1745 history posts from Happy valley Around 400 'ITK' posts from the likes of Jimmy Seed, Doucher, NLA and Redhenry. 58 posts from Henry Irving telling us why he deserves a promote. 106 posts from Napa justifying a 77m price tag. 6 posts from Dazzler telling us about his Grindr date on a train. And the rest are absolute nonsense.
I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Don’t be silly, can’t put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Lawrence was backed in the transfer market.
In the close season before the start of the 85/86 season he was given the resources to bring in John Humprey, Steve Thomson, John Pearson, George Shipley, Mark Reid, and John Pender. Compared to previous close seasons this represented a huge outlay on new players. Later on in the season Jim Melrose was added to give a final push to promotion. Lawrence chose well and promotion was achieved. The sting in the tail was leaving the Valley for Selhurst Park.
& Jimmy Loveridge ..................... The only one of LLs signings that summer who wasn't a success.
John Pearson was signed at the end of 84/85 season, last game of the season it was announced at halftime that we had signed JP for 100k which was a huge fee for us at that time
Didn't we sign Steve Thomson to replace John Pender who got injured after only a few games & if that's correct who played alongside Pender at the start of the season ?
Les Berry?
He certainly played a handful of games that season.
Didn't think he did but could be wrong.
Almost certain he didn't start the season as it was a brand new back four
I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Don’t be silly, can’t put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Lawrence was backed in the transfer market.
In the close season before the start of the 85/86 season he was given the resources to bring in John Humprey, Steve Thomson, John Pearson, George Shipley, Mark Reid, and John Pender. Compared to previous close seasons this represented a huge outlay on new players. Later on in the season Jim Melrose was added to give a final push to promotion. Lawrence chose well and promotion was achieved. The sting in the tail was leaving the Valley for Selhurst Park.
& Jimmy Loveridge ..................... The only one of LLs signings that summer who wasn't a success.
John Pearson was signed at the end of 84/85 season, last game of the season it was announced at halftime that we had signed JP for 100k which was a huge fee for us at that time
Didn't we sign Steve Thomson to replace John Pender who got injured after only a few games & if that's correct who played alongside Pender at the start of the season ?
Les Berry?
He certainly played a handful of games that season.
Didn't think he did but could be wrong.
Almost certain he didn't start the season as it was a brand new back four
Just checked Home and Away and Thompson was partnered by Berry in the first match of the season against Barnsley.
Pender was back for the next game. In all Les played seven times that season.
I was just on a 486 to North Greenwich and some bloke called Gary told me Roland the Rat and Dalman had adjoining rooms last night at the Clarendon and LB met them for a shandy in the bar. It's happening.
I was just on a 486 to North Greenwich and some bloke called Gary told me Roland the Rat and Dalman had adjoining rooms last night at the Clarendon and LB met them for a shandy in the bar. It's happening.
Dazzler was getting a hand shandy off his Brighton mate in the toilets.
I was just on a 486 to North Greenwich and some bloke called Gary told me Roland the Rat and Dalman had adjoining rooms last night at the Clarendon and LB met them for a shandy in the bar. It's happening.
Dazzler was getting a hand shandy off his Brighton mate in the toilets.
They were the only 2 blokes to be seen in the toilets at the Spice Girls concert.
I was just on a 486 to North Greenwich and some bloke called Gary told me Roland the Rat and Dalman had adjoining rooms last night at the Clarendon and LB met them for a shandy in the bar. It's happening.
Dazzler was getting a hand shandy off his Brighton mate in the toilets.
They were the only 2 blokes to be seen in the toilets at the Spice Girls concert.
Both using the private cubicle..................together.
I was just on a 486 to North Greenwich and some bloke called Gary told me Roland the Rat and Dalman had adjoining rooms last night at the Clarendon and LB met them for a shandy in the bar. It's happening.
Dazzler was getting a hand shandy off his Brighton mate in the toilets.
They were the only 2 blokes to be seen in the toilets at the Spice Girls concert.
