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  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    ForeverAddickted said:
    snowinberlin said:
    golfaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl-statement-bolton-wanderers-and-bury-fc/

    Sort it by 5.00pm on Monday 29th (today) or EFL will suspend their opening fixtures
    So 12 noon becomes 5pm. What's the betting that 5pm become noon tomorrow. The EFL couldnt run the proverbial in a brewery. 
    What have the EFL done wrong here in your eyes?  They are being quite clear and thinking about all FL members as it affects everyone.
    Because as per the statement further up this thread - the EFL have already pushed one deadline back for Bury (they initially had until 12noon today) so fully expect them to piss around and do it again
    OK but they wouldn't have done that without good reason, what should they do then?  Tell them they missed the deadline and throw them out of the league?

    Seems like they are caught between a rock and a hard place
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited July 2019
    snowinberlin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    snowinberlin said:
    golfaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl-statement-bolton-wanderers-and-bury-fc/

    Sort it by 5.00pm on Monday 29th (today) or EFL will suspend their opening fixtures
    So 12 noon becomes 5pm. What's the betting that 5pm become noon tomorrow. The EFL couldnt run the proverbial in a brewery. 
    What have the EFL done wrong here in your eyes?  They are being quite clear and thinking about all FL members as it affects everyone.
    Because as per the statement further up this thread - the EFL have already pushed one deadline back for Bury (they initially had until 12noon today) so fully expect them to piss around and do it again
    OK but they wouldn't have done that without good reason, what should they do then?  Tell them they missed the deadline and throw them out of the league?

    Seems like they are caught between a rock and a hard place
    Its not about throwing them out the League though

    Its about getting Saturdays game cancelled for each of them

    Either stick to the original deadlines and cancel the game or dont - Dont piss about as there will be fans who'll be wanting to make travel plans

    i.e. What about the MK Dons fans who are waiting to see if they need to book train travel up there or not as those ticket prices arent going to stand still are they?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    40 minutes till deadline.

    Hope both clubs make it
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    paulie8290 said:
    40 minutes till deadline.

    Hope both clubs make it
    Be frustrating for the away fans but wonder how much the clubs care about the fixtures being fulfilled on Saturday, they'll surely be re-arranged for a later date instead of MK Dons / Wycombe being awarded the three points
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    Will the clubs be deducted points..? I dont think anything happened to Bolton  after the final game last season.
  • WelshAddick
    WelshAddick Posts: 1,321
    golfaddick said:
    Will the clubs be deducted points..? I dont think anything happened to Bolton  after the final game last season.
    They will get points deducted for not fulfilling a game. It’s up to
    6 points penalty. 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Both clubs already on minus 12.

    Any poor teams in League 1 could get really lucky this season, lack of players and points deductions for Bolton and Bury mean chances are only 2 other teams will go down
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    paulie8290 said:
    Both clubs already on minus 12.

    Any poor teams in League 1 could get really lucky this season, lack of players and points deductions for Bolton and Bury mean chances are only 2 other teams will go down
    Basically AFC Wimbledon and Accrington could get another season at that level as those two surely have the smallest budgets in the League?
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,615
    snowinberlin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    snowinberlin said:
    golfaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl-statement-bolton-wanderers-and-bury-fc/

    Sort it by 5.00pm on Monday 29th (today) or EFL will suspend their opening fixtures
    So 12 noon becomes 5pm. What's the betting that 5pm become noon tomorrow. The EFL couldnt run the proverbial in a brewery. 
    What have the EFL done wrong here in your eyes?  They are being quite clear and thinking about all FL members as it affects everyone.
    Because as per the statement further up this thread - the EFL have already pushed one deadline back for Bury (they initially had until 12noon today) so fully expect them to piss around and do it again
    OK but they wouldn't have done that without good reason, what should they do then?  Tell them they missed the deadline and throw them out of the league?

    Seems like they are caught between a rock and a hard place
    Oi, no fish puns...
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    Any news......or has the 5pm deadline been  pushed back until tomorrow   ???
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    paulie8290 said:
    Both clubs already on minus 12.

    Any poor teams in League 1 could get really lucky this season, lack of players and points deductions for Bolton and Bury mean chances are only 2 other teams will go down
    So have they not been given another 6 points deduction for failing to fulfill their last fixture of last season...??
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    golfaddick said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Both clubs already on minus 12.

    Any poor teams in League 1 could get really lucky this season, lack of players and points deductions for Bolton and Bury mean chances are only 2 other teams will go down
    So have they not been given another 6 points deduction for failing to fulfill their last fixture of last season...??
    Jeez, do you slow down for car crashes?
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    golfaddick said:
    Any news......or has the 5pm deadline been  pushed back until tomorrow   ???
    Wycombe v Bolton is ON
    Bury v MK Dons is SUSPENDED
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    BOLTON WANDERERS

    At its meeting today, the EFL Board was appraised of the position in regard to the outstanding information requested in respect of ongoing matters at Bolton Wanderers.

    The Board has fully considered the Club’s further submissions and is satisfied that they are sufficient to meet the requirements of the League subject to the completion of formal documentation.

