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Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!9
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Well done to everyone who made sure the shit in opposition in 2019 did not win.4
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I think you meant opium!Big_Bad_World said:
Yeah, we were awful. I was also there. It was a day full of hopium.bobmunro said:
I was at the Stoke game and they did not look good, and that was against a piss poor Stoke team.Big_Bad_World said:
6 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss in our last 9 gamesguinnessaddick said:
Think BBW is watching his, still that’s better than watching the spanners.MrWalker said:
That's OK, mine boils water much quicker than that.Big_Bad_World said:Boiling a kettle now costs 87p per hour, up from 49p yesterday.
Strange game for me (in a box full of spanners!) - one where you want both teams to lose!!0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:What’s going completely under the radar it seems to me is the fact that standing charges are going up across the country by an average of around 81%. Why ? The inability to supply gas and electricity cheaply is understandable but what’s changed in standing charges which pay for the cables and pipes etc that warrants such a massive increase and at a time when the uncontrollable aspects of energy are causing people to not heat their homes. What the fuck are Offgem or whatever the regulator is called these days doing ? Eff all is the answer.Puzzled me too, it's something to do with all the energy companies going bust with the remaining picking up the pieces, supplier of last resort was one phrase used. However, once they have absorbed any extra costs, will the charge go down, will it feck !
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TellyTubby said:We have typically paid around £1200 pa for electricity via Bulb and £1500 for heating oil from whoever is the cheapest at the time.
Our last fill of oil, only one company was prepared to take the order from our syndicate and only then if we agreed to take it without a quote as normal. The delivery of 748 litres was about 3 weeks ago and we still don't know how much we will be charged.
I've heard from others that the cost, if correct is likely to increase our annual heating bill around £1500 to £2000pa if the cost was the same for the whole year.
There is no price regulation for us 1.7m oil users.
There are plenty of people local to us on very low incomes, this type of increase in outgoings could be devastating.
Three weeks ago I was quoted £1.26 a litre, earlier this week it had dropped to 96p
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Boiler wise I replaced a very old (maybe 40 years old) Potterton floor mounted the size of a washing machine for a Valliant Ecotec 37kw boiler. I also had the tanks removed from the loft and run a pressurised system with a 350l megaflo (so all hot and cold are mains pressure fed) all in one of the garages. The tanks insulation is incredible, it'll keep the water piping hot for over 24 hours.TellyTubby said:
Sounds like win.Rob7Lee said:I've got LED/Hue/smart lights throughout, also with a number of sensors.
I have a little button by the front door that also turns everything off for the last person out, or if they forget then I can do so from my phone/internet. With the cost of all the lights though it'll probably be a 15 year pay back
I'm pleased to say that since getting a new boiler/heating system my cost has gone down over 2/3rd's - so after the latest price increase it should still half from what it was.
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So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!6 -
All political parties in this country are as shit as each other. All bullshit what they promise to do and then shaft us all down the road in the long run.thickandthin63 said:
So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!2 -
Never been any different no matter what country you live in,thats why blaming voters for todays problems on the elected government is crap.Just be thankful we live in a democratic country and have the power to change things.shirty5 said:
All political parties in this country are as shit as each other. All bullshit what they promise to do and then shaft us all down the road in the long run.thickandthin63 said:
So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!2 -
What about that bloke Derek Hatton. Imagine if he was prime minister.thickandthin63 said:
So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!3 - Sponsored links:
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Add Angela Rayner to that list as well.thickandthin63 said:
So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!1 -
I think we can all acknowledge that in that scenario we would still be in lockdown and supplying Putin with arms to support his defence against those militant Ukrainiansthickandthin63 said:
So Corbyn and Diane Abbott would have handled,Brexit,The Pandemic,Energy crisis,and the Russian war better.She couldnt even work out how much we paid police officer without cocking it up.jacob_CAFC said:Well done to everyone who voted for this shower of shit in 2019, hope you are happy with your choice!0 -
Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.0 -
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used0 -
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used0 -
I went for Givenergy batteries as the are set up for Octopus who I'm with as well mate. The agile tariff isnt available at the moment because of the wholesale prices but I'm on their Octopus Go tariffChaz Hill said:
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used0 -
As soon as energy prices settle down I want to change supplier,at presant with EDF.Not by choice it was because my previous supplier went bust.
