Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

Oggy Red said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Oggy Red said:

oohaahmortimer said:

I think he’s implyIng that Fraser wasn’t prepared to graft it out and wait his turn at Ipswich and he’s spinning that line to the Ipswich public as you’d expect .
Fraser was pony for Ipswich when we tore them a new one in JJ’s golden era , as opposed to when he was at MK and he ran the show against us 

I thought I read somewhere he just didn't fit into the new shape and system their new manager brought in.

The old manager played him in a number of different poistions/roles.  Not if which were identical to the one he played at Burton and MKD. 

I believe that was the problem though - I read that in 20 appearances, Fraser only played his own specialist position 3 times.
The other times he was shunted out to LW, etc

That's exactly my point, even if he played in exactly the same position but was asked to do different things.

You need very square pegs in very square holes, well at least 8 or 9 of them.  Very few league 1 plays are very good in more than 1 hole. 

Dave Rudd said:

I like this kind of signing.  Young enough with some pedigree, but with the potential to improve.

One word of warning ... my Dundee United mate (and, yes, I have one) thinks that Fraser is a good technical player, but can get bullied out of games.  He is not a physical player.

It would explain why Pratley snuffed him out that time.

So, Fraser will need a 'minder' alongside him.  I'm not sure we have someone like that. 

I don't think necessary, he will need a minder, more like available options around him.  He moves the ball on quickly so if he has players finding space and making themselves available he's less likely to get clobbered. 

Brighton Addick said:

Good interview and I’ve got great hopes for him. But again this highlights the mercenary side of football when he talks about basically giving up for half a season at Burton as he knew he was moving on. I guess we’d all do it at our workplace, and it shows lots of players see playing as also just a job. Bit depressing really! 

To be fair, it just says he wasn’t really picked after refusing to sign a new contract. Bowyer did the same with Philips and I’d be happy to do that with Burstow for the rest of this season. They could have just been planning for the year ahead. Doesn’t mean he stopped trying.

Entertaining four minutes but the best but has to be Pearce & Fraser’s appearance towards the end. Stockley looks well too.

With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 

Brighton Addick said:

Good interview and I’ve got great hopes for him. But again this highlights the mercenary side of football when he talks about basically giving up for half a season at Burton as he knew he was moving on. I guess we’d all do it at our workplace, and it shows lots of players see playing as also just a job. Bit depressing really! 

That’s not really true though is it. He wouldn’t sign a new contract so they didn’t play him. Not exactly giving up is it?

Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:

oohaahmortimer said:

With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 

Haha, it is a concern isn't it.
He fit perfectly in MKs quick, incisive, fluid passing game.
Has he walked into a team of wayward passing, brain dead stasis or clodhopping bungling?
Oh me of little faith!

Jackson has said in the past, he is a fan of the Russell Martin style of play and wants Charlton to play in a similar high press possession style.

Definitely a good move to get the best in the league at it. I’m really excited to see him play.

Leuth said:

Oh he's good at dribbling past players? That's interesting. The case for replacing our beloved headless chicken increases yet further 

Didn’t expect you to turn on Lee so quickly.

Oggy Red said:

oohaahmortimer said:

I think he’s implyIng that Fraser wasn’t prepared to graft it out and wait his turn at Ipswich and he’s spinning that line to the Ipswich public as you’d expect .
Fraser was pony for Ipswich when we tore them a new one in JJ’s golden era , as opposed to when he was at MK and he ran the show against us 

I thought I read somewhere he just didn't fit into the new shape and system their new manager brought in.

Fraser was played wide left at Ipswich which would be like playing Conor Washington wide left and expecting him to score 1 goal in 3 games. At least we have a manager now that reads my emails 🤦🏻‍♂️

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Callumcafc said:

https://twitter.com/clubgame_app/status/1400754712530595842?s=21

That definitely has a lot to do with the way MK Dons were playing at the time. There was this crazy stat during that season.

Probably more down to the fact their keeper hangs onto the ball so much. Remember the game at the valley last year and he must've had more touches than any other player! We just sat off and let him dribble it around! Crazy stat though, and they do play some nice football tbf

Fraser was the primary set piece taker at both MK and Burton.  He has been here only a week.   Once Fraser is settled into the club he most likely will be starting. The argument is really between Albie and Gilbey.  Albie is better in a slower possession oriented style but is poor defensively.  Gilbey covers more ground and is better in a high tempo style.  Neither can finish.  My guess is having Fraser in the squad lessens the likelihood of Albie starting eventually since Albie’s best attribute is set pieces but it might come down to who is in the best form.  Either way it is nice to have options and different styles available between Fraser/Lee/Gilbey/Albie.   That is a very good group for midfield.  Bigger concern is if Dobson goes down we are stuck either playing Watson or playing another midfielder out of position.