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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

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  • Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oggy Red said:
    I think he’s implyIng that Fraser wasn’t prepared to graft it out and wait his turn at Ipswich and he’s spinning that line to the Ipswich public as you’d expect .
    Fraser was pony for Ipswich when we tore them a new one in JJ’s golden era , as opposed to when he was at MK and he ran the show against us 
    I thought I read somewhere he just didn't fit into the new shape and system their new manager brought in.


    The old manager played him in a number of different poistions/roles.  Not if which were identical to the one he played at Burton and MKD. 
    I believe that was the problem though - I read that in 20 appearances, Fraser only played his own specialist position 3 times.
    The other times he was shunted out to LW, etc


    That's exactly my point, even if he played in exactly the same position but was asked to do different things.

    You need very square pegs in very square holes, well at least 8 or 9 of them.  Very few league 1 plays are very good in more than 1 hole. 
  • That's a great interview.

    We've been crying out for a playmaker like him and everyone would love it for him to become the 'main man' in the spine of the team.

    It appears that he is massively motivated to help us get promotion as getting to the Championship will mean that he will likely get the chance to play for his country which is his main ambition; fair play to him....hopefully he'll be wowing the Tartan Army before long and we'll be in the second tier.  Win-win!

    I've got a good feeling about this; he could end up being a crucial piece of the jigsaw when it comes to getting us back where we belong.

    Good luck Scott!
  • Dave Rudd said:
    I like this kind of signing.  Young enough with some pedigree, but with the potential to improve.

    One word of warning ... my Dundee United mate (and, yes, I have one) thinks that Fraser is a good technical player, but can get bullied out of games.  He is not a physical player.

    It would explain why Pratley snuffed him out that time.

    So, Fraser will need a 'minder' alongside him.  I'm not sure we have someone like that. 
    I don't think necessary, he will need a minder, more like available options around him.  He moves the ball on quickly so if he has players finding space and making themselves available he's less likely to get clobbered. 
  • Good interview and I’ve got great hopes for him. But again this highlights the mercenary side of football when he talks about basically giving up for half a season at Burton as he knew he was moving on. I guess we’d all do it at our workplace, and it shows lots of players see playing as also just a job. Bit depressing really! 
  • Good interview and I’ve got great hopes for him. But again this highlights the mercenary side of football when he talks about basically giving up for half a season at Burton as he knew he was moving on. I guess we’d all do it at our workplace, and it shows lots of players see playing as also just a job. Bit depressing really! 
    To be fair, it just says he wasn’t really picked after refusing to sign a new contract. Bowyer did the same with Philips and I’d be happy to do that with Burstow for the rest of this season. They could have just been planning for the year ahead. Doesn’t mean he stopped trying.
  • edited February 2022
    Entertaining four minutes but the best but has to be Pearce & Fraser’s appearance towards the end. Stockley looks well too.

  • I think Fraser must’ve been wary of an initiation wind up..!
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  • That definitely has a lot to do with the way MK Dons were playing at the time. There was this crazy stat during that season.


  • With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 
  • With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 
    Haha, it is a concern isn't it.
    He fit perfectly in MKs quick, incisive, fluid passing game.
    Has he walked into a team of wayward passing, brain dead stasis or clodhopping bungling?
    Oh me of little faith!
  • Good interview and I’ve got great hopes for him. But again this highlights the mercenary side of football when he talks about basically giving up for half a season at Burton as he knew he was moving on. I guess we’d all do it at our workplace, and it shows lots of players see playing as also just a job. Bit depressing really! 
    That’s not really true though is it. He wouldn’t sign a new contract so they didn’t play him. Not exactly giving up is it?
  • Oh he's good at dribbling past players? That's interesting. The case for replacing our beloved headless chicken increases yet further 
  • With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 
    Haha, it is a concern isn't it.
    He fit perfectly in MKs quick, incisive, fluid passing game.
    Has he walked into a team of wayward passing, brain dead stasis or clodhopping bungling?
    Oh me of little faith!
    Jackson has said in the past, he is a fan of the Russell Martin style of play and wants Charlton to play in a similar high press possession style.

    Definitely a good move to get the best in the league at it. I’m really excited to see him play.
  • RC_CAFC said:
    With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 
    Haha, it is a concern isn't it.
    He fit perfectly in MKs quick, incisive, fluid passing game.
    Has he walked into a team of wayward passing, brain dead stasis or clodhopping bungling?
    Oh me of little faith!
    Jackson has said in the past, he is a fan of the Russell Martin style of play and wants Charlton to play in a similar high press possession style.

