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Sometimes punting really can bite you in the bum and laugh at the same time.
In the 1.40 at Perth I was on the 2/1 favourite, trained by Stuart Crawford, Bleu D'enfer, who led every yard of the race 'til it hit the line at which point a horse called Nowinittowinit, who had come from the clouds, won the race by a short head.
Now we've all been there. But when the winning horse returns an SP of 80/1 and Betfair SP of 274 and therefore a perceived chance of 0.36% of winning, then you know your luck is out. When you then realise that the winner is also trained by Stuart Crawford then, perhaps, it's time to declare before further damage arises! Crawford also had the 9/1 4th.
Only joking - onwards and upwards - but it really is very, very galling when that happens.1 -
Win single or each-way filth on horses (mainly each-way single or sometimes an each-way double).Showmetheway2gohome said:I’ve been betting tricast last couple of weeks only 60p but I’ve won about 5 times and in profit by about £140.I’ve been close 2 out of the 3 places about 8 times.What’s people’s favourite bet that they win with.I normally go for Trixie
When I have time I follow a selection/staking system - maybe two or three options in a given week.
Selection:
- must be favourite but not odds-on
- level weights races only, not handicaps
- must have run, but not won, in the current season
- must be tipped up by the majority of newspaper tipsters
- professional jockey - no claimers
Stakes:
10 points win every race
variation:
10 points win race one in a sequence
if loses stake on race two to win losing stake in race one plus 10 points
if win back to first stage
if loses stake on race three to win losing stakes on races one and two plus 10 points.
The above selection criteria has (or used to have, I don't follow it closely enough now) a 70+% strike rate.
The first option on the staking (flat 10 points win) avoids the escalating stakes on a losing run and if you are backing Evens or better with a 70% strike rate then flat stakes turns a healthy profit with relatively low risk.
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7 selections together - singles, fourfolds, sixfolds and the EW Acca. Heaviest staking on the singles. Selections and races roughly designed for one winner to get at least half of the total stake back, two winners and everything is returned, possibly even a minor profit. Three winners equals a definite profit, four or more and a right result. That's the idea in theory anyway!Showmetheway2gohome said:I’ve been betting tricast last couple of weeks only 60p but I’ve won about 5 times and in profit by about £140.I’ve been close 2 out of the 3 places about 8 times.What’s people’s favourite bet that they win with.I normally go for Trixie0 -
As the Cup Final has now been brought forward to 3.00pm, the Derby will now be run at 1.30pm0
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Absolute joke. Back to the first Wednesday in June please at around 3.45pm (I know it won't happen).Addick Addict said:As the Cup Final has now been brought forward to 3.00pm, the Derby will now be run at 1.30pm5 -
Derby is usually the 4th/5th race on the card so when is the first race?0
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I tend to stick to singles, although recent luck with Cheltenham suggests i should do lucky 15, tbf i haven't really bet on horses until recently as i've had a good run and left it in and just been backing singles/ eachways.0
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First race 12:50, Derby second race at 13:30. Ridiculous.iaitch said:Derby is usually the 4th/5th race on the card so when is the first race?3 -
Oh wow, i go to the derby and will be going. It shouldn't make a huge difference as i get there like 11/12 early (in the stools). Basically a day off drinking for me from getting the train there, hopefully the weather is goodAddick Addict said:As the Cup Final has now been brought forward to 3.00pm, the Derby will now be run at 1.30pm
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Yesterday at Fontwell, didn't get much of a run if you were either of these two.
https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popout/VOD/1349513?showResult=yes
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Train strike too, which is how we all get there so no chance of going this year! Will stick to a local pub and have a few drinks, not quite the same.johnnybev1987 said:
Oh wow, i go to the derby and will be going. It shouldn't make a huge difference as i get there like 11/12 early (in the stools). Basically a day off drinking for me from getting the train there, hopefully the weather is goodAddick Addict said:As the Cup Final has now been brought forward to 3.00pm, the Derby will now be run at 1.30pm0 -
Off to the Derby early tomorrow on our regular coach trip from the local. Hoping the traffic is not going to be too painful.
