Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Bolton Wanderers | Tuesday 28th September 2021

cafcsinger said:

Elliot Lee looks a luxury player, don't rate him - spends most of the game on the floor

kentred2 said:

Another thing to note I think is the lack of quality players that have come through the academy in recent years. Only Davison in last night’s squad and though he works hard he’s not what we are used to. 

It is things like that which are a hangover from the Duchatalet nightmare that Sandgaard has to fight with. 

Cafc43v3r said:

Lordflashheart said:

Ben18 said:

RonnieMoore said:

The score line don’t really reflect the game .. first half we were excellent best home performance of the season .. our movement was good … then a bad mistake by the ref for their goal McG clearly had a player in an offside position in his eye line and it’s 1-1 .. totally undeserved by Bolton .. second half again end to end very even game looked like a draw .. then a deflected effort finds its way into our goal .. straight down the other end and we are centimetres from going 2-2 with Washington lob ( that goes in if your top of the league ) … Late on a third and another offside goal for the 4th … 

but it far far from a poor performance and like Gillingham , Pompey we showed we can play but we need a little luck to go our way a d the right decisions made by officials 

Come on then, lets have a laugh,

"then a bad mistake by the ref for their goal McG clearly had a player in an offside position in his eye line and it’s 1-1"

The player that jumps over the ball is a good yard onside, as shown below.




"deflected effort finds its way into our goal"

It's a free shot from 12 yards out. The angle on the replay showed it was heading for the other corner, so going in regardless.



"another offside goal for the 4th"

You can see from the cut of the grass, that Lavelle is playing the Bolton player onside comfortably.





I though the referee was poor, for what its worth. But not particularly in either team's favour.

Bang on - I watched the goals on Sky last night and was freezing the screen to see whether they were bad decisions, and low and behold they were perfectly ok goals 

The top one every single Charlton player in the frame is out of position.  That is shocking by any standards. 

The bottom one is slightly more forgivable in that we were chasing the game but again the whole back line is out of position. 

valleynick66 said:

Airman Brown said:

valleynick66 said:

Airman Brown said:

robroy said:

All this talk of another protest smacks of a toddlers tantrum to me. 

We can’t keep bloody protesting every time we get a run of bad results. It’s embarrassing on and off the pitch. Some of the drivel and venom I’ve read on Twitter is sickening. People being very abusive to TS. 

As for last night I opted to save my £10 and read the match thread. Having watched the highlights it’s the basics yet again we fail to do in defence. 

The middle of the park is a stroll. 

The alarm bells should have rang for everyone when Morgan was given the number 10.

“All this talk”? It’s just a bloke with a meaningless Twitter handle who is so in touch with events that he doesn’t even know Rotherham is an international weekend. Laughable. 

Sandgaard, of all people, knows what the fans are saying. I don’t personally see any point in giving Adkins Fleetwood, but I’d sack him regardless of the result. This structure doesn’t work - too many mistakes in the window, too many mistakes on the pitch. Results will bring it down. It’s only a question of when.

So if its the structure (and not disagreeing necessarily) - why will getting rid of NA work? Aren't you  suggesting the way TS /GR/NA work is the root issue and hence until that set up changes any new manager will also fail?

Change the structure and not the manager maybe?

I think Adkins has lost all credibility and that won’t just be with the fans. Replacing him may not work, but I think it’s more likely to work than more of the same. We need to bring in someone who can call the shots and is in charge, accountable only to the owner. There’s no role for someone sitting in the background whispering in Sandgaard’s ear, especially if they don’t have a background in club management.

I think (I don't know) that TS may believe he needs to be strong and NOT sack him & try to promote the long term stability line. But it depends on who else (apart from GR) is whispering in his ear and may validate that the players have lost faith in NA.

Potentially GR is advising to do nothing as he helped identify NA and it reflects on him too?

Leuth said:

YTS1978 said:

PWR as its all too painful! We are such a fragile side its a joke! Once that 2nd went in we were fucked. No lack of effort in the first hour but then we just fell apart and gave up. Mightily pissed off still. Can't believe Nige is still in a job today tbh. Was saying after the game that we need a sergeant major type manager to whip this lot into shape, even if its just a short term deal. We are in real danger of getting relegated I fear. Tommy needs to act fast.

We don't need this, we need a lord of doom. We need John Yems

Dave Rudd said:

bobmunro said:

KingKinsella said:

Lordflashheart said:

Pelling1993 said:

I think the saddest thing is I've never been less interested in Charlton. Barely even got a reaction from me when they started thumping us. Couldn't even be bothered to go last night I just stayed at home. Fallen out of love with football massively, never thought I'd say that.

I went through what you are feeling during the Dowie season - took a few years to get the passion back I can tell you…..

I left during early part of Chris Powell reign- Gary Doherty did a back header that striker ran on to and scored- and I didn't go back until Taylor-Grant combo  linked up. Missed the whole Powell promotion season- if it doesn't bring you joy get rid
and I still don't regret missing it.
Still signed in for the moment......

That can be said for many things in life, but regrettably not when it comes to the life long supporting of a football club. It is impossible to 'get rid' even though the thought very briefly crossed my mind at about 10.00pm last night.

A moment of weakness @bobmunro.  We forgive you.

We almost didn't get there last night ... no petrol and a long trip from the Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire borders.

But my lad came up trumps.  I am the World's worst car passenger, but a powerful sedative and a decent journey meant that we got to The Valley in good time.

We then got soaked, and thoroughly miserable.  The car steamed up on the return journey and we plodded Northwards over partially-flooded roads.  The final part of our trip home involved a detour due to road closures and a furtive scurry down country lanes and forgotten by-ways.

My lad got home well after midnight.

But I'm glad we were there.  For those who us who love this Club ... while results like last night's break our hearts ... being there is part of what it is all about.

Shared pain ... but we will enjoy the good times (for there will be good times) all the more for nights like last night.

I have endured this feeling a hundred times before ... maybe a thousand times before.  But I don't care.  I'm glad that we made it last night.

And I am glad that this is my Club and that my lads were there with me.

EveshamAddick said:

While not wishing to make excuses, I do wonder what impact the appalling weather had in that. Lots of goals going in at other games in League 1 last night.

LenGlover said:

Simonsen said:

Big chance missed by Washington at 1-2 (the lob just past the near post). I like him and his off the ball movement but he needs a lot of chances.

Didn't look like our goalie made much of an effort for Bolton's first goal. Think he's got to save that one (he looked similarly suspect at Wycombe). But maybe I'm expecting too much from a Div 3 keeper. 

Deano explained that on Charlton TV. He said the keeper was watching the Bolton player between the goalscorer and the goal in case he deflected it. Hence the late movement.