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England v Denmark - Wembley Stadium - Wednesday 7th July 8pm KO - Match Thread
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Some quality replies from all around the world to this tweet.1
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I thought it was a penalty in real time, and can see why it wasn't overturned by VAR.
Feel a bit sorry for the Danes, but then had a think about the amount of times we have suffered from appalling decisions/luck in
major tournaments, and realised that we were due a bit of luck!!
1982 - WC - eliminated having never losing a game, and conceding ONE goal!
1986 - WC - Hand of God!!
1990 - WC - lose on penalties
1993 - WC Qualifying away to the Dutch - outrageous Koeman non sending off.
1996 - EC - lose on penalties
1998 - WC - Beckham sent off/Campbell goal disaallowed
2002 - WC - Ronaldinho 'that' free-kick
2004 - EC - Rooney playing out of his skin gets crocked in QF at 1-0 up, and we lose on penalties
2006 - WC - lose on penalties
2010 - WC - Lampard Germany disallowed goal (about two feet over the line)
2012 - EC - lose on penalties
2016 - EC - Iceland!! (Neither bad luck or poor decisions here, but it still feels worse than all of the others!)
2018 - WC - lose on penalties
I can't recall another major nation consistently under-delivering in major tournaments, and when you think back at the players that we have produced since the 1980's it is truly astonishing that we haven't managed to get to a final before this!!
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The below tactic is currently illegal under the existing FIFA laws of the game and should’ve resulted in Denmark’s goal being disallowed.6
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Obviously gutted, but you thoroughly deserved it in the end.Part of me is relieved that we lost it fair and square.Would've been even harder to cope with, if we lost it after penalties.Still, painful to lose in extra time. Will take a few weeks to get over this one.Good luck on Sunday.
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Wasn’t even a dive. Not in the true sense. I don’t particularly like it, but all over the pitch now players are basically coached to feel contact and go down. You see it from defenders just as often as attackers. The contact wasn’t heavy but it was there. Until referees start giving fouls even if a player doesn’t end up on the floor it will continue.As for Denmark being robbed, it was one way traffic from about 75 minutes, and Denmark barely threatened in the second half even before England got totally on top. There was no way the wrong team won, even if England got a bit of luck to get over the line - they made that luck by constantly knocking on the door.9
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Lost in extra time in 2018 semibrownbear said:I thought it was a penalty in real time, and can see why it wasn't overturned by VAR.
Feel a bit sorry for the Danes, but then had a think about the amount of times we have suffered from appalling decisions/luck in
major tournaments, and realised that we were due a bit of luck!!
1982 - WC - eliminated having never losing a game, and conceding ONE goal!
1986 - WC - Hand of God!!
1990 - WC - lose on penalties
1993 - WC Qualifying away to the Dutch - outrageous Koeman non sending off.
1996 - EC - lose on penalties
1998 - WC - Beckham sent off/Campbell goal disaallowed
2002 - WC - Ronaldinho 'that' free-kick
2004 - EC - Rooney playing out of his skin gets crocked in QF at 1-0 up, and we lose on penalties
2006 - WC - lose on penalties
2010 - WC - Lampard Germany disallowed goal (about two feet over the line)
2012 - EC - lose on penalties
2016 - EC - Iceland!! (Neither bad luck or poor decisions here, but it still feels worse than all of the others!)
2018 - WC - lose on penalties
I can't recall another major nation consistently under-delivering in major tournaments, and when you think back at the players that we have produced since the 1980's it is truly astonishing that we haven't managed to get to a final before this!!
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Ha ha - yup - cant really complain about that one then!!0
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So pleased for my boy (and the rest of you) who never seen England in a final, enjoy yourselves on Sunday.7
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Pickford worries me, his kicking last night was bloody terrible! Position for their fk wasn't great either.LawrieAbrahams said:
Pickford had a shocker.lordromford said:
Hate to be negative, but Pickford was not superb tonight.Valley11 said:Walker, Maguire, Rice, Shaw and Sterling were the pick for me but all superb. Bring on Italy.
That was my only negative though. I agree the rest of them were superb.1 -
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If we win and everyone else isnt struggling in that meeting mate, then they're Italians Scottish!!cafcfan1990 said:Posting without reading, mainly because I'm incapable of reading much. Wasn't pretty but we needed to go 1 down to pass the test. Slightly fortunate, don't really care, in the final, absolutely fuming I have an incredibly important work meeting at 9am on Monday.
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For England, this tournament has been all about laying some ghosts to rest. I’ve never felt so confident about a final. Whatever happens we have got plenty to look forward to for the future of English football.2
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We won thats all that matters,but,I thought the Grealish Trippier swap was a disaster waiting to happen,once grealish went off,we invited them on,and virtually gave up up any thought of a 3rd goal.They had plenty of corners with some big lads,all managers do it,but why give the other team the initiative.7
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62% it’s coming home
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Maguire was an absolute rock, and Shaw has been one of our best players this tournament.Valley11 said:Walker, Maguire, Rice, Shaw and Sterling were the pick for me but all superb. Bring on Italy.