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How far away are solid state batteries? I'm not up on the tech but everything I hear is that as soon as these hit the market they will blow everything else out the water in terms of efficiencies, cost, practicalities, storage etc.AndyG said:
I went for Givenergy batteries as the are set up for Octopus who I'm with as well mate. The agile tariff isnt available at the moment because of the wholesale prices but I'm on their Octopus Go tariffChaz Hill said:
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used
Wouldn't want to invest a hell of a lot in a battery right now only for it to be obsolete in not very long0 -
Thanks for the info re the Givenergy batteries. Not too badly priced compared to some. We’re on an Octopus fixed rate until August so planning ahead at this stage. Our feed in tariff from the panels pays us between £600-700 a year so can’t complain.AndyG said:
I went for Givenergy batteries as the are set up for Octopus who I'm with as well mate. The agile tariff isnt available at the moment because of the wholesale prices but I'm on their Octopus Go tariffChaz Hill said:
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used0 -
Well played CharlieChaz Hill said:
Thanks for the info re the Givenergy batteries. Not too badly priced compared to some. We’re on an Octopus fixed rate until August so planning ahead at this stage. Our feed in tariff from the panels pays us between £600-700 a year so can’t complain.AndyG said:
I went for Givenergy batteries as the are set up for Octopus who I'm with as well mate. The agile tariff isnt available at the moment because of the wholesale prices but I'm on their Octopus Go tariffChaz Hill said:
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used0 - Sponsored links:
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All down to the wife. She’s the organised one.shirty5 said:
Well played CharlieChaz Hill said:
Thanks for the info re the Givenergy batteries. Not too badly priced compared to some. We’re on an Octopus fixed rate until August so planning ahead at this stage. Our feed in tariff from the panels pays us between £600-700 a year so can’t complain.AndyG said:
I went for Givenergy batteries as the are set up for Octopus who I'm with as well mate. The agile tariff isnt available at the moment because of the wholesale prices but I'm on their Octopus Go tariffChaz Hill said:
The smart meter has been invaluable in maximising usages of the energy generated from the solar panels and we are with Octopus who have an agile tariff. Which batteries did you opt for?AndyG said:
They are mate yes and if you are looking at using them just with Solar it doesnt stack up as you will never charge them enough but if u have a smart meter and you energy co has a smart tariff then they do.Chaz Hill said:Looks like this thread has just about run it’s course…..
We invested in solar panels a few years back. A great investment as it turns out. Just wondering about buying a battery to store the surplus electricity we generate but they are still a bit pricey.
I charge mine overnight at 7.5p a kw and then use the batteries to run things during the other times when my tariff is 32p so I save 25p a kw used
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remember that a chunk of your bill is going to bail out the customers let down by these near criminals .. how did the government let them get away with it ?
Boss of failed energy firm Bulb defends £250,000 salary - BBC News
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I am not sure what makes them near criminal? I certainly did notice the difference in calibre of the two failed companies in that article Vs the established companies though...Lincsaddick said:remember that a chunk of your bill is going to bail out the customers let down by these near criminals .. how did the government let them get away with it ?
Boss of failed energy firm Bulb defends £250,000 salary - BBC News
The regulation of that sector is completely short of what is needed and the government should strengthen this ASAP. I remember looking at it years ago and not understanding how some companies can buy at spot price when there is a price cap, it was so obviously set for failure if there was a sudden price surge.0 -
My brother just got a cheque delivered to his French home from the French government this morning for €184 to offset fuel price rises.
It's related to the tax he paid.
I'm guessing less tax paid=bigger cheque.
The UK could do with adopting this policy.2 -
I'd have agreed until my recent experience of tradesmen and their desire for Cash!MrWalker said:My brother just got a cheque delivered to his French home from the French government this morning for €184 to offset fuel price rises.
It's related to the tax he paid.
I'm guessing less tax paid=bigger cheque.
The UK could do with adopting this policy.1 -
Martin Lewis’s latest advice about switching or not switching your provider.
https://twitter.com/martinslewis/status/1519330254707437569?s=21&t=j1VkfZP5oipMICcksjpxsQ
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This is going to be a massive crisis come next winter. The prices go up again in October and many people are just not going to be able to afford to heat their homes. It seems to me the government are sticking their heads in the sand on this issue unless they genuinely don’t care. Unless there is quite a significant intervention I can see big problems ahead.7
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The price cap is set against the wholesale gas price which has actually dropped since January, even until now. Obviously not sure how this may change with Russia's actionsShootersHillGuru said:This is going to be a massive crisis come next winter. The prices go up again in October and many people are just not going to be able to afford to heat their homes. It seems to me the government are sticking their heads in the sand on this issue unless they genuinely don’t care. Unless there is quite a significant intervention I can see big problems ahead.
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What is the purpose of government if it is unable or unwilling to do what is required in order for its people to live. Food prices rising. Petrol rising, Energy off the scale. Inflation rising. Wages unable to keep up. I know the magic money tree has been well shaken recently but unless something significant is done over the next few months I think people will be very unhappy. I would hope a package will be put in place by the autumn. It almost looks like there is no plan and like Mr. Micawber they are relying on something turning up.3
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That's a bit unfair SHG, they're giving us all £200.
That will do sod all for most people.
That we have to pay back somehow.
As you were.....1
