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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Cawley dismissed the Bostock move when it was first made 10 or so days ago.

    Doesn't mean it's not true now though given how other moves haven't happened.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,442
    Not in MASSIVE trouble yet - still a few games to go before we can officially panic.
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    If we was too go down we would lose £5m for every season in league one.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Dazzler21 said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    why the excitement over Bostock (age 28 lol) ? .. he's played 3 games in England in the past 7 or so years and if he is so terrific, why are Forest prepared to release him early form his loan period .. we might as well have kept Ledley .. are we at the stage when even the hint of getting in (say) a Macclesfield reserve right back sets us all off in a joyous frenzy ?
     Bostock is a massive upgrade on Ledley. I admit that's not saying much, but lets not shit on players just because they're not premier league or top 6 championship standard.
    begs the question, how often have you seen him play other than a cameo 5 months ago ? . I am not saying he's rubbish, but his record in England is poor and I repeat, why are Forest letting him go ? .. I can't see him coming to the Valley and changing us into a promotion contender, oh that I am totally wrong .. And IF he does sign on, I'll wish him all the very best as I do with every player we sign
  • Jamie19
    Jamie19 Posts: 96
     Wonder if we’ll go back in for Armand Gnanduillet? Now that they have a ready made replacement.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    edited January 2020
    Jamie19 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Start of last week I remember posting that Rome wasn’t built in a day, but I reckon they at least had some tools to get started by now.

    We are sacrificing two games for the long term, which will be shite if the short term is shite.  Surely we want to head into the Barnsley and stoke games without pressure, I’m not panicking but something should have been done before this weekend.

    We will now end up rushing back the recovering players, so brace yourselves for more setbacks.  However you look at it, we are currently weaker now than we was Jan 1st squad wise.
    Williams, JFC, Hemed, Cullen and Oztumer all in the squad for Saturday according to Bowyer so I’m sure we’re stronger than January 1st, I was starting to get a bit anxious but I’m a lot more confident that they’ll get this window right after just watching the press conference.
    Hope you’re right, but we had Gallagher and Taylor in the starting team 2nd Jan, of the players you named only Williams is of the same calibre (Cullen won’t start).  Personally I think that makes us weaker starting XI, perhaps a stronger bench I’ll give you that. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Maddison speaking to Birmingham:

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/birmingham-city-have-maddison-bid-accepted-as-charlton-facing-hijack/
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Valley11 said:
    Maddison speaking to Birmingham:

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/birmingham-city-have-maddison-bid-accepted-as-charlton-facing-hijack/
    Valley11 said:
    Maddison speaking to Birmingham:

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/birmingham-city-have-maddison-bid-accepted-as-charlton-facing-hijack/


    despite their supposed financial problems .. lesson is, we want the stars, we gotta pay the big bucks, wages and transfer fees
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
    https://www.888sport.com/blog/football/championship/how-much-do-championship-football-players-get-paid

    from a couple of years ago .. could be kosher, could be estimate, could be a load of old bollox
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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Lets be realistic guys. 

    The last two times we have been relegated to L1 we have Championship waged squads which were not appropriate for L1  

    I don't want us to be paying over the odds now if we could be in L1 in sux months time. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
    Yes, it’s the total wage divided by the number of players......sorry
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
    I shouldn't think it really matters.

    Not many players will receive the 'average salary'. 
    Instead it'll be whatever each club will actually pay.




  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    Decent chance of Birmingham going down if they get a points deduction? Surely that works in our favour?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    edited January 2020
    Richard J said:
    Lets be realistic guys. 

    The last two times we have been relegated to L1 we have Championship waged squads which were not appropriate for L1  

    I don't want us to be paying over the odds now if we could be in L1 in sux months time. 
    it's rolling the dice time .. we probably/almost certainly need a couple of quality signings to ensure we avoid relegation .. I have no idea what our players are earning, BUT I suspect that the difficulty around signing (e.g.) Maddison or keeping Gallagher was a question of wages .. the new owners are gonna be loath to break the current pay structure until they know who is worth keeping and who is surplus to requirements .. this needs to be done quickly to A) ensure that potential signings are offered a good deal and B) To prevent what you fear, relegation with a big and unsustainable wage bill
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    LTKapal said:
    Decent chance of Birmingham going down if they get a points deduction? Surely that works in our favour?
    Have read that their points deduction is likely to be next season. EFL always bottle it.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    LTKapal said:
    Decent chance of Birmingham going down if they get a points deduction? Surely that works in our favour?
    It works in every Championship club's favour .... except Birmingham's, of course. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Oggy Red said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
    I shouldn't think it really matters.

