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Leeds to face racism probe
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Leeds fans going mad, saying their is no proof and its a conspiracy against them10
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Their official statement won’t help that.paulie8290 said:Leeds fans going mad, saying their is no proof and its a conspiracy against them
https://twitter.com/lufc/status/1233474451066347521?s=21
“ However, it is important to recognise that Kiko has always denied making any racist comment.The FA panel have based their decision on the balance of probability rather than proving Kiko to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt, which we have always believed is the more appropriate burden of proof.“Not impressed.7 -
To be fair I agree with thempaulie8290 said:Leeds fans going mad, saying their is no proof and its a conspiracy against them
Whats to stop a Huddersfield player from claiming that Pearce has racially abused him and gets a team mate to back him up?
Of course you'd hope and suspect that there is honesty at play, especially in this case
But unless there has been other proof (and I truly hope there has) then it was impossible for the FA to make the right decision either way
Which is why I suspect the punishment was so weak0 -
https://twitter.com/PhilHay_/status/1233476602652168193
FA are going to release full details of the hearing and what got said next week
Good decision in my view - Need this sort of transparency within the game11 -
That eight match ban could bite us on the bum as it includes Hull, Huddersfield, Luton and Stoke. It could literally add injury to insult.4
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I agree with Leeds' fury about the decision happening less than 24-hours before a game
Especially when the inquiry happened at the start of the week0 -
Interesting that Phil Hay has said Kiko Casilla can appeal but his understanding is that he wont be appealing.
If you are innocent why not appeal and clear your name6 -
Agreed - you'd want to clear your name.paulie8290 said:Interesting that Phil Hay has said Kiko Casilla can appeal but his understanding is that he wont be appealing.
If you are innocent why not appeal and clear your name2 -
What is he accused of saying?0
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Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah0 - Sponsored links:
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Good, the prick deserves to be banned from every football ground in England and Wales.2
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Was not at all what happened and Casilla knows it.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
Extremely disappointing response from Leeds but not entirely surprising.24 -
Any chance the club will now be replying to my email sent over 2 months ago.Ollywozere said:
Was not at all what happened and Casilla knows it.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
Extremely disappointing response from Leeds but not entirely surprising.
And when will be appealing the decision stating we ban fans for life for racist outbursts.
Again kick racism out when it suits us.1 -
I didnt want to ask you on Twitter Olly (as knew Leeds fans would jump on it) but saw your comments in response to the Leeds statementOllywozere said:
Was not at all what happened and Casilla knows it.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
Extremely disappointing response from Leeds but not entirely surprising.
Did pitchside cameras pick up the conversation? (I know the club use GoPro cameras all the time) or was it from conversations with the players?0 -
Cameras caught the moment, but you can’t hear what’s said. The incident was not at the corner as most believe, but after the ball was cleared. There are no defenders involved, just Casilla and the two relevent Charlton players who heard it very clearly.ForeverAddickted said:
I didnt want to ask you on Twitter Olly (as knew Leeds fans would jump on it) but saw your comments in response to the Leeds statementOllywozere said:
Was not at all what happened and Casilla knows it.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
Extremely disappointing response from Leeds but not entirely surprising.
Did pitchside cameras pick up the conversation? (I know the club use GoPro cameras all the time) or was it from conversations with the players?
I obviously won’t post exactly what was said, but the content and the context certainly don’t allow for any excuses relating to the Spanish language.
The players involved heard very clearly what he said and, crucially, have absolutely no reason whatsoever to have made it all up.
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The FA will publish the full transcript next week and will include exactly what was said.
Will be interesting the hear Casilla's Catalonian excuse. Damning that they're not appealing. Will Leeds now sack him as they surely should?
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Problem is he allegedly still used English for every word but negro.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
He knew exactly what he was doing.1 -
If you're innocent and want to clear your name then you'll appeal.2
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Probably safer if you * out that word like @ForeverAddicktedDazzler21 said:
Problem is he allegedly still used English for every word but n***o.ForeverAddickted said:
Am sure I read somewhere... Apparently we had a corner and Casilla said to his team mates to "mark the b***k bloke"Valleyofdreams said:What is he accused of saying?
In Spanish that word is "n***o"
Hence the argument was he wasnt being intentionally racist yet was a cultural difference
If it is the case then I think it would be wise for clubs to educate all incoming players on what is acceptable and what isnt, we may then see an improvement
The argument to that is we shouldnt have to, but unfortunately we dont live in a world where we all hold hands and sing kum ba yah
He knew exactly what he was doing.0 - Sponsored links:
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8 matches - wonder what ban a fan would get for yelling the same thing from the crowd.Likely a lot more than 8 matches and quite possibly a visit the old bill.3
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Said before that The FA is always based on the balance of probability. They didn’t know what to do for so long and it was originally thought to be a 12 match ban. They’ve sat on this for ages and handed out an 8 game ban and a fine because for them it still makes them look good to the wider community.
Glad it is all over, but it’s taken far too long and shows there is still much work to do in our own game before we do say anything else about others.5 -
Addickted said:The FA will publish the full transcript next week and will include exactly what was said.
I bet you do if the FA do !!Ollywozere said:I obviously won’t post exactly what was said
It's all been sorted , what difference will you saying it now make when the FA will say it next week ??1 -
Yes, a situation where Leko's parent club West Brom are probably the big winners out of this...Stig said:That eight match ban could bite us on the bum as it includes Hull, Huddersfield, Luton and Stoke. It could literally add injury to insult.1 -
Casilla is going to be a loss for them no doubt about it.killerandflash said:
Yes, a situation where Leko's parent club West Brom are probably the big winners out of this...Stig said:That eight match ban could bite us on the bum as it includes Hull, Huddersfield, Luton and Stoke. It could literally add injury to insult.
However, Meslier is a very good young keeper who has an exceptional distribution. The other part is that they are going to have the ball for the vast majority of the time, it’s up to the outfield players to ensure the opposition don’t get close enough to their goal to hurt them.0 -
I see Casilla released a statement
I think the key part in that is when he said I would never use my words with a racist meaning, so it sounds like he is admitting he said what is being said he said, just that he didn't mean it as it came out.
Poor excuse if u ask me3 -
So he abuses a Charlton player.
Gets a ban which includes games against Huddersfield Luton and Stoke.
Returns to play against Charlton.
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I'd give him another two game ban for spelling behaviour incorrectly2
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Plus a couple more for the different fonts used.Addickted said:I'd give him another two game ban for spelling behaviour incorrectly6
