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Prices seem to vary so much by area - I live in Northern Ireland, about 30 minutes from the border with ROI, I filled up this week at £1.48 in a town near the border, in my town the prices are around £1.57-60 for the last week or so. I haven't seen a pump at or around £1.80 for at least a month, maybe longer.CheshireAddick said:On a slightly different subject. Today I paid £1.63 per litre of diesel from an independent garage, our local Asda is charging £1.80.I'm starting to think that we are getting the piss takn out of us regarding fuel. Surely the government needs to start taking urgent action to manage this cost of living crisis. Think we need an uprising 😤0 -
stevexreeve said:
Surely it is in our interest though to have enough money to pay for a decent NHS. Half our kids will get cancer in their life-time and they deserve better.ShootersHillGuru said:
The VAT revenues are naturally spent where the government see fit but the higher the prices the greater the VAT revenues. They (we) are skint and keeping VAT receipts as high as possible as long as possible is very much in the government’s interest.valleynick66 said:
The government don’t make money. It’s all spent on public services.ShootersHillGuru said:
The government will drag out any intervention for as long as possible. They are making money out of the high prices.CheshireAddick said:On a slightly different subject. Today I paid £1.63 per litre of diesel from an independent garage, our local Asda is charging £1.80.I'm starting to think that we are getting the piss takn out of us regarding fuel. Surely the government needs to start taking urgent action to manage this cost of living crisis. Think we need an uprising 😤It’s indirect tax. That’s all.
I don't really believe the government put VAT receipts into their coffers so they can spend it on garden parties and expensive holidays!
I realise that governments don’t have any intention of pissing tax receipts up the wall (Johnson’s excepted) but when the country is groaning under the burden of, well, high prices on everything, then it is within the government’s ability to relieve some of that pressure on households and businesses by means of easing the tax burden on absolute essentials. It can be a short sharp intervention in the expectation of things naturally improving or something else but doing nothing shouldn’t be an option. Winter hasn’t really kicked in yet and I think when it does a there will be a lot of very angry worried people.valleynick66 said:
Exactly. The government isn't a profit centre. It spends all that it gets and borrows more. Ultimately for our collective benefit (whatever party is in power).stevexreeve said:
Surely it is in our interest though to have enough money to pay for a decent NHS. Half our kids will get cancer in their life-time and they deserve better.ShootersHillGuru said:
The VAT revenues are naturally spent where the government see fit but the higher the prices the greater the VAT revenues. They (we) are skint and keeping VAT receipts as high as possible as long as possible is very much in the government’s interest.valleynick66 said:
The government don’t make money. It’s all spent on public services.ShootersHillGuru said:
The government will drag out any intervention for as long as possible. They are making money out of the high prices.CheshireAddick said:On a slightly different subject. Today I paid £1.63 per litre of diesel from an independent garage, our local Asda is charging £1.80.I'm starting to think that we are getting the piss takn out of us regarding fuel. Surely the government needs to start taking urgent action to manage this cost of living crisis. Think we need an uprising 😤It’s indirect tax. That’s all.
I don't really believe the government put VAT receipts into their coffers so they can spend it on garden parties and expensive holidays!
When it becomes too expensive for Joe public / demand tapers etc. they will need to react - but that will then require tax to be raised elsewhere.
But back on topic - prices at the pumps appear to have dropped a little in the last week it seems.1 -
valleynick66 said:stevexreeve said:ShootersHillGuru said:valleynick66 said:ShootersHillGuru said:CheshireAddick said:On a slightly different subject. Today I paid £1.63 per litre of diesel from an independent garage, our local Asda is charging £1.80.I'm starting to think that we are getting the piss takn out of us regarding fuel. Surely the government needs to start taking urgent action to manage this cost of living crisis. Think we need an uprising 😤The government will drag out any intervention for as long as possible. They are making money out of the high prices.The government don’t make money. It’s all spent on public services.It’s indirect tax. That’s all.The VAT revenues are naturally spent where the government see fit but the higher the prices the greater the VAT revenues. They (we) are skint and keeping VAT receipts as high as possible as long as possible is very much in the government’s interest.Surely it is in our interest though to have enough money to pay for a decent NHS. Half our kids will get cancer in their life-time and they deserve better.I don't really believe the government put VAT receipts into their coffers so they can spend it on garden parties and expensive holidays!Exactly. The government isn't a profit centre. It spends all that it gets and borrows more. Ultimately for our collective benefit (whatever party is in power).When it becomes too expensive for Joe public / demand tapers etc. they will need to react - but that will then require tax to be raised elsewhere.But back on topic - prices at the pumps appear to have dropped a little in the last week it seems.Today it's still 180.7 in our local Asda, not come down at all over the last 2 or 3 weeks. No need as there isn't any real competition . Compared to 163.5 I paid in Wrexham where there is competition from Independents.
