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Even if it's by goal difference, or goals scored, or head to head with the next side, that'll do me. Roly's legacy gonna take a sight longer than 4 and a bit months to overcome. Bowyer needs to make better use of the resources he has but there's enough dross in this division to prop Charlton up to at least 21st place.SouthWest_Addicks said:Season will be defined by our home matches. Still reckon we will have enough to stay up. If we do stay up, it won’t be more than 1 or 2 points.3 -
That's the absolute best we can expect. There's no realistic possibility of the complicit frauds at EFL dumping any of these sides down a division. Even if they could put some sort of case together, it'll be mired in appeals, CAS, wrangling and counter claims for months if not years. There's no solace for Charlton to find there. Even looking for chinks of light there is tantamount to giving up.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
As soon as both clubs have enough points to be comfortably safe from any serious points deduction..............DoctorCharlton said:At what point do we find out about Wednesday and Derby points deduction?
Would EFL leave it literally until the last minute? Will they even get deducted at all this season? A quick google didn't give me any answers.
Finishing 21st is well within our capabilities.0 -
Sad, but true.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
As soon as both clubs have enough points to be comfortably safe from any serious points deduction..............DoctorCharlton said:At what point do we find out about Wednesday and Derby points deduction?
Would EFL leave it literally until the last minute? Will they even get deducted at all this season? A quick google didn't give me any answers.
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Cue Middlesbrough winning 7-0 against Forest tonight.The_President said:
Even 3 might be ok - as long as that 3 is against Boro it would take us potentially 5 points clear of them, with better GD, and deflate them at same time. Another point at Hull would be a real bonus. If that happened, then that could take us 3 games away (6 points) from Boro where they need to get points if we get nothing.Chris_from_Sidcup said:If we can get 6 points from Boro, Hull and QPR then things will start to look a bit more promising. 4-5 points possibly won't be a disaster either.
Anything less than that though and i fear with the games immediately after (Cardiff, Millwall, Brentford) then we'll be rooted in the bottom 3 with 4 games left.1 -
Boro draw tonight.
10 games left.
If everyone gets same number of points from next 10 as last 10:
Hull 43
Boro 43
Luton 47
Barnsley 47
Charlton 49
Stoke 54
Hudds 56
Wigan 57
but
1. Can we get 10 points from 10? 3 wins
2. Will Boro and Hull really be as bad in next 10
next 2 weeks will tell us a lot! COYR2 -
Well, i was right with my prediction of one point for Boro. Lets hope im wrong about Sat and we can get all 3.3
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As things generally even themselves out during a season, and teams go on runs (both good & bad) then I doubt whether both Hull & Boro will be as bad for the rest of the season as they have been recently.redman said:Boro draw tonight.
10 games left.
If everyone gets same number of points from next 10 as last 10:
Hull 43
Boro 43
Luton 47
Barnsley 47
Charlton 49
Stoke 54
Hudds 56
Wigan 57
but
1. Can we get 10 points from 10? 3 wins
2. Will Boro and Hull really be as bad in next 10
next 2 weeks will tell us a lot! COYR
I'll be very surprised if either are in the bottom 3 at the end if the season.0 -
My fear is our confidence... we seem to be very wobbly in deed, which means if we get an early goal and the crowd get behind us, we have a real chance... but this hang on by the fingernails every week has lost us so many points and now that we seem incapable of even getting into that position... it's very dark...
I'll be hiding behind the sofa for the rest of the season...
Squeeky bum time for sure...2 -
Watched the Hull vs Leeds game, and Hull look shot to pieces.
Selling players of that quality mid-season would have such a damaging effect on the morale of the group - they have also now lost Tom Eaves for the season as well.
Our biggest problem is the lack of investment in January, where we have arguably come out of the window weaker than when we went into it.
HUGE game on Saturday against Boro - lost that and we are in the shite, not forgetting that we still have to play Leeds and Brentford away.2 -
Since accepting that we will go down last week, I feel much less stress. I plan to try the same tactic with Coronavirus.
