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Italy vs England - Euro 2024 Qualifier
ValleyGary
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Philips apparently starting alongside Rice and Bellingham, with Grealish, Kane and Saka up top.
Looking at the Italy predicted line-up, I don't think I've ever seen a weaker Azzurri side on paper.
A game we should be winning but we all know our record against the Italians.
Looking at the Italy predicted line-up, I don't think I've ever seen a weaker Azzurri side on paper.
A game we should be winning but we all know our record against the Italians.
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Phillips shows the coward in Southgate IMO. It isn't that he is a poor player, of course not but he has attacking midfielders he can play to take the game to Italy. I would have Foden up top and Grealish in midfield with Rice and Bellingham.6
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I wouldn't mind Foden in midfield with Rice and Bellingham, but i presume GS thinking is Philips and Rice allows Bellingham to go forward at will and lets our two full backs push upMuttleyCAFC said:Phillips shows the coward in Southgate IMO. It isn't that he is a poor player, of course not but he has attacking midfielders he can play to take the game to Italy. I would have Foden up top and Grealish in midfield with Rice and Bellingham.0 -
Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..4 -
Eh? He'll be playing in a front 3 for England out wide. A winger.johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..6 -
I assumed you meant up front/ striker, yes i even wrote he plays RW for Arsenal, so maybe i mis-read your original post thenValleyGary said:
Eh? He'll be playing in a front 3 for England out wide. A winger.johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..0 -
'with Grealish, Kane and Saka up top'johnnybev1987 said:
I assumed you meant up front/ striker, yes i even wrote he plays RW for Arsenal, so maybe i mis-read your original post thenValleyGary said:
Eh? He'll be playing in a front 3 for England out wide. A winger.johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..
Grealish --- Kane ---- Saka1 -
Some fans who are over there are not attending the match for safety concerns re threats from the Ultras.
You would have thought that the authorities would give the fans a safe passage. It would seem that they will have to get to the stadium under there own steam; i.e taxi, bus or on foot etc.0 -
On the England supporters page it says travelling members can get coaches going to the stadium.pettgra said:Some fans who are over there are not attending the match for safety concerns re threats from the Ultras.
You would have thought that the authorities would give the fans a safe passage. It would seem that they will have to get to the stadium under there own steam; i.e taxi, bus or on foot etc.
'We can confirm that coaches will be organised by the Italian Authorities for all England Supporters Travel Club ticket holders to make their way to the stadium on match day'
https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2023/Mar/20/Italy-v-England-Important-Ticket-Holder-Information-20230320
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Ah ok,I did not know that and maybe some fans didn't either.ValleyGary said:
On the England supporters page it says travelling members can get coaches going to the stadium.pettgra said:Some fans who are over there are not attending the match for safety concerns re threats from the Ultras.
You would have thought that the authorities would give the fans a safe passage. It would seem that they will have to get to the stadium under there own steam; i.e taxi, bus or on foot etc.
'We can confirm that coaches will be organised by the Italian Authorities for all England Supporters Travel Club ticket holders to make their way to the stadium on match day'
https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2023/Mar/20/Italy-v-England-Important-Ticket-Holder-Information-202303200 -
I get it now, no need to go on ffs i said i must of misread it. Christ extraValleyGary said:
'with Grealish, Kane and Saka up top'johnnybev1987 said:
I assumed you meant up front/ striker, yes i even wrote he plays RW for Arsenal, so maybe i mis-read your original post thenValleyGary said:
Eh? He'll be playing in a front 3 for England out wide. A winger.johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..
Grealish --- Kane ---- Saka0 - Sponsored links:
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England games are on Channel Four now for those who'll be watching.0
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hahaha calm down, im showing you what i meant.johnnybev1987 said:
I get it now, no need to go on ffs i said i must of misread it. Christ extraValleyGary said:
'with Grealish, Kane and Saka up top'johnnybev1987 said:
I assumed you meant up front/ striker, yes i even wrote he plays RW for Arsenal, so maybe i mis-read your original post thenValleyGary said:
Eh? He'll be playing in a front 3 for England out wide. A winger.johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..
