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Messi’s contract

MrOneLung
MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
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No wonder Barca are in financial trouble

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/lionel-messi-barcelona-contract-details-674-million-earnings-leaked-by-spanish-paper-in-bombshell-report/
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    That is bonkers. 

    I know they have been in financial difficulties before but how do they get out of this and stay a members club?

    I doubt there is currently any appetite for the city/regional/national government to bail them out, like has happened to Real Madrid in the past? 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    Eye watering numbers, but for the sake of balance I’d be keen to understand roughly how much revenue he has generated back for Barcelona.

    I’m not referring to just goals/trophies - but the shirt sales, tickets, overseas interest, sponsors etc. He must have made them an absolute fortune.

    I went to Nou Camp 2 years ago to do a tour, and you get the feeling that many of the other people doing it are there in some way because Messi is the driving force in their interest of the club.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Wait so Messi is half the clubs debt?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    edited January 2021
    That's a crazy contract no question but...........how much is he worth to them in revenue?

    In their most recent results, Deloitte again announced Barcelona as the worlds richest club, with revenue of over 700m, a fall from the 820m it was before Covid struck. As a club they are worth over 3 billion.

    How much of those figures are down to Messi?

    Let's not also forget that he asked to leave at the end of last season, which would have saved them his 138m a season wage and you'd have assumed also saved them some of the 77m loyalty bonus. Despite their ridiculous debt levels, they fought to keep him, so that alone shows you how much they feel he's worth to them.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    Dazzler21 said:
    Wait so Messi is half the clubs debt?
    Probably half their revenue too!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,141
    Would now be the appropriate time for us to pay them the £200k they let us off from the Simonsen fee , way back when we were skint .
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    They were willing to pay him that 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    I must admit my feelings on the £ players get for playing football is ridiculous. However I remember watching a documentary about Beckham when he went for fortunes a week. The program looked at what he actually brought in to the club in terms of commercial revenues via shirt sales etc. It was eye watering and that changed my opinion on the top players, if the bring in additional revenues then they fully deserve the money. I would imagine Messi would also attract vast sums of income so he deserves it. I can see that where I dont get how across the board a player at top level can consider £80 - 100k average, and then you have the players like Ozil, Sanchez etc £300k + a week for not playing for months
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    Naturally many will look at this and straight away think 'Messi has crippled Barcelona', but if anything their transfer deals for Griezmann, Dembele and Coutinho have done more harm. Almost 400m in transfer fees for 3 players who have rarely performed well for them. 
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    I was listening to the superb Price of Football podcast this week and heard something which actually trumps this situation.

    Fenerbache in Turkey have just signed Mesut Ozil from Arsenal, which is by far the most high profile signing in Turkish football history.

    However, in the past week they have put out an appeal to fans to make donations in order to fund Ozil’s wages.....

    Fenerbache are over £430m in debt (!!!), and are not a Champions League, revenue monster like Barcelona. 

    Makes the Messi/Barca situation seem sensible in comparison!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    church-lane said:
    Probably rules us out of getting him this window
    How can we make it work within the cap?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    As long as the other 2,710,650 players are on £1 a year....
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    church-lane said:
    Probably rules us out of getting him this window
    Never mind the cap he fails the CL height test 😉.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    church-lane said:
    Probably rules us out of getting him this window
    How can we make it work within the cap?
    Smyth being recalled and selling Bogle and Williams should make some room. Until the window is closed we have a chance.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    church-lane said:
    Probably rules us out of getting him this window
    How can we make it work within the cap?
    To work within the cap i think he'd have to play for free for 51 weeks of the year and the rest of the squad could earn about 50p a year.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,017
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    church-lane said:
    Probably rules us out of getting him this window
    How can we make it work within the cap?
    To work within the cap i think he'd have to play for free for 51 weeks of the year and the rest of the squad could earn about 50p a year.
    Plus we wouldn’t have to pay out the win bonus when we play Millwall that week either...🥺
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    "Lee why did you take Messi off after only 25 minutes?"

    "I don't care who you are, you've got to do the basics. He allowed the Burton player to run right past him, it's unacceptable. If he wants a career at this club, he needs to look at players like Darren Pratley, proper players who do the hard graft"
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    Mate that is great it did make me laugh. But you could actually see it happen couldn't u lol
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,210
    Messi has now netted in eight La Liga games in a row - 12 goals in total during those matches - his best streak in two years
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  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Goat.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    AdTheAddicK said:
    Goat.
    Yes. I think Messi is the greatest natural player  of all time. Ronaldo, as good as he is, is a totally differnet type of player. Just imagine them both in the same team!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    cafc999 said:
    AdTheAddicK said:
    Goat.
    Yes. I think Messi is the greatest natural player  of all time. Ronaldo, as good as he is, is a totally differnet type of player. Just imagine them both in the same team!
    Will happen, both playing for Inter Miami in about 3 years time
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,203
    Police have raided Barcalona's office and arrested two of their presidents!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Henry Irving said:
    Police have raided Barcalona's office and arrested two of their presidents!
    It seems it is more to do with their social media smear campaign on opposing clubs than anything else.

    Though they are rumoured to be approximately $1b in debt so it's probably safe to say all is no rosy!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    What a surprise......

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,755
    Such a headline to a thread is such a tease when we are short of forward options
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Barça had a members meeting in the last week or two, and the new president Joan laporta, pushed through a motion to stick firmly with the new Super League. I get the impression that the 'socios' will be happy enough if they get more money to buy players from the SL, and their debts make it imprescindible - that and UEFA's inability to punish the three who are still involved and who show no sign of backing down.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    I'm waiting for the Danial Levy comment, that Spurs were that close to signing him
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,582


    This time next year.

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