Chuks Aneke - speculation re 2023/24 season (p60)

MuttleyCAFC said:

No point paying up his contract. He will end up going somewhere and getting significant game time knowing our luck. We have to try to get as many minutes out of him as possibe. There are no other options.

There is an option: concentrate solely on getting him fit enough to pass one of these "fitness tests" we hear so much about.   Flog him off for any money at all to the first sucker prepared to match his salary expectations.  We know for damn sure that 3 matches in to his next "return" he'll be back on the physios table - that table needs to be at any other club.

se9addick said:

Billy_Mix said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

No point paying up his contract. He will end up going somewhere and getting significant game time knowing our luck. We have to try to get as many minutes out of him as possibe. There are no other options.

There is an option: concentrate solely on getting him fit enough to pass one of these "fitness tests" we hear so much about.   Flog him off for any money at all to the first sucker prepared to match his salary expectations.  We know for damn sure that 3 matches in to his next "return" he'll be back on the physios table - that table needs to be at any other club.

Can’t imagine there’s a barge pole in England that any other club would touch Aneke with. 

Bowyer took him in full knowledge of his inadequacies
We know Skintgaard doesn't listen to what he doesn't want to hear but there are no rumours of dissenting voices when he came back.  Rose tinted specs are freely available all over football and remain popular.  I'm not saying we should hold out for any sort of fee.

cabbles said:

The anticipation this week re; an update on his injury is palpable after we found out he was running on grass last week.  Will it be 

- continuing to make progress and taking it slow, we mustn’t rush him back

- taking part in some light contact work 

- no update

- Chuks felt a tweak somewhere so as a precaution we’ve quarantined him at home and told him to wait until spring next year, just to be on the safe side 

The last one but in addition have extended his contract to allow for the extra recovery time required.

AndyG said:

It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo

TS and his son do make up 50% of the recruitment team , that I think has been a big problem.

AndyG said:

It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo

Although he did come with a bad injury history. Before we signed him in January, Aneke had not missed that many games at all in the 18 month stretch before that. In hindsight it was a bad move, but if he’d had the same 18 months fitness wise that he had before we signed him then it would have been a great move. At the time I was happy we re-signed him and still am as when used correctly he’s brilliant. But the contract length was worrying, mainly because Aneke is a very good league 1 player, but he’s not a championship player. So a 3 year contract to me did not say we were thinking we’d be out of league 1 in 3 years 

SDAddick said:

AndyG said:

It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo

The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 

The thing is, does a fit Chuks actually fit the system either?

Maybe he does better than Stockley, but do we really expect him to be charging around closing people down, etc - especially with his injury record?

Out for another week at least. Laughing stock of a club. 

Gravesend_Addick said:

It's so frustrating because Chucks would make such a difference to us, but he's either made of glass or scared

I really think his problem might be mental rather than physical now, in which case he'd be better off retiring for his own wellbeing 

But not for his bills

Off_it said:

SDAddick said:

AndyG said:

It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo

The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 

The thing is, does a fit Chuks actually fit the system either?

Maybe he does better than Stockley, but do we really expect him to be charging around closing people down, etc - especially with his injury record?

I agree. He has been most effective coming on for 30 minutes in a front 2. There is nowhere he would work in the 433 lineup Garner favours.
In fact the only player I can think of in the past few years who would fit that system is Lyle Taylor, mobile and can score. Maybe Grant as well. In a year it could be Leaburn if we have not blown him up by then by overplaying him.

guinnessaddick said:

He’s had his calf injury so long, it will so become a cow injury.

Better that than a bullock injury

Mendonca In Asdas said:

Hoping he’ll get a hat trick off the bench today.

Didn't Garner say he was still out?

Mendonca In Asdas said:

Hoping he’ll get a hat trick off the bench today.

Hoping he will make the bench..... some day.