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  • SouthLincsAddick
    SouthLincsAddick Posts: 575
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    se9addick said:
    If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.

    It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.  
    Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more.
    If they don't they will get nothing.

    As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
    I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.

    If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee  for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer. 

    As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
    Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,110
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    se9addick said:
    If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.

    It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.  
    Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more.
    If they don't they will get nothing.

    As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
    I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.

    If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee  for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer. 

    As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
    Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
    Ah that’s interesting.

    £750K still feels like a lot for a third tier player who only has a few months left on his deal but maybe that’s the price of apples these days! 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    se9addick said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely? 
    With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
    The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
    What compensation were we due for Chelsea taking their player back as agreed in the contract ?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,946
    Covered End said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    se9addick said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely? 
    With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
    The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
    What compensation were we due for Chelsea taking their player back as agreed in the contract ?
    Mason Mount on a free transfer is what I heard - but Matt said 'No, you're ok'.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,110
    compensation
    /kɒmpɛnˈseɪʃ(ə)n,kɒmp(ə)nˈseɪʃ(ə)n/
    noun
    1. 1. 
      something, typically money, awarded to someone in recognition of loss, suffering, or injury.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    PopIcon said:
    stonemuse said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    We are in massive trouble. 

    I get that Southall is in a tricky position, we don't want to offer decent money and then find ourselves in League 1, but this is similar to the summer where we are missing out on decent players because we can't offer that bit extra. 
    We are not in massive trouble ... Lee about to sign, a number of players being looked at, players returning from injury, 5 points clear of relegation and a better goal difference. 


    I like your rose tinted glasses, but Lee hasn't signed, neither have any players. None of the returning players are match fit and we're in relegation form.
    Plus we've just been told our new owners dont yet own our stadium.
    I hope come Jan 31st we have turned a corner, but the proof is in the pudding.
    Rose-tinted? Define massive trouble. To me that is a few points adrift at the bottom of the table in April. 

    Lee has basically said he is signing soon.  Lyle is an unknown. Returning players will get match fit. 

    And the stadium will be resolved in the next 3-4 months. 

    We may not be in a great place but we are absolutely not in massive trouble. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,110
    arguing the difference between “not in a great place”’and “massive trouble” is a sign of being in massive trouble. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    se9addick said:
    SouthLincsAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    se9addick said:
    If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.

    It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.  
    Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more.
    If they don't they will get nothing.

    As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.
    I doubt we’ve met the break clause either (which I understand to be £2.5M), we’ve just bid an amount that Peterborough are happy with rather than getting nothing in a few months.

    If I’m Maddison then I’m thinking that every pound spent whatsoever by a team on a fee  for me in January is a pound less in my pocket if I wait until the summer. 

    As I said, and unless his salary is going to double/triple, then I didn’t really know why Maddison would want to move now and miss the chance to be a free agent at a time when my stock is high, which is pretty much the ideal scenario from the perspective of a professional footballers earning potential.
    Apparently the release clause reduced as his contract ran down. MacAnthony also said the payment wasn't all up front but depending on appearance, promotion etc... Posh fans were speculating they'd get £750,000 tops.
    Ah that’s interesting.

    £750K still feels like a lot for a third tier player who only has a few months left on his deal but maybe that’s the price of apples these days! 
    And he sounds like a rotten apple.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    se9addick said:
    arguing the difference between “not in a great place”’and “massive trouble” is a sign of being in massive trouble. 
    You have a strange perception of circumstances ... there is a world of difference in the two statements.

    For me, ‘Not in a great place’ means we are in bottom half of table ... I still think we will finish top half so it’s temporary only. 

    ‘Massive trouble’ means bottom and many points adrift. 

    ‘Not in a great place’ is recoverable ... ‘massive trouble’ means it may be too late. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,410
    Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,946
    Lincsaddick said:
    Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
    He's 26, Lincs - pushing 30 is probably stretching it a bit too far.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    Lincsaddick said:
    Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
    He's 26, Lincs. Should be approaching his prime.


  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,410
    bobmunro said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
    He's 26, Lincs - pushing 30 is probably stretching it a bit too far.
    right, he's not so ancient as I thought ((:>)
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,224
    Oggy Red said:
    cafcsinger said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Why does this bloke talk in instalments? 
    Because he writes for The Sun.
    He has to write short simple sentences so that Sun Readers can understand.

    A bit like Janet and John books ..... "The cat sat on the mat".
    You know what I mean.




    The Pap hid in the bush. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    Lincsaddick said:
    Maddison is pushing 30 years of age, contracts he makes now are crucial for him as there won't be many more chances to really make some nice lo££y .. we are in competition and must pay the price or walk away
    Pushing 30 !
    The posts are getting more and more bizarre (sorry Lincs).
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,797
    edited January 2020
    Covered End said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    se9addick said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    I'm hoping we are on to Chelsea for a loan as compensation for loss of Gallagher. Must be some leverage surely? 
    With Chelsea? We have absolutely none, they fulfilled their contractual obligations. If we kick off then they’ll never loan us another player again.
    The leverage we have with Chelsea is that we did a good job with Conor and didn't kick up a fuss or demanded compensation for them recalling him in the way they did.
    What compensation were we due for Chelsea taking their player back as agreed in the contract ?
    None, I was answering a previous post that mentioned it
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,290
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    We’ll win on Saturday, considering this is a rumours thread, you heard it here first.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    That’s the spirit


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  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,462
    Based on that Pratley is pushing 40 haha
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,421

  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    So you are saying we are not in trouble?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,110
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    I love the specificity is with which you define throwaway phrases!
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    PopIcon said:
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    So you are saying we are not in trouble?
    Ladies & Gentlemen,

    May I take this opportunity to remind you to take all your 'we is doomed' posts to the Relegation thread?

    The January 2020 transfer rumours thread is solely reserved for all sorts of guff regarding signing players that never sign for us.

    Thank you.


  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    PopIcon said:
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    So you are saying we are not in trouble?
    This is crazy, why do I have to be so repetitive ... we are not in massive trouble.  

    And personally, I do not believe we are in trouble at all. This is temporary. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    se9addick said:
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    I love the specificity is with which you define throwaway phrases!
    Glad to hear it. 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    I thought we needed signings before the weekend?.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,505
    stonemuse said:
    PopIcon said:
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    So you are saying we are not in trouble?
    This is crazy, why do I have to be so repetitive ... we are not in massive trouble.  

    And personally, I do not believe we are in trouble at all. This is temporary. 
    Glad to see that you don't think we are in trouble. One win in fifteen is nothing to worry about and fortunately we don't have any injury problems.

    Just a blip.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,093
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    stonemuse said:
    PopIcon said:
    stonemuse said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    One win in fifteen is bordering on massive trouble if things don’t turn around pretty damned quick.  
    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table at end March is bordering on massive trouble. 

    3 points adrift at the bottom of the table in mid-April is massive trouble. 

    Currently we are not in, nor do we border, massive trouble. 


    So you are saying we are not in trouble?
    This is crazy, why do I have to be so repetitive ... we are not in massive trouble.  

    And personally, I do not believe we are in trouble at all. This is temporary. 
    Glad to see that you don't think we are in trouble. One win in fifteen is nothing to worry about and fortunately we don't have any injury problems.

    Just a blip.
    Glad you agree  :)

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