ideally we would have some bodies in by now... but lets face it we will probably get 3/4 done on the 31st. Just got to hope we can gain a few points in next 2 games!
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
Can't see what Chelsea have done wrong ? They used the recall clause in the loan contract . Looks like Bowye r wasn't told before they did it which was disrespectful but not contractually wrong
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
There's a little conundrum at play in the January transfer window:
1) Clubs know that players in the last few months of their contract can normally be available at reduced market value, as their club know it's better to get something now rather than nothing in the summer.
2) But players in big demand running down contracts know they can sit on their hands now and perhaps negotiate a bigger/better contract in the summer as a free agent.
It's always a gamble though ...... not only form can be lost ("a player is only as good as his last game"), but serious injury can truly put a spanner in the works.
And then you can have the Ben Reeves' type scenario, where you think you can take a pick of clubs but as the end of the Summer transfer window approaches, end up late on signing for one you didn't fancy because you need a job.
So ...... if you were a player, which choice would you make?
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
Demand compensation? For what? Although having said that we might have given it a whirl if Roland was in charge...
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
Demand compensation? For what? Although having said that we might have given it a whirl if Roland was in charge...
I don't know about Roland ...... but maybe Katrien would have tried to sell Gallagher to Chelsea?
If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.
It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.
Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more. If they don't they will get nothing.
As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.
If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer.
As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.
It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.
Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more. If they don't they will get nothing.
As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.
If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer.
As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
Ah that’s interesting.
£750K still feels like a lot for a third tier player who only has a few months left on his deal but maybe that’s the price of apples these days!
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
What compensation were we due for Chelsea taking their player back as agreed in the contract ?
I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely?
With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
What compensation were we due for Chelsea taking their player back as agreed in the contract ?
Mason Mount on a free transfer is what I heard - but Matt said 'No, you're ok'.
I get that Southall is in a tricky position, we don't want to offer decent money and then find ourselves in League 1, but this is similar to the summer where we are missing out on decent players because we can't offer that bit extra.
We are not in massive trouble ... Lee about to sign, a number of players being looked at, players returning from injury, 5 points clear of relegation and a better goal difference.
I like your rose tinted glasses, but Lee hasn't signed, neither have any players. None of the returning players are match fit and we're in relegation form. Plus we've just been told our new owners dont yet own our stadium. I hope come Jan 31st we have turned a corner, but the proof is in the pudding.
Rose-tinted? Define massive trouble. To me that is a few points adrift at the bottom of the table in April.
Lee has basically said he is signing soon. Lyle is an unknown. Returning players will get match fit.
And the stadium will be resolved in the next 3-4 months.
We may not be in a great place but we are absolutely not in massive trouble.
If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.
It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.
Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more. If they don't they will get nothing.
As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.
If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer.
As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
Ah that’s interesting.
£750K still feels like a lot for a third tier player who only has a few months left on his deal but maybe that’s the price of apples these days!
Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
He's 26, Lincs - pushing 30 is probably stretching it a bit too far.
Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
He's 26, Lincs - pushing 30 is probably stretching it a bit too far.
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1) Clubs know that players in the last few months of their contract can normally be available at reduced market value,
as their club know it's better to get something now rather than nothing in the summer.
2) But players in big demand running down contracts know they can sit on their hands now and perhaps negotiate a bigger/better contract in the summer as a free agent.
It's always a gamble though ...... not only form can be lost ("a player is only as good as his last game"), but serious injury can truly put a spanner in the works.
And then you can have the Ben Reeves' type scenario, where you think you can take a pick of clubs but as the end of the Summer transfer window approaches, end up late on signing for one you didn't fancy because you need a job.
So ...... if you were a player, which choice would you make?
He has to write short simple sentences so that Sun Readers can understand.
A bit like Janet and John books ..... "The cat sat on the mat".
You know what I mean.
£750K still feels like a lot for a third tier player who only has a few months left on his deal but maybe that’s the price of apples these days!
Lee has basically said he is signing soon. Lyle is an unknown. Returning players will get match fit.
And the stadium will be resolved in the next 3-4 months.
We may not be in a great place but we are absolutely not in massive trouble.
For me, ‘Not in a great place’ means we are in bottom half of table ... I still think we will finish top half so it’s temporary only.
‘Massive trouble’ means bottom and many points adrift.
‘Not in a great place’ is recoverable ... ‘massive trouble’ means it may be too late.