Grealish --- Kane ---- Saka0 -
After the very poor Nations League results, we can now call it the curse of Channel Four!ForeverAddickted said:England games are on Channel Four now for those who'll be watching.1 -
Walker - Stones - Maguire - Shaw?0
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wide right in a 3. Isn't that where arsenal play him?johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..
the joke is that England played him at left back a few years ago3 -
If you score zero goals you give Italy a possibility of winning. If you score one goal you give them a possibility of drawing or losing and if you score two you beat them. Put out as an attacking side as possible Southgate FFS!2
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Yes correct, as i previously said my mistake i mis-read the up front as in playing striker... my badTodds_right_hook said:
wide right in a 3. Isn't that where arsenal play him?johnnybev1987 said:Saka up front? I mean why, he is in the form of his life on RW for Arsenal, yet we try him in a new position. Seriously give up, keep trying to put square pegs in round holes, thats worked before?!
joke, i hope..
the joke is that England played him at left back a few years ago
Agree when they moved him at LB when he had played most of the season RM/RW, my first thought was not again! lol0 -
If only football was that simple ehMuttleyCAFC said:If you score zero goals you give Italy a possibility of winning. If you score one goal you give them a possibility of drawing or losing and if you score two you beat them. Put out as an attacking side as possible Southgate FFS!3 -
thank you, michael owen.MuttleyCAFC said:If you score zero goals you give Italy a possibility of winning. If you score one goal you give them a possibility of drawing or losing and if you score two you beat them. Put out as an attacking side as possible Southgate FFS!10 -
I can tell you that Italy lack goalscorers and that is their weakness against stronger sides. It is blindingly obvious if you take an interest in them which I do being half Italian. I support England of course and want us to win.0
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If England score a goal and Italy doesn’t then England will win 🤓4
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I’m keeping my head down in Lake Como today. Heard it’s where all the ultras congregate 😂0
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Looking forward to the game hopefully a good win for us going for 3-1 England
As for the ultras the Italian police have made some arrest to break up any plans they had
but they will be out looking for our fans guaranteed
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Surprised the Italian FA chose Naples. Always thought it was like the Liverpool of England and tried to separate itself from the rest of the country.1
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Yep, having spent a month in Naples with a football crazy family running a pizza/bistro, they told me they were Neapolitan’s first, Italian’s second.ValleyGary said:Surprised the Italian FA chose Naples. Always thought it was like the Liverpool of England and tried to separate itself from the rest of the country.
Although convinced the authorities decided on Naples because of the extreme passion generated there.
As an aside, their pizza’s were the best I ever tasted! Better than the ‘celebrated’ Neapolitan pizza parlours.2 -
So to recap...
If there are no goals, it's a draw
If they score one and we score none, they win
If they score none and we score one, we win
If we both score the same amount, it's a draw
If they score more than one and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than one and we do, we win
If they score more than two and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than two and we, we win
If they score more than three and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than three and we do, we win….
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It's a wonder managers play defenders at all isn't it. Hell, we should drop the keeper and play an extra striker. Three goals! They won't know what hit them!MuttleyCAFC said:If you score zero goals you give Italy a possibility of winning. If you score one goal you give them a possibility of drawing or losing and if you score two you beat them. Put out as an attacking side as possible Southgate FFS!
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Is Phillips even fit?!0
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Looking forward to this. Expect it will be a tight game, and a draw is my prediction.
Both teams know they can qualify from the group by winning the majority of games they have against the likes of Macedonia and Malta (though I’m aware Italy slipped up against Macedonia before).
1-1 I reckon1 -
So what if England score 5 which includes a Kane hat trick and Italy eat a pizza?Macronate said:So to recap...
If there are no goals, it's a draw
If they score one and we score none, they win
If they score none and we score one, we win
If we both score the same amount, it's a draw
If they score more than one and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than one and we do, we win
If they score more than two and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than two and we, we win
If they score more than three and we don't, they win
If they don't score more than three and we do, we win….0