But like you say they were all superb, so many good performances. Walker got through a lot of work, Sterling was still running in the 115th minute like it was the first, Saka was quality, Rice excellent.0 -
Denmark were finished when they conceded the penalty, we were all over them. If it wasn’t the penalty it would’ve been something else. I mean… we even missed the penalty, so I’m not sure what salty foreigners are complaining about.3
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This is untrue. The Trippier sub was excellent. Grealish was sacrificed because we needed pace on the counter to go with our solidity and Foden and Sterling provide that with speed and invention in a way Grealish doesn’t. Denmark were always going to attack in that second half and we set ourselves up to control, absorb and counter to push the ball up the pitch. Trippier was now there to both defend and use his fresh legs to drive up the pitch when in possession. Walker was now a spare man to do the same more centrally as the tired Danes couldn’t get near his pace. It was an exemplary piece of game management. It wasn’t a disaster waiting to happen because...nothing happened, as expected. We had multiple opportunities to score a third but preferred to hold the ball and drag the Danes around rather than risk giving them the ball. It amazes me that even now we’ve got to a final only conceding one free kick goal there are still armchair commentators pointing out ‘mistakes’ the manager has made at times when his choices got us to where we are. Mystifying.thickandthin63 said:We won thats all that matters,but,I thought the Grealish Trippier swap was a disaster waiting to happen,once grealish went off,we invited them on,and virtually gave up up any thought of a 3rd goal.They had plenty of corners with some big lads,all managers do it,but why give the other team the initiative.23 -
Trippier was pretty constantly involved in a positive way when he came on.7
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Tough game, we worked hard for that and deserved the win.There was so much negativity about Southgate before and during those first few games (everywhere, not meaning just here). Other than after the Scotland game I felt we always had a good chance of doing well and some expectations were unrealistic - we can’t and don’t need to dominate for 90 minutes and constantly play free flowing attacking football. Southgate’s decisions and set up have worked.
Looking forward to Sunday and I expect the same team we saw against Germany with a back 3/5. It’ll be another tight game, we’re good enough to finish the job and long overdue a tournament win.4 -
Oh wow just seen the Kane penalty shout. Forget the Sterling call - that was stonewall so frankly we deserved a break!7
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Exactly, that was a pen but wasn’t overturned for reason I get, and the same happened with Sterling.DamoNorthStand said:Oh wow just seen the Kane penalty shout. Forget the Sterling call - that was stonewall so frankly we deserved a break!
we battered them from about the 60th minute, they were going for penalties from then on, and if I was being critical, we should have killed them off in the 90.
saying that, supreme game management in the second half of ET, that bit where we kept the ball for 3 minutes was what teams have done to us for years
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Yea but Denmark waz robbedDamoNorthStand said:Oh wow just seen the Kane penalty shout. Forget the Sterling call - that was stonewall so frankly we deserved a break!0 -
Callumcafc said:The below tactic is currently illegal under the existing FIFA laws of the game and should’ve resulted in Denmark’s goal being disallowed.
The attacking players shouldn't be closer than one yard from the wall when the free kick is taken.I would like to see the frozen picture as Damsgaard strikes the ball and how far the attackers are from the wall.
Standing in the gap means there is a blind spot for the keeper as long as they are one yard or further from the defensive wall (3 players or more) this is allowed.
Pickford's position seems textbook.
Damsgaard strike was superb in a tournament bereft of brilliant free kicks.1 -
So long as it's a CLEAR & OBVIOUS error that is the only time VAR should change a decision. Both of those last night were handled correctly following the initial decision IMO.Rothko said:
Exactly, that was a pen but wasn’t overturned for reason I get, and the same happened with Sterling.DamoNorthStand said:Oh wow just seen the Kane penalty shout. Forget the Sterling call - that was stonewall so frankly we deserved a break!
we battered them from about the 60th minute, they were going for penalties from then on, and if I was being critical, we should have killed them off in the 90.
saying that, supreme game management in the second half of ET, that bit where we kept the ball for 3 minutes was what teams have done to us for years2 -
Said yesterday that it was a dive by Sterling but having watched it again this morning it wasn't. Definitely caught his hip. Still got lucky the ref didn't stop play for the second ball on the pitch but that's his issue.1
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Rulebook says that play should only stop if the other ball interferes with playTalal said:Said yesterday that it was a dive by Sterling but having watched it again this morning it wasn't. Definitely caught his hip. Still got lucky the ref didn't stop play for the second ball on the pitch but that's his issue.
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Didn't realise that but I think a lot of refs would've stopped play regardless as it was in that area of the pitch.ForeverAddickted said:
Rulebook says that play should only stop if the other ball interferes with playTalal said:Said yesterday that it was a dive by Sterling but having watched it again this morning it wasn't. Definitely caught his hip. Still got lucky the ref didn't stop play for the second ball on the pitch but that's his issue.
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Good to know there will be no complaints when little Insigne goes down in the box when he gets between Stones and Maguire in the final.
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No I didnt either, I thought that the ref had simply used his initiativeTalal said:
Didn't realise that but I think a lot of refs would've stopped play regardless as it was in that area of the pitch.ForeverAddickted said:
Rulebook says that play should only stop if the other ball interferes with playTalal said:Said yesterday that it was a dive by Sterling but having watched it again this morning it wasn't. Definitely caught his hip. Still got lucky the ref didn't stop play for the second ball on the pitch but that's his issue.
I didnt even notice the other ball until the images this morning
Otherwise we'd be seeing fans throwing balls on to the pitch every time the opposition got near the penalty area.
Not that Charlton fans would ever dream of throwing anything on to the pitch.5 -
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It's all really quite emotional. I won't lie, I was proper choked up at the final whistle.8
