Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

Garrymanilow said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Exiled_Addick said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Jac_52 said:

Cafc43v3r said:

addick1956 said:

Covered_End_Lad said:

When I see stats like this which seems quite often,  it seems most strikers are called that because they are on strike.

You won't find a lower League striker that regularly gets 20 goals a season, because they wouldn't be a lower League striker.

Billy Sharpe is the only player that has scored 20, or more, League 1 goals twice in the last decade.

Even more reason not to sign Stockton 😉

Reckon Clarke-Harris is in with a shout of doing it if he isn't sold tbh or is that stat for consecutive seasons?

It's just stats.  They normally either get promoted or sold.  

Billy has done it twice in consecutive seasons.  For Scunthorpe and Sheffield United.  Did it twice under that no nothing good for nothing Adkins as well.....

But the first 2 were over a decade ago.  Clarke-Harris is within a shout. 

True, but what it shows is teams aren’t usually able to go a buy a “proven” 20 goal a season striker, so neither should we be expected to. 

Any striker we are able to bring in will be a bit of a punt and/or just because Stockley hasn’t done it before doesn’t mean he couldn’t this season. 

Exactly these are the last 4 seasons worth... 

It's rare air, even the one that did it we were linked to no one wanted. 

Go back a little further and a certain Nicky Ajose would find his way onto that list. Don't recall him getting quite as many in League One for us the next season..

He got more than 25% of his career goals in one season.  I can't believe he is still only 30.

Not difficult to believe that clubs like Derby & Sheffield Wednesday who get double our crowds have a bigger budget compared to us. Similar not a shock that our budget is probably bigger than Wycombe & MK. 

charlton_hero said:

Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich and Barnsley will all have bigger budgets. Possibly even Pompey, Peterborough and Wycombe too. 

I’ll have an educated guess that we have 6th/7th largest budget now, unless cut of course and I reckon you are on the money @charlton_hero

Quite why an owner of a club would be happy to discuss their financial arrangements with other owners is a mystery to me. Doing business would be made much harder if another club know you have a lot of money available as opposed to money being tight. 

Suspect we're in the top 6, but I suspect the likes of Derby, Wednesday and Ipswich are spending big, Peterborough I'm not sure, always feel they spend well, but sensibly. 

Pompey and Barnsley I suspect we're in the ballpark, and Wycombe have spent, but not massively, and are heavily reliant on their owners pumping the cash in. 

But it's a budget that should allow us to be competitive in this league 

addick1956 said:

So that is where we are. Fucking Wycombe could have a bigger budget than us . There average attendance is a4 blokes , a dog and 30 sheep in the pasture at the cack of the 

Budgets are calculated on No of sheep at the ground? 

Cafc43v3r said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Quite why an owner of a club would be happy to discuss their financial arrangements with other owners is a mystery to me. Doing business would be made much harder if another club know you have a lot of money available as opposed to money being tight. 

They submit them to the EFL who then distribute them.

Thanks but why ? 

charlton_hero said:

Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich and Barnsley will all have bigger budgets. Possibly even Pompey, Peterborough and Wycombe too. 

I would Imagine Bolton’s is bigger this season too. I think when you consider , our gate receipts must be in the top 6 , the income we have had from player sell ons due to having the best academy in the league and the fact Thomas is supposed to be worth a bob or two then it’s easy to feel our budget isn’t what it perhaps should be.

Saying that there there part of it where I think it’s very sensible trying to run the club in a sustainable way. It does make just slightly frustrated when the likes of Derby, Wigan, Bolton and Sheffield have basically cheated by over spending and not being sensible but then when they do get new owners they are seemingly doing the same thing again

Best we can hope for is a strong loan for a striker - ideally someone that can hold the ball up and run channels / be a threat in behind , like the guy with pink hair used to.  Ideally someone that can play left or right too

wmcf123 said:

Best we can hope for is a strong loan for a striker - ideally someone that can hold the ball up and run channels / be a threat in behind , like the guy with pink hair used to.  Ideally someone that can play left or right too

Why is it the best we can hope for exactly? 

addick1956 said:

CH4RLTON said:

Cafc43v3r said:

CH4RLTON said:

charlton_hero said:

Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich and Barnsley will all have bigger budgets. Possibly even Pompey, Peterborough and Wycombe too. 

I would Imagine Bolton’s is bigger this season too. I think when you consider , our gate receipts must be in the top 6 , the income we have had from player sell ons due to having the best academy in the league and the fact Thomas is supposed to be worth a bob or two then it’s easy to feel our budget isn’t what it perhaps should be.

Saying that there there part of it where I think it’s very sensible trying to run the club in a sustainable way. It does make just slightly frustrated when the likes of Derby, Wigan, Bolton and Sheffield have basically cheated by over spending and not being sensible but then when they do get new owners they are seemingly doing the same thing again

It's two completely different things.

Your gate receipts basically say how much your allowed to spend.

The generosity, or other wise, of the owner says how much you can spend.

We lose money before we even pay the players, Accrington don't lose money after they have paid them.

There is no sensible way to run Charlton in league 1.  The only consideration is how much you lose and how quickly.

I agree but I get the impression Thomas feels he can make money in this division somehow however deluded that might be.

That won't  last long because we won't  pay for moribund drifting in this division.  Customers  tend to be more mobile these days and our 'success ' is wearing thin for my liking .

Please take your custom elsewhere. I insist.

RC_CAFC said:

What all these stats prove is that how a player fits our system is far more important than what they have done in the past. 

We’re clearly waiting for the right person to be available which is the right call for me.

What cheap, loan or free being the right person under TS budget.

Smithy said:

Sheffield Wednesday are sponsored by their owners company so will have a significantly inflated income through that. 

Why can’t Zynex sponsor us?

wmcf123 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

wmcf123 said:

Best we can hope for is a strong loan for a striker - ideally someone that can hold the ball up and run channels / be a threat in behind , like the guy with pink hair used to.  Ideally someone that can play left or right too

Why is it the best we can hope for exactly? 

Because we clearly don’t have the money to buy a good league 1 striker . 

You're right. 

WE don't have the money for anything. 

Thomas Sandgaard however, will be willing to find the money as he's shown a few times.

Everyone* wanted Stockley permanently and we paid a reasonable fee for him and he's done reasonably well for us, though it is now clear that his hip/back condition has severely hampered him. 

(*except me, I didn't like his lack of running, but prior to his injury last season he showed more willing)

charlton_hero said:

Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich and Barnsley will all have bigger budgets. Possibly even Pompey, Peterborough and Wycombe too. 

Barnsley have nothing. Despite having a rich owner they do everything based on actual income as the owner doesn't want to put anything in, and at last check they were £8m in the red despite selling their best players and signing basically no decent players. Going to be a tough year for them if they don't do some good work before the window closes