps Casey should all be managed with time playing. I think Miles got a raw deal last year in that respect although to his credit he came through. Doubt either Kanu or Casey are genuine first team options and should in preference both go out on loan. It’s why we need two strikers in to allow for Miles having some respite. If he’s relied on week in week out I can see him picking up injuries and hampering his development.NabySarr said:
I think he was injured a fair bit while he was with us from 16-18. Which is why he kind of came out of nowhere last pre-season when many thought it would be Kanu getting the opportunities. It was probably due to him growing so much so might be less of an issue now, he’s obviously not Chuks level but I still think he’s likely to pick up a couple of injuries and will need his minutes managedeastterrace6168 said:
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️NabySarr said:
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on ChuksPelling1993 said:Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.
Then we do you think we need?
1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB2