    Not many players will receive the 'average salary'. 
    Instead it'll be whatever each club will actually pay.




    Actually they will, that’s literally the meaning of average. 

    I get what you are saying but if we are offering League 1 wages we will get League 1 players. 
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    Oggy Red said:
    LTKapal said:
    Decent chance of Birmingham going down if they get a points deduction? Surely that works in our favour?
    It works in every Championship club's favour .... except Birmingham's, of course. 
    I meant theoretically in regards to them going in for Maddison but agreed 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    edited January 2020
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Oggy Red said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Does anybody know what the average salary is in the Championship?
    I shouldn't think it really matters.

    Not many players will receive the 'average salary'. 
    Instead it'll be whatever each club will actually pay.




    Actually they will, that’s literally the meaning of average. 

    I get what you are saying but if we are offering League 1 wages we will get League 1 players. 
    I meant that very few players will be paid some statistical average ..... it'll be higher or lower, of course.

    But I doubt we will now be offering new signings League 1 wages.
    And while I shouldn't think it'll be anyway near the top end of that paid in this division, it might be more competitive than we think.

    After all, apart from arresting our drop down the table, there'll be one eye on building for next season.


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  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
      The average salary was said to be about £320,000 five years ago.  Now some outlets reckon £1,300,000.  There was supposed to have been a massive jump.  Either way players like Maddison will probably be asking for top Championship wages.

      I don't know if you remember the Barnsley forward who we went for 5-6 years ago Chris O'Grady?  He'd had one good season in the Champ, but wanted 14 grand a week.  Said to have got it from Brighton as well.  I'd guess Maddison would ask for substantially more.  And why not?  It might be his last contract.  Utter modern football madness mind you.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    I reckon Maddison will choose us over Brum. That Alan Nixon who everyone gives clout to on here says we offered a good deal. Brum are in the shit with the EFL so might not be able to offer as much in wages after meeting the transfer fee. Who knows. Is what it is 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    And on top of that, there is the disparity of wealth caused by the Sky parachute payments.
    It effectively divides the division into different groups of financial ability.

    And, despite the takeover, we're probably still in the bottom group especially with FFP rules.
    But that doesn't mean we can now only offer new signings League 1 wages.


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    It seems incredible that Birmingham are buying players or trying to buy players after they have been caught out a second time. Are they laughing at the league?
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,997
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    It seems incredible that Birmingham are buying players or trying to buy players after they have been caught out a second time. Are they laughing at the league?
    Fair point 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Can FFP be got round by a series of lucrative sponsorship deals from some of HE 60 companies?

    I'd be happy to have The Valley renamed The ADBD Valley for £50m over five years.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/posh/peterborough-united-manager-is-fed-up-with-the-circus-act-surrounding-marcus-maddison-and-will-no-longer-select-him-1-9204087/amp

    Apologies if already posted.

    Maddison dropped for remainder of season. My guess would be to force his hand and ensure Posh get a payout..
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    Copied from another thread (now closed):

    Brown59 said:
    Why does my thread keep being closed because people on here who run it don’t t agree. 
    I still stand by what I said. Now Maddison to Birmingham, no players in for us. Manager not signed.
    panic buys at end of January..
    As I said you will say I was right? 

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    edited January 2020
    PopIcon said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/posh/peterborough-united-manager-is-fed-up-with-the-circus-act-surrounding-marcus-maddison-and-will-no-longer-select-him-1-9204087/amp

    Apologies if already posted.

    Maddison dropped for remainder of season. My guess would be to force his hand and ensure Posh get a payout..
    Get him in... We can do with the aggravation!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited January 2020
    3:30 Ferguson talks about Maddison:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHZsbj4Ac4o

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