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Birmingham v Charlton | Post-match thread | 15/07/2020
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It's one thing bringing on a defender in the final couple of minutes, but Sarr came on in the 84th minute, that was THIRTEEN minutes before the final whistle. All one way traffic in that period as we had completely lost the initiative0
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Let’s not start digging each other out, everyone’s frustrated because we’re all Charlton.5
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PWR. Well who didn’t see that coming? Lee Bowyer by the look of it. Game we needed to win yet with twenty minutes to go he invites them on and takes off our three main attacking threats. We needed to keep going and get that second goal to kill them off but no, Bowyer thinks one is enough and we get done right at the death. Now we are right in the brown stuff. Of the three games left that was our best chance of three points yet he’s fucked it up. Feel for the players, the manager has let them down tonight.9
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How the fuck have we "bottled it"? Please, tell me. Who didn't put in the required level of effort today? Who shirked challenges?cafcfan1990 said:
Sorry mate but don’t start digging people out for their views, especially in the midst of frustration at a goal which could relegate us.Off_it said:
Although this one is also "special"mid_life_crisis said:Without doubt, this lot are the biggest bunch of bottlers in the history of football.How anyone can say we haven’t bottled it at times this season is beyond me.
The simple fact is our squad just isn't good enough or strong enough for this league, not since we lost our two best players. If we stay up it will be a miracle. It was always going to be a miracle.
You can't say the players are shit on the one hand and then expect them not to make genuine mistakes. You can point at the manager, the substitutions, the referees, anything you like. But our squad is piss weak for this league and ultimately that's the real problem.
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Only one person, and one person only to blame for where we are now, not Bow, not the players or the back room staff or loyal employees of our wonderful club.His name is Roland, who's attended one match in 7 fucking years and couldn't give a flying fuck about Charlton Football Club, our history or supporters, who lives in a cupboard, somewhere in Belgium counting his money and dreaming of turning The Valley into a new Mayfair.Him, and him alone, with just a little help from that sad, deluded old tosser Murray.Just fuck off and let us have our club back.14
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Sorry Callumcafc I will leave the matchday thread for someone else1
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Although there's been times when we haven't helped ourselves, missing good chances and conceding a string of penalties, we've been fairly sound as a team unit.LoOkOuT said:After a great start since the break, we haven't collected enough points to lift us out of the relegation fight. Razor thin margins have not gone our way. We'll have to limp to safety now if we are to stay up. It's still doable, but it won't be easy and is not totally in our own hands (feet?).
But every team needs to get some breaks .... the lucky deflected goal, the ricochet in the box that falls at the feet of our unmarked striker, the dodgy penalty - they just don't seem to come our way at the moment.
Where's the rub of the green when we need it most?
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Charlton in late goal conceded shock! All so disappointing but also so predictable. Still a chance we will survive if we can somehow beat Wigan on Saturday. If not it's back to League One again.0
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Reading CL helps me get over it tbh, it’s like therapy.robroy said:I’m taking a break from Twitter and CL until Wigan. Just can’t do it to myself
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Bowyer always struck me as a brave player and when he first came into management when he said he had no intentions to, he seemed like a brave manager. Sadly, the point my son made after the game was hard to disagree with. Had we been playing Hull like Wigan yesterday, we would have scored first but would have won 1 nil or drawn the game.
I fear for Saturday because if we score we will sit back until Wigan score. What is the scenario where we win it? Probably a very late goal. Anyway, we are not down yet I suppose! had we won, it would have been very difficult to go down, now we are favourites!3 - Sponsored links:
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Beating Wigan on Saturday see us safe... Fact... However, that's the problem I just can't see past a defeat even with every ounce of my optimistic nature.
We have to hope Wigan feck up and play badly like they did at Barnsley but I worry about our players morale after tonight... It will take some lifting. I think mine might need a lift too...
The horror.... The horror of it all!3 -
Some on here expect too much from this squad7
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Not "luck" as such, but Birmingham missed a penalty. If that had gone in, we would probably have lost the matchOggy Red said:
Although there's been times when we haven't helped ourselves, missing good chances and conceding a string of penalties, we've been fairly sound as a team unit.LoOkOuT said:After a great start since the break, we haven't collected enough points to lift us out of the relegation fight. Razor thin margins have not gone our way. We'll have to limp to safety now if we are to stay up. It's still doable, but it won't be easy and is not totally in our own hands (feet?).
But every team needs to get some breaks .... the lucky deflected goal, the ricochet in the box that falls at the feet of our unmarked striker, the dodgy penalty - they just don't seem to come our way at the moment.
Where's the rub of the green when we need it most?0 -
Don't think I can take another stint in league 12
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McGeadys best performance as well, he looked pissed off being subbed.IR94 said:Bow is the worse subber I have ever seen, field, Williams, doherty off (our only pace)13 -
Jeezking addick said:Philips may have some good saves but cost us the goal by not holding the first shot...no need to push it away there
Yep - he should have held the Pen as well....lucky they didn’t score from the rebound.