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Our next 2 games are against the 2 sides who are bottom of the form table.Middlesbrough 0 wins in 10.Hull 0 wins in 10.What could possibly go wrong?13
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golfaddick said:
As things generally even themselves out during a season, and teams go on runs (both good & bad) then I doubt whether both Hull & Boro will be as bad for the rest of the season as they have been recently.redman said:Boro draw tonight.
10 games left.
If everyone gets same number of points from next 10 as last 10:
Hull 43
Boro 43
Luton 47
Barnsley 47
Charlton 49
Stoke 54
Hudds 56
Wigan 57
but
1. Can we get 10 points from 10? 3 wins
2. Will Boro and Hull really be as bad in next 10
next 2 weeks will tell us a lot! COYR
I'll be very surprised if either are in the bottom 3 at the end if the season.With that in mind, then Wigan, Luton and Barnsley aren't going to keep up there recent good form.I still believe bottom 3 will be Luton, Barnsley and one of Hull/Boro at end of season.2 -
I think the difference with Hull, is that it's not just a form and confidence issue, they genuinely are a much weaker team than before the transfer windowgolfaddick said:
As things generally even themselves out during a season, and teams go on runs (both good & bad) then I doubt whether both Hull & Boro will be as bad for the rest of the season as they have been recently.redman said:Boro draw tonight.
10 games left.
If everyone gets same number of points from next 10 as last 10:
Hull 43
Boro 43
Luton 47
Barnsley 47
Charlton 49
Stoke 54
Hudds 56
Wigan 57
but
1. Can we get 10 points from 10? 3 wins
2. Will Boro and Hull really be as bad in next 10
next 2 weeks will tell us a lot! COYR
I'll be very surprised if either are in the bottom 3 at the end if the season.
Huddersfield on the other hand strengthened the most during the window, so you'd expect them to be better1 -
I have accepted we were down after Sheff Weds and losing 4-0 to Huddersfield Sat I think has put the confidence in the team to bed, I have felt all along this season that our 4 best players this season were Gallagher, Cullen, Williams and Taylor. They were your key ones. If any of them were injured we would struggle. People are quick to blame ESI but I am not. January is always notoriously difficult to get the right players. Who really is going to join a side that is losing regularly and going down. It is a shame that there wasn't a Kevin Phillips who could play for us. Also everyone knows how to play our diamond, Looking ar our next 10 days we will struggle to get the reqd points to stay up. I have watched Wigan in the last few games. No way we will beat them. You need at least 2 goals to beat them. Added to that we play Leeds away (we won't there) and Millwall at home (again we get nothing out of that). That least seven games to get the points needed. I still think 50 points is what you should be aiming for. So basically we have to win 4 out of the 7 games. 2 0f those Brentford and Cardiff are pushing for play offs etc. We never beat Birmingham away. So we have to beat Boro, QPR, Reading and Hull away. I jjust can't see it. Hope I will be eating humble pie.
I will be singing and giving my all on Saturday and will do.
If and when we go down I will be there getting my season ticket next year.
At least then we can invest in some good decent players and push for promotion.
League one has been poor this year.
At least next season we won't have to loan10 players next year, we can invest in our own, although I would miss Cullen.
Soon I will be looking at this squad and thinking who should stay and who should go.
On the subject of Bowyer. Yes I would keep him.
There is one manager I would love to see at the club but I would never want Bowyer sacked.
Bowyer brough the the club together, and got us up in some very difficult circumstances.
He shoukld be allowed time to rebuild the squad in the summer and push for promotion if we go down.
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Call me naive but I still don't think we will go down.I think we will win Saturday and beat both QPR & Hull.4
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We need a countdown to Charlton's relegation thread , we do it to other clubs and they kick on and survive3
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I dont get Rudders negativity. To me, beat Boro and we are 4 points clear of them, which with our better GD means they have to achieve 2 wins more than us in 9 games when they havnt won 1 in 11.!
