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“We’re doing what we can, we’re writing to the Glazers….”, says a disgruntled United fan about the protest on Five Live.
This sounds like a radio version of one of those CL threads after people took our fight to Belgium.
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Souness has got this completely wrong.2
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Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.1 -
The super league was to replace the champions league, not the Premier league. They want to have the cake and eat it.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.0 -
Yes but the public so upset about the Super League are happy with the Premier League. They're the same thing with the same issues.Cafc43v3r said:
The super league was to replace the champions league, not the Premier league. They want to have the cake and eat it.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.1 -
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.4 -
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?0 -
But Leicester's triumph showed that it is possible.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?
The Not-So Super League wouldn't allow a "little" club like the Foxes take part.3 -
A little club with a £5bn owner.Briston_Addick said:
But Leicester's triumph showed that it is possible.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?
The Not-So Super League wouldn't allow a "little" club like the Foxes take part.
Dreams do come true.
The Super League also had a number of 'invitations' open to clubs to fill the full league. So you can't say that for a fact. I hate the Super League but the Premier League is genuinely no better.1 -
Man Utd game off.0
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And what are you basing this on?soapboxsam said:This is the hardcore United fans from Manchester mainly.
The Glazers are the ultimate American owners who saw a cash cow and couldn't believe their luck when they took over the most famous football club worldwide and put the debt on to the club.
Power struggle which will get worldwide coverage.
European Super League and no consequences. Might be fine with the southern softies like Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs, but direct action from the northern mobs will see this story running and running.
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Funny that the 'Sky Sports' opinion is now against the protests for the Super League because their precious games are getting called off now.
Shows that they were always just acting in their best interests rather than actually caring about football ownership or fan welfare.6 -
Large scale protests effects the sky money train all on a social media blackout weekend. Couldn't make it up.
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Fair play those United fans16
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They aren't at all, the premier league is far from perfect but they are the same.SELR_addicks said:
Yes but the public so upset about the Super League are happy with the Premier League. They're the same thing with the same issues.Cafc43v3r said:
The super league was to replace the champions league, not the Premier league. They want to have the cake and eat it.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.0 -
Utter nonsense, the Premier League isn’t perfect but it isn’t anywhere near as bad as what was being proposed.SELR_addicks said:
A little club with a £5bn owner.Briston_Addick said:
But Leicester's triumph showed that it is possible.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?
The Not-So Super League wouldn't allow a "little" club like the Foxes take part.
Dreams do come true.
The Super League also had a number of 'invitations' open to clubs to fill the full league. So you can't say that for a fact. I hate the Super League but the Premier League is genuinely no better.6 -
To be fair, I don’t think anyone is saying the premier league is perfect.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?And no, one underdog winner in 30 years isn’t enough, but I don’t think anyone has said that either.
The point is that Leicester have become a symbol of chasing dreams. It’s still too difficult for anyone outside the big six to win and the Premier League is a massively stacked deck that disproportionally rewards the big clubs financially.But the super league was something far worse. The only potentially positive thing to come out of it is that the balance of power may have slightly shifted away from those teams. But that depends on the extent of sanctions (if any) handed out, and also the extent to which the other 14 clubs are willing to put the boot in.
(The fact that all of us poor little EFL and non league clubs are sitting, waiting, hoping that the 14 will stand up for us is yet another issue entirely - I’m not full of confidence that the “small” Premier League clubs have the future success of anyone other than themselves as their priority.)
But at the end of the day, the 12 dickhead clubs have given the rest of football an opportunity to even things up a bit. The major players need to be brave and do something significant to punish and redress the balance in football both in England and abroad.8 -
Good, nice to see fans at the big clubs standing up to this nonsense.SELR_addicks said:Man Utd game off.1 -
Shows how easy it would be to get a game called off.1
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Cafc43v3r said:
They aren't at all, the premier league is far from perfect but they are the same.SELR_addicks said:
Yes but the public so upset about the Super League are happy with the Premier League. They're the same thing with the same issues.Cafc43v3r said:
The super league was to replace the champions league, not the Premier league. They want to have the cake and eat it.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
You don't think the Premier League clubs would love to breakaway from the EFL if they knew they could get away with it? Of course they would.se9addick said:
Utter nonsense, the Premier League isn’t perfect but it isn’t anywhere near as bad as what was being proposed.SELR_addicks said:
A little club with a £5bn owner.Briston_Addick said:
But Leicester's triumph showed that it is possible.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?
The Not-So Super League wouldn't allow a "little" club like the Foxes take part.
Dreams do come true.