I still think the government should step in a control the price for the next 12 months.0 -
Well of course intervention would be welcome and appreciated by us all.But purely based on the budget it seems they believe they can’t afford to as the support on our bills is to be withdrawn / scaled back.I see no prospect of that changing (unfortunately) until the Ukraine situation improves. It’s crap it really is.0
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Minus temperatures for the next week in the south east and colder elsewhere.
A long cold spell is going to cripple people on their bills, really feel for those who won't be able to avoid to heat their homes adequately5 -
We really need to wake up to what’s happening in this country.6
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A report by BOXT.ShootersHillGuru said:We really need to wake up to what’s happening in this country.
The same BOXT [Bosch/Worcester boilers] who are desperately flogging new energy saving boilers?0 -
That work on gas.MrWalker said:
A report by BOXT.ShootersHillGuru said:We really need to wake up to what’s happening in this country.
The same BOXT [Bosch/Worcester boilers] who are desperately flogging new energy saving boilers?0 -
Thus not paying the highest electricity prices in the world, I’m not saying the reports wrong, but the source is hardly free from bias.ShootersHillGuru said:
That work on gas.MrWalker said:
A report by BOXT.ShootersHillGuru said:We really need to wake up to what’s happening in this country.
The same BOXT [Bosch/Worcester boilers] who are desperately flogging new energy saving boilers?2 -
Most homes in U.K. are gas fired central heating. Not much of the electricity used domestically can be laid at the door of gas central heating. I don’t really see an angle for BOXT to push an agenda pointing out high electricity prices to promote sales of their gas boilers.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Thus not paying the highest electricity prices in the world, I’m not saying the reports wrong, but the source is hardly free from bias.ShootersHillGuru said:
That work on gas.MrWalker said:
A report by BOXT.ShootersHillGuru said:We really need to wake up to what’s happening in this country.
The same BOXT [Bosch/Worcester boilers] who are desperately flogging new energy saving boilers?0 - Sponsored links:
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I went to Denmark this week and i noticed that diesel was cheaper than petrol and both were cheaper than what I pay in South London.1
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I thought I'd bump this thread after a week of extremely cold weather.
As like others I'm sure I've had some rooms heated and others not if not using them.
But is it any good for your health?
Now have chesty cough and shivers.
I could be going from one room that's 20c odd out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea in a room that might be 13c at times.
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Paid an eye watering £26 on Tuesday for gas and electric. To be fair it wasn't helped with the wife leaving the underfloor heating on 25 degrees in the conservatory overnight grrr. Still been around £20 each day since Sunday. Ridiculas, I feel so sorry for those people who cannot afford it, it must be so worrying
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I've been running up between £12 & £19 daily this week.1
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£15 a day thereabouts all this week.0
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I’m about £15 a day too this week. 4 bed detached house about 2200 square foot. That’s being sensible with heating as well, but having 3 kids means the washing machine and tumble dryer are permanently on0
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Champs85 said:I’m about £15 a day too this week. 4 bed detached house about 2200 square foot. That’s being sensible with heating as well, but having 3 kids means the washing machine and tumble dryer are permanently onOurs is 4 bed detached too. Had a really bad cold this week but next week the bloody heating is going down a few degrees!!0
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£322 so far this month, so £20 a day, but mostly been WFH and I like it warm. 5 bed 2700 sqft, cavity wall insulation and a brand new boiler. It'd be triple that with the old boiler.0
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I said to the wife tonight "get your coat".