To me, we 'just' need to scrap and fight our way to three wins, then we will be safe, if we get three (with Boro being one of them), then it would mean Boro having to get four in their remaining nine. We need to press and harry them high up pitch - when Forest did that last night Boro looked clueless.4 -
I had a manic day at work Saturday, 14 hour shift. Until 2 minutes ago, I actually thought we’d lost 2-0 last Saturday ! Ffs, I wondered why there was so much negativity over the past few days !1
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If only we could wipe out all the late goals this season, we'd be well up the table...alan dugdale said:I had a manic day at work Saturday, 14 hour shift. Until 2 minutes ago, I actually thought we’d lost 2-0 last Saturday ! Ffs, I wondered why there was so much negativity over the past few days !2 -
A crazy number of 6 pointers coming up down the bottom, and in consecutive matches too. For example these are Stoke's next 5 games
Hull
Reading
Boro
Wigan
Barnsley
While Luton in April play
Reading
Barnsley
Huddersfield
QPR
Hull
Barnsley in April in consecutive matches play
Stoke
Luton
Wigan
Impossible to call who will go down at the moment, as so many 6 pointers to play for, but for a neutral watcher, it will be gripping stuff0 -
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Points being shared around as we look for a handout from our friendly neighbourskillerandflash said:A crazy number of 6 pointers coming up down the bottom, and in consecutive matches too. For example these are Stoke's next 5 games
Hull
Reading
Boro
Wigan
Barnsley
While Luton in April play
Reading
Barnsley
Huddersfield
QPR
Hull
Barnsley in April in consecutive matches play
Stoke
Luton
Wigan
Impossible to call who will go down at the moment, as so many 6 pointers to play for, but for a neutral watcher, it will be gripping stuff0 -
The way we set up away from home, i cant see us getting any wins. Maybe 1 or 2 0-0 scores but no wins.CharltonByBlood said:Call me naive but I still don't think we will go down.I think we will win Saturday and beat both QPR & Hull.1 -
Our friendly neighbours will lay down and die against our rivals but, as usual, avoid defeat against us probably by winning.oohaahmortimer said:
Points being shared around as we look for a handout from our friendly neighbourskillerandflash said:A crazy number of 6 pointers coming up down the bottom, and in consecutive matches too. For example these are Stoke's next 5 games
Hull
Reading
Boro
Wigan
Barnsley
While Luton in April play
Reading
Barnsley
Huddersfield
QPR
Hull
Barnsley in April in consecutive matches play
Stoke
Luton
Wigan
Impossible to call who will go down at the moment, as so many 6 pointers to play for, but for a neutral watcher, it will be gripping stuff0 -
When you are in trouble give Charlton a callChris_from_Sidcup said:Our next 2 games are against the 2 sides who are bottom of the form table.Middlesbrough 0 wins in 10.Hull 0 wins in 10.What could possibly go wrong?
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Staying up seems unlikely for me but not impossible so we just need to take it game by game. If we lose on Saturday it would certainly knock us back.0
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You're more likely to get Coronavirus than us staying up if we lose on Saturday!NapaAddick said:Since accepting that we will go down last week, I feel much less stress. I plan to try the same tactic with Coronavirus.0 -
The_President said:
The way we set up away from home, i cant see us getting any wins. Maybe 1 or 2 0-0 scores but no wins.CharltonByBlood said:Call me naive but I still don't think we will go down.I think we will win Saturday and beat both QPR & Hull.Let's face it away from home we're awful. Psychologically beaten before we leave the dressing room. A VERY bad sign. Nothing I've seen makes me think that will change.0 -
They play us on saturday, we hardly have a track record of stuffing teams that are in a slump. As for the goal difference, is that really going to last 9 games ? I'm presuming both Sarr and Lockyer as missing for the borough game too.The_President said:I dont get Rudders negativity. To me, beat Boro and we are 4 points clear of them, which with our better GD means they have to achieve 2 wins more than us in 9 games when they havnt won 1 in 11.!
To me, we 'just' need to scrap and fight our way to three wins, then we will be safe, if we get three (with Boro being one of them), then it would mean Boro having to get four in their remaining nine. We need to press and harry them high up pitch - when Forest did that last night Boro looked clueless.0 -
Interesting that Bowyer mentions rivals strengthening in January, and us having "the lowest budget by a country mile", a slight moan that we didn't spend in the window?Scoham said:3