The Super League also had a number of 'invitations' open to clubs to fill the full league. So you can't say that for a fact. I hate the Super League but the Premier League is genuinely no better.3 - Sponsored links:
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They did!!SELR_addicks said:Cafc43v3r said:
They aren't at all, the premier league is far from perfect but they are the same.SELR_addicks said:
Yes but the public so upset about the Super League are happy with the Premier League. They're the same thing with the same issues.Cafc43v3r said:
The super league was to replace the champions league, not the Premier league. They want to have the cake and eat it.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
You don't think the Premier League clubs would love to breakaway from the EFL if they knew they could get away with it? Of course they would.se9addick said:
Utter nonsense, the Premier League isn’t perfect but it isn’t anywhere near as bad as what was being proposed.SELR_addicks said:
A little club with a £5bn owner.Briston_Addick said:
But Leicester's triumph showed that it is possible.SELR_addicks said:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/alletransfers/verein/1003Andyessgee90 said:
I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.SELR_addicks said:Don't know why the English clubs even thought about the Super League, the Premier League IS the Super League.
Everything people criticised the Super League about is already true in the Premier League. There's a lack of competition, the 3 sides that go up usually go down 1 or 2 years later. There is zero ability to break into the top 6 without billionaire investment.
Owner worth £5 billion.
1 freak occurrence in 30 years is really good enough for you?
The Not-So Super League wouldn't allow a "little" club like the Foxes take part.
Dreams do come true.
The Super League also had a number of 'invitations' open to clubs to fill the full league. So you can't say that for a fact. I hate the Super League but the Premier League is genuinely no better.7 -
Dave Jones is doing my head in on this. Sky majorly pissed off. Diddums2
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Things are much stricter at the moment as well due to Covid. If fans are in a "player only area" then that area will need to be sanitisedwmcf123 said:Shows how easy it would be to get a game called off.0 -
They've just lost their big game for the weekend. Not sure when the re-arranged game will be fitted in as there are no available dates (according to what I heard them say earlier). Will they make then play sat, tues,thurs, sunday like Rotherham had to ?? I doubt it.AllHailTheHen said:Dave Jones is doing my head in on this. Sky majorly pissed off. Diddums1 -
There are dates they aren't allowed to play on because of the champions league.golfaddick said:
They've just lost their big game for the weekend. Not sure when the re-arranged game will be fitted in as there are no available dates (according to what I heard them say earlier). Will they make then play sat, tues,thurs, sunday like Rotherham had to ?? I doubt it.AllHailTheHen said:Dave Jones is doing my head in on this. Sky majorly pissed off. Diddums0 -
Typical brutish behaviour of legacy fans getting the worldwide spectacle of the Liverpool franchise verses the Manchester United Franchise called off. There will be riots on the streets of Shanghai. Surely more reason to ban all legacy fans from attending all games in future, ever again.10
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That’s a great point. The SL actually destroys history, not just the future.Andyessgee90 said:I don't think Leicester spent billions, the idea of Leicester getting promoted then winning the league is nul and void in the Super League ideology. This is the crux of the issue.0 -
It's been said Man Utd may face a hefty penalty for this, they have responded by saying Bruno will be taking it 😂6
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The crew on TV here in America is saying over and over that United fans “went too far”. I have to disagree. I realize this is a minority view.Does anyone think the potential SL owners have learned their lesson? No chance. They regret how they rolled it out, not the idea itself. Next time they will hire a PR firm to do this, but it will happen. Unless the owners get the shit scared out of them. Peaceful protests are not going to do that. Club ownership in most of Europe is not a democracy. It’s a totalitarian regime. Peaceful protests don’t remove such regimes.For me this is identical to when Roland’s building caught fire. It was only after that incident that he started to get serious about selling. This event today is not like Trump supporters storming the capital, which was an affront to democracy. Today was a protest against non-democracy. Very different.If this happens at all the other SL clubs (one or two times) then maybe they will think twice. Otherwise I think a SL is still inevitable. The owners will just pay off a few more groups and people to make it happen.2
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I don’t think it is a minority view at all.NapaAddick said:The crew on TV here in America is saying over and over that United fans “went too far”. I have to disagree. I realize this is a minority view.Does anyone think the potential SL owners have learned their lesson? No chance. They regret how they rolled it out, not the idea itself. Next time they will hire a PR firm to do this, but it will happen. Unless the owners get the shit scared out of them. Peaceful protests are not going to do that. Club ownership in most of Europe is not a democracy. It’s a totalitarian regime. Peaceful protests don’t remove such regimes.For me this is identical to when Roland’s building caught fire. It was only after that incident that he started to get serious about selling. This event today is not like Trump supporters storming the capital, which was an affront to democracy. Today was a protest against non-democracy. Very different.If this happens at all the other SL clubs (one or two times) then maybe they will think twice. Otherwise I think a SL is still inevitable. The owners will just pay off a few more groups and people to make it happen.
It’s obviously inconvenient for the broadcasters, and they can’t really be seen to be endorsing people breaking into stadiums. But most people supported us in our protests, and it will be the same here.6