    Definitely a good move to get the best in the league at it. I’m really excited to see him play.
    That's interesting. The case for replacing our beloved headless chicken decreases yet further :wink:
  • Leuth said:
    Oh he's good at dribbling past players? That's interesting. The case for replacing our beloved headless chicken increases yet further 
    Didn’t expect you to turn on Lee so quickly.
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    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Oh he's good at dribbling past players? That's interesting. The case for replacing our beloved headless chicken increases yet further 
    Didn’t expect you to turn on Lee so quickly.
    He hasn't he has replaced Dobson with him after his 1 day being retrained at the school of Leuth. 
  • RC_CAFC said:
    With the supreme touch , control and comfortableness of our players on the ball he’ll be more than at home 
    Haha, it is a concern isn't it.
    He fit perfectly in MKs quick, incisive, fluid passing game.
    Has he walked into a team of wayward passing, brain dead stasis or clodhopping bungling?
    Oh me of little faith!
    Jackson has said in the past, he is a fan of the Russell Martin style of play and wants Charlton to play in a similar high press possession style.

    Definitely a good move to get the best in the league at it. I’m really excited to see him play.
    Me too
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  • edited February 2022
    Oggy Red said:
    I think he’s implyIng that Fraser wasn’t prepared to graft it out and wait his turn at Ipswich and he’s spinning that line to the Ipswich public as you’d expect .
    Fraser was pony for Ipswich when we tore them a new one in JJ’s golden era , as opposed to when he was at MK and he ran the show against us 
    I thought I read somewhere he just didn't fit into the new shape and system their new manager brought in.




    Fraser was played wide left at Ipswich which would be like playing Conor Washington wide left and expecting him to score 1 goal in 3 games. At least we have a manager now that reads my emails 🤦🏻‍♂️
  • Was surprised when he replaced Morgan, that he didnt replace him on set pieces.

    Especially given his assist count.

    Might be one slight concern going forwards, we cross the ball so much, and win so many corners as a result.

    Morgan ultimately seems the only player in the team who is capable of supplying a decent dead ball.
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    That definitely has a lot to do with the way MK Dons were playing at the time. There was this crazy stat during that season.


    Probably more down to the fact their keeper hangs onto the ball so much. Remember the game at the valley last year and he must've had more touches than any other player! We just sat off and let him dribble it around! Crazy stat though, and they do play some nice football tbf
  • Was surprised when he replaced Morgan, that he didnt replace him on set pieces.

    Especially given his assist count.

    Might be one slight concern going forwards, we cross the ball so much, and win so many corners as a result.

    Morgan ultimately seems the only player in the team who is capable of supplying a decent dead ball.
    I have been complaining most of the season that we needed a left footed set play specialist since JFC was injured tbf Arter wasn't too bad at this aspect but other areas of his game meant that he couldn't hold down a regular place.

    Yesterday I noticed that Fraser consulted with Gilbey a couple of times at set plays but the position better suited a right footed player.

    This is an area where Scott's signing really excited me so I am looking forward to seeing what he can do. 
  • Fraser was the primary set piece taker at both MK and Burton.  He has been here only a week.   Once Fraser is settled into the club he most likely will be starting. The argument is really between Albie and Gilbey.  Albie is better in a slower possession oriented style but is poor defensively.  Gilbey covers more ground and is better in a high tempo style.  Neither can finish.  My guess is having Fraser in the squad lessens the likelihood of Albie starting eventually since Albie’s best attribute is set pieces but it might come down to who is in the best form.  Either way it is nice to have options and different styles available between Fraser/Lee/Gilbey/Albie.   That is a very good group for midfield.  Bigger concern is if Dobson goes down we are stuck either playing Watson or playing another midfielder out of position.
  • Fraser was the primary set piece taker at both MK and Burton.  He has been here only a week.   Once Fraser is settled into the club he most likely will be starting. The argument is really between Albie and Gilbey.  Albie is better in a slower possession oriented style but is poor defensively.  Gilbey covers more ground and is better in a high tempo style.  Neither can finish.  My guess is having Fraser in the squad lessens the likelihood of Albie starting eventually since Albie’s best attribute is set pieces but it might come down to who is in the best form.  Either way it is nice to have options and different styles available between Fraser/Lee/Gilbey/Albie.   That is a very good group for midfield.  Bigger concern is if Dobson goes down we are stuck either playing Watson or playing another midfielder out of position.
    Very good post. Agree with what you say

    As good as he is in his current role, I think Clare is the only option to come in for Dobson should something happen to him. Especially now Lavelle is back fit again. 
  • YTS1978 said:
    That definitely has a lot to do with the way MK Dons were playing at the time. There was this crazy stat during that season.


    Probably more down to the fact their keeper hangs onto the ball so much. Remember the game at the valley last year and he must've had more touches than any other player! We just sat off and let him dribble it around! Crazy stat though, and they do play some nice football tbf
    Thanks for jogging my memory. I couldn’t remember which club it was. It was one of the restricted crowds matches wasn’t it? 
    Yes, they had a good system which meant that to press them you needed an extra player, because the keeper was so comfortable on the ball. 
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