    As a result the EFL Board has opted not to suspend their opening day fixture with Wycombe Wanderers and it will remain as originally scheduled on Saturday 3 August 2019 at 3pm.

    BURY

    Following continued and comprehensive discussions with the ownership at Bury and other interested parties throughout Monday, the EFL Board is not satisfied it has received the necessary evidence in regard to the outstanding information it requires that demonstrates how the Club will be funded moving forwards.

    As a result of not meeting Monday’s 5pm deadline, which had been extended on two previous occasions, the EFL Board feels it has been placed in an unenviable position and, regrettably, has opted to take the reluctant decision to suspend Saturday’s opening day fixture with MK Dons under the provision of EFL Regulation 28.2.

    In addition, the EFL Board, if not in possession of the necessary evidence by 12pm on Friday 2 August 2019, will make a determination as to whether to suspend Bury’s away fixture at Accrington Stanley on Saturday 10 August 2019.

    As has been the case throughout this entire process, the EFL will continue to offer its full assistance to the ownership at Bury, but remains clear that while the League is here to support the Club through some extremely complex and complicated issues, the outstanding matters can only be resolved with the cooperation from the Club itself.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    So will the EFL ensure that MK Dons fans get refunds for their wasted travel costs?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    This isn't looking good for Bury, has this ever happened before? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Cafc43v3r said:
    This isn't looking good for Bury, has this ever happened before? 
    Dont even remember this happening when Luton and Portsmouth were in their darkest of days - Let alone the fact that Bury should be on a bloody high after getting promotion last term
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    This isn't looking good for Bury, has this ever happened before? 
    Dont even remember this happening when Luton and Portsmouth were in their darkest of days - Let alone the fact that Bury should be on a bloody high after getting promotion last term
    Or even Blackpool when Riga was there and they had about 8 pros the Thursday before the season started. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,615
    edited July 2019
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    This isn't looking good for Bury, has this ever happened before? 
    Dont even remember this happening when Luton and Portsmouth were in their darkest of days - Let alone the fact that Bury should be on a bloody high after getting promotion last term
    Or even Blackpool when Riga was there and they had about 8 pros the Thursday before the season started. 
    Or even Charlton last season when we didn’t even have a full bench and there were posters on CL going into meltdown because we were going to be relegated...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Seems the PFA have recused Bolton by giving them a £2m loan which'll allow the takeover to complete and so allow Bolton to play against Wycombe on the weekend - Makes me wonder though why the same wasnt done for Bury???
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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Maidstone Utd went bankrupt and had to reform close enough to an away league fixture for a match programme to be made 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Seems the PFA have recused Bolton by giving them a £2m loan which'll allow the takeover to complete and so allow Bolton to play against Wycombe on the weekend - Makes me wonder though why the same wasnt done for Bury???
    Because I suppose they dont have faith that they will get their money back. 

    And because Bolton are a bigger club obviously. 🙂
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11719/11773099/burys-league-one-opening-match-against-mk-dons-on-saturday-suspended

    Seems that Bury will also face disciplinary action for not completing the fixture this Saturday

    Hang on, wasnt them that asked for it to be suspended in the first place!!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
    I THINK the Efl are worried they won’t complete the season so don’t want them playing any fixtures until they can prove otherwise.


  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,620
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.

    Didnt the EFL admit that they let it pass in December as they didnt want Bury to fold and agreed for the new owner to send in the "fit & proper" papers later......which he still hasnt satisfied. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,725
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
    It's alright though because MK Dons will have their full name in the programme at Wimbledon this year. Shambles.
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    Croydon said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
    It's alright though because MK Dons will have their full name in the programme at Wimbledon this year. Shambles.
    Whats the point you're trying to make here?  making a club respect the name of an opponent is a shambles?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    snowinberlin said:
    Croydon said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
    It's alright though because MK Dons will have their full name in the programme at Wimbledon this year. Shambles.
    Whats the point you're trying to make here?  making a club respect the name of an opponent is a shambles?
    The point is instead of focussing on important matters like poor ownership, they EFL are more bothered by trivial matters
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    paulie8290 said:
    snowinberlin said:
    Croydon said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Not quite sure i understand the Bury situation. They obviously have players and can play the fixture, as they've been playing pre-season friendlies. They won at Port Vale at the weekend.

    But the EFL call the game off.

    Meanwhile owner Steve Dale has still not satisfied the League, according to its rules, that he has the money to run the club, which he bought for £1 in December.

    So from that we can safely assume that the EFL didn't do any proper checks.

    Now the EFL announce that Bury will face a disciplinary committee for failing to fulfil a fixture.

    Another job well done by the EFL.
    It's alright though because MK Dons will have their full name in the programme at Wimbledon this year. Shambles.
    Whats the point you're trying to make here?  making a club respect the name of an opponent is a shambles?
    The point is instead of focussing on important matters like poor ownership, they EFL are more bothered by trivial matters
    They are aren't they?  looks like they are trying everything they can to help these 2 clubs.  What is it they aren't doing you think they should do?

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