She said "why, are you taking me out?"
I said no "I'm going out and I'm turning the heating off".
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Have caved this last week and had the heating on nearly all day (just with the Hive on around 16), previously I've just been putting more jumpers on etc. but my Son has been off sick so couldnt justify keeping him in the cold, and its now the Christmas Holidays for the next two weeks.
As a result was a bit scared to look @ my Gas Usage this last week, so pleasantly surprised to see £14 is the most I've been charged, and that was partly because I forgot I had Hive on manually, and forgot to turn it off - Doesnt bother me too much in the long run though, getting a wood burning stove installed next month, so hopefully that'll bring the Gas usage back down even more so0 -
It's difficult to keep it in context.Rob7Lee said:£322 so far this month, so £20 a day, but mostly been WFH and I like it warm. 5 bed 2700 sqft, cavity wall insulation and a brand new boiler. It'd be triple that with the old boiler.
If commute to London it costs me about £25 even if I use my senior railcard. Usually an extra fiver for lunch or a coffee.
Still cheaper for me to WFH and keep warn even in the coldest moments!1 -
What do you do if you don't think your cavity wall insulation isn't working!
Jokes aside, Had it done two years ago and I think it's made absolutely no difference to my usage. I had it put in during the summer so obviously couldn't tell straight after I'd had it done.
Cost me nothing but can this kind of thing be tested?0 -
Ask them if they'll take it out and then put it back in so you can run a comparison.2
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I keep all the house warm .. there again I am on a fixed tariff, not rock bottom but far better than the Govt fixed lowest rate .. my sympathies, I have come down with the first heavy cold I have had for years, I hate the thought of having to move from warm to cold rooms .. keep as warm as possible clb no point in getting sick to save a few quid .. I suggest setting the empty room's temperature at around18-20c if you can, obviously better than 13c .. next week's forecast is for warmer weatherclb74 said:I thought I'd bump this thread after a week of extremely cold weather.
As like others I'm sure I've had some rooms heated and others not if not using them.
But is it any good for your health?
Now have chesty cough and shivers.
I could be going from one room that's 20c odd out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea in a room that might be 13c at times.
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Bunging the heating on for a couple of hours in the morning to take the chill off then again about four pm for an hour or two then from then till bed time it's the wood burner on full blast.1
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Have you considered setting fire to the rooms you don’t use?clb74 said:I thought I'd bump this thread after a week of extremely cold weather.
As like others I'm sure I've had some rooms heated and others not if not using them.
But is it any good for your health?
Now have chesty cough and shivers.
I could be going from one room that's 20c odd out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea in a room that might be 13c at times.
A. No loss, you don’t use them
B. You get to warm the remainder of your house for free.
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Cheers LincsLincsaddick said:
I keep all the house warm .. there again I am on a fixed tariff, not rock bottom but far better than the Govt fixed lowest rate .. my sympathies, I have come down with the first heavy cold I have had for years, I hate the thought of having to move from warm to cold rooms .. keep as warm as possible clb no point in getting sick to save a few quid .. I suggest setting the empty room's temperature at around18-20c if you can, obviously better than 13c .. next week's forecast is for warmer weatherclb74 said:I thought I'd bump this thread after a week of extremely cold weather.
As like others I'm sure I've had some rooms heated and others not if not using them.
But is it any good for your health?
Now have chesty cough and shivers.
I could be going from one room that's 20c odd out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea in a room that might be 13c at times.1 -
They do get used ROTW.R0TW said:
Have you considered setting fire to the rooms you don’t use?clb74 said:I thought I'd bump this thread after a week of extremely cold weather.
As like others I'm sure I've had some rooms heated and others not if not using them.
But is it any good for your health?
Now have chesty cough and shivers.
I could be going from one room that's 20c odd out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea in a room that might be 13c at times.
A. No loss, you don’t use them
B. You get to warm the remainder of your house for free.
Win Win
The small bedroom is the wife's office in the week.
Bedroom 2 is the laundry room.
Kitchen/diner does as well at times.
I'm a lounge man myself so spend most time in there.
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Ok, fair enough.
Fit a dynamo to the exercise bike.1