Subs poor- Amos should have come on
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He has every right to be.Charltonparklane said:
McGeadys best performance as well, he looked pissed off being subbed.IR94 said:Bow is the worse subber I have ever seen, field, Williams, doherty off (our only pace)2 -
In our last 10 league matches we have 4 goals.0.4
That’s about the same odds as dying of Covid under age 60.1 -
Yes, but isn't this what the modern game is about?mistrollingin62 said:Only one person, and one person only to blame for where we are now, not Bow, not the players or the back room staff or loyal employees of our wonderful club.His name is Roland, who's attended one match in 7 fucking years and couldn't give a flying fuck about Charlton Football Club, our history or supporters, who lives in a cupboard, somewhere in Belgium counting his money and dreaming of turning The Valley into a new Mayfair.Him, and him alone, with just a little help from that sad, deluded old tosser Murray.Just fuck off and let us have our club back.0 -
We really are one hell of an unlucky club this year. Everything about Charlton has become toxic in 2020. It is now beyond reason to believe we can expect 3 teams all to screw up in the last 2 games. Totally gutted.Oggy Red said:
Although there's been times when we haven't helped ourselves, missing good chances and conceding a string of penalties, we've been fairly sound as a team unit.LoOkOuT said:After a great start since the break, we haven't collected enough points to lift us out of the relegation fight. Razor thin margins have not gone our way. We'll have to limp to safety now if we are to stay up. It's still doable, but it won't be easy and is not totally in our own hands (feet?).
But every team needs to get some breaks .... the lucky deflected goal, the ricochet in the box that falls at the feet of our unmarked striker, the dodgy penalty - they just don't seem to come our way at the moment.
Where's the rub of the green when we need it most?1 - Sponsored links:
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Those first two games at the restart gave me the faintest glimmer of hope that has, over the last few games been slowly snuffed out. After all we’ve been through, this second half of the season feels like Charlton have been hung, drawn and quartered and yet still there is a faint pulse. The torture continues.....2
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Glad you liked it.Off_it said:
Some of the comments on this thread are truly unbelievable. And none more so than this.golfaddick said:Bowyer ain't got a clue. Coaching badges are chuff.
I'll say it again. He cost us the game. Took off all our attacking threat & brought on defenders.
All we had to do was to win the game. I said it during the match thread not to take off players who could run with the ball. Just like against Brentford he took off the players who created the goal (Williams & Doughty) & wonder why we let them back into it
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A point v Wigan as Huddersfield lose to wba could mean that Millwall just need to beat Huddersfield to keep Charlton up!jimmymelrose said:I think that Luton will beat Hull and possibly Blackburn too.
Ironically, our best hope is that Stoke beat Brentford meaning that Leeds win promotion just before their last game.
If we can pull off a shock at Leeds, Huddersfield have two tough games against West Bromwich Albion and Millwall. It's not over yet.
I don't necessarily believe it will happen but it's not beyond the reach of this league's random nature.
Despite what some are saying, this team are anything but bottlers. Someone might just grab the bull by the horns and be a hero.1 -
The big difference was that they had a sub,Bellingham who could lift the team and he did,our subs,whether needed or not where a step down from those that came off(exception being Aneke for Hemed).We needed some speed on the bench,to try and break out from the pressure that was always going to come.Maybe Green should have been on the bench.Thought Cullen looked shot today,maybe Field should have stayed on,no point in saving players at this stage of the season.The fat lady is still singing.1
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Poor subs from Bowyer. Take the 750k me thinks.....4
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I agree, moan if it’s off target but it wasn’t and the keeper saved it. If Dills had make that save we’d have been salivating.ForeverAddickted said:
Camp save!!... Bonne got it on targetIR94 said:Bonne miss big turning point2 -
Relax. It's already over.carly burn said:This season is dragging on like a bad smell! When will it end!
It's seriously making me nauseous. I've had more than a gut full of it.0 -
Couldn't even listen to the game today.
I seem to be paralysed by the fear of inevitability. I did hear a muted cheer from my son upstairs, then spent the rest of the game watching the clock, but I didn't even dare to hope, and sure enough my instinct was right, Charlton deliver another disappointment.
What with lockdown, the wide boys' shenanigans and the results on the pitch it really ain't a good time. Sorry, but I feel lower than a snake's belly atm.
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For someone who says they always want to win every game, Bowyer has a funny way of showing it. How many times does throwing on defensive players not have to work before the mindset changes? Most pissed off I've felt in a long time.5
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4 goals in the 7 since the restart, 4 in 10 as Napa points out above.
we looked clueless going forward and the goal came out the blue for me if we’re being brutally honest. It was a good goal and then McGeady almost got a second, but why oh why do invite pressure like we do. We’d conceded 6 times in 90 plus minutes before tonight so we know it’s a problem.It’s frustrating to watch at the moment as you know the quality isn’t there. Then to get yourself within 4 mins of virtual safety and to blow it, for the 7th time this season is a bit criminal imo.The most frustrating thing is that results have kept falling for us elsewhere. That won’t keep happening. At the moment, it looks like the only way we’ll stay up is Hull and Luton draw on Saturday, and they and Barnsley lose all their remaining games.Clutching at straws.
Wigan aren’t unbeatable, but they are on fire. Luton are playing Hull and Blackburn. They can get 6pts there. Excluding Wigan’s points deduction, that would mean we need 4pts from Wigan and Leeds
permutations but tonight was a must win4