Send me some tips please.. so I sound like I know what I’m talking about. Thank you!0 -
Yep off to the derby myself tomorrow, leaving at the Morgan in Abbey Wood at 10.30These are my selections:12.50 kolsai1.30 auguste RodinWhite birch2.10 potapova2.45 zuffalo3.20 silkie wilkieLihou3.55 fox journey4.30 max mayhem5.05 Apollo oneStrike red0
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10:30 seems late to me, can see the M25 being a nightmare. I’m playing golf at 12 in Hampshire, so need to take the next turn off to Epsom and we are leaving at 9.0
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@ValleyGary my thoughts exactly but I’m a number on someone else’s arranged bus good thing is it’s got a khazi and we can booze on the coach0
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Happy days. The essentials are there.palarsehater said:@ValleyGary my thoughts exactly but I’m a number on someone else’s arranged bus good thing is it’s got a khazi and we can booze on the coach1 -
Play wellValleyGary said:
Happy days. The essentials are there.palarsehater said:@ValleyGary my thoughts exactly but I’m a number on someone else’s arranged bus good thing is it’s got a khazi and we can booze on the coach0 -
Yes our coach is leaving the Herbert at 8.15, ie now but we go that time every year as our organiser likes to plot up early. So I thought he’d be going even earlier.But between typing that last night and this morning I’m now not going as feeling too rough. Had hoped to shake whatever it is off overnight. Gutted as always a great day out.Ian still gone though. I’ll find out if any traffic problems getting in.0
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I've done Dubai Mile ew in the Derby. Good luck to all.1
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Passenger and dubai mile for me0
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Any interest in Ascot today and the next few days?1
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I am off on Friday to watch it in a pub with friends, however i have gone in today. Depends how i do whether i save for friday or keep it spinning:
Lucky 15 EW:
3.05 Army Ethos
3.40 Manaccan
4.20 Royal Scotsman
5 Ahorsewithnoname
Treble win only:
2.30 Inspiral , 4.20Chaldean, 6.10 Vauban
Singles:
Marshman 3.40 EW
Cash 2.30 EW
Inspiral 2.30 Win
Indestructible 4.20 EW0 -
johnnybev1987 said:I am off on Friday to watch it in a pub with friends, however i have gone in today. Depends how i do whether i save for friday or keep it spinning:
Lucky 15 EW:
3.05 Army Ethos
3.40 Manaccan
4.20 Royal Scotsman
5 Ahorsewithnoname
Treble win only:
2.30 Inspiral , 4.20Chaldean, 6.10 Vauban
Singles:
Marshman 3.40 EW
Cash 2.30 EW
Inspiral 2.30 Win
Indestructible 4.20 EW
Manaccan now a non-runner.1 -
Thanks thats annoying, hopefully i can put another lucky 15 onsuperclive98 said:johnnybev1987 said:I am off on Friday to watch it in a pub with friends, however i have gone in today. Depends how i do whether i save for friday or keep it spinning:
Lucky 15 EW:
3.05 Army Ethos
3.40 Manaccan
4.20 Royal Scotsman
5 Ahorsewithnoname
Treble win only:
2.30 Inspiral , 4.20Chaldean, 6.10 Vauban
Singles:
Marshman 3.40 EW
Cash 2.30 EW
Inspiral 2.30 Win
Indestructible 4.20 EW
Manaccan now a non-runner.0 -
would lose £3 if i cash out and replacejohnnybev1987 said:
Thanks thats annoying, hopefully i can put another lucky 15 onsuperclive98 said:johnnybev1987 said:I am off on Friday to watch it in a pub with friends, however i have gone in today. Depends how i do whether i save for friday or keep it spinning:
Lucky 15 EW:
3.05 Army Ethos
3.40 Manaccan
4.20 Royal Scotsman
5 Ahorsewithnoname
Treble win only:
2.30 Inspiral , 4.20Chaldean, 6.10 Vauban
Singles:
Marshman 3.40 EW
Cash 2.30 EW
Inspiral 2.30 Win
Indestructible 4.20 EW
Manaccan now a non-runner.
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Who had Valiant Force 150/1?0
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iaitch said:Who had Valiant Force 150/1?
Nah but had it at 500 on Betfair. I wish!!!1 -
That was a turn up, must be plenty of confused Americans about.0
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So do I.Addick Addict said:iaitch said:Who had Valiant Force 150/1?
Nah but had it at 500 on Betfair. I wish!!!0 -
Unbelievable that, was 200/1 on paddy power and I thought nahhhh, done valiant king in the next2