1745 history posts from Happy valley Around 400 'ITK' posts from the likes of Jimmy Seed, Doucher, NLA and Redhenry. 58 posts from Henry Irving telling us why he deserves a promote. 106 posts from Napa justifying a 77m price tag. 6 posts from Dazzler telling us about his Grindr date on a train. And the rest are absolute nonsense.
It is actually possible that that price (£33m) was agreed all that time ago. How we’d laugh...
Staying on track. I hope I'm on the right lines here but I had very interesting long chats to two men I was a stranger too on trains. Both guys told be so many things about the behind the scenes activities at Cafc. I can spell bullshit from 10 paces but I believed both of these guys 100% ?
It was enjoyable traveling with Johnny Humphrey from London Bridge to Charlton and again from Charlton to London Bridge after a game last season where Charlton and Wolves the team Johnny spent his earlier career with was talked about as well as JH career as PE and football coach at a school.(the team from Surrey wasn't mentioned)
Also had a great chat with Paul Mortimer about the Rooney rule and all things Charlton from new Eltham to London and London to East Croydon.
Neither had a clue about how the SOC would pan out
Ps. Please PM me for time of trains, stops and numbers.
Best right back since I have been going, way back in '76.
Agree Elf's, By a strange quirk of fate, my fav LB was Rhoys Wiggins and we ended up sitting next to each other for the Donny home semi final. As we know injuries ruined his career and it's sad to hear him say that the 2 years he lost when at Palace at just 17 stopped him reaching his potential. I don't usually brown nose players but did say he played some great stuff for Cafc with his attacking wing back runs when fit. It's crazy to think that at just 30 he had to find a new career. Rhoys is studying sports nutrition and living in Bucks. Rarely goes to football now as I think it has too many sad memories at the moment, he also said when on loan at Birmingham he felt that the knee injury would be his lot as not only was his knee spent but unfortunately so was his spirit. Another good guy who has played for Cafc and he never wanted to leave(settled with his family in Shortlands) but having signed the contract he then had more injuries, he realized that he would be moved on as football is a cut throat business.
Ps. Heard on CL that he went to the final as well.
I met Humphrey the once when seeing us out in Sweden in '89, a cracking fella as well.
A fantastic right back and easily the best I’ve seen at Charlton in my time (which post-dates Billy Bonds). John Humphrey would certainly have played for England in the late 80s if he’d played for the ‘right’ club. Gary Stevens of Everton, the regular England right back, was good going forward but not a patch on John Humphrey’s arse defensively.
I liked Royce Wiggins very much and agree that he would have had a career in the Premier League but for injury. All players must live in fear of that - hence the need to cut these lads a bit of slack when they look to try and secure their and their families’ futures.
Not sure if that has been posted already, but was dated on 6th May 2019, having got our final league position wrong in the statement, it has also said they’re one of three to be in the running and that they’re currently raising capital and looking for any extra interest.
It also says it was published by the Australian Football Consortium (AFC).
How real that is I don’t know. Just thought I’d share it.
Just wondering what is the very last day when new owners could buy the club allowing a decent amount of time to make new signings? I’m guessing 28th June?
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Last battle fought on British Soil at Culludon where a Scot with a French accent and an army of Scots is defeated by a German with an army of Scots
On to Anfield now (54,074)
Almost certain he didn't start the season as it was a brand new back four
Pender was back for the next game. In all Les played seven times that season.
Culloden.
Both bonny men.
One says bonnie Prince Charlie stayed here 1744 the other says the Duke of Cumberland stayed here 1746.
Or something similar.
I liked Royce Wiggins very much and agree that he would have had a career in the Premier League but for injury. All players must live in fear of that - hence the need to cut these lads a bit of slack when they look to try and secure their and their families’ futures.
Not sure if that has been posted already, but was dated on 6th May 2019, having got our final league position wrong in the statement, it has also said they’re one of three to be in the running and that they’re currently raising capital and looking for any extra interest.
It also says it was published by the Australian Football Consortium (AFC).
How real that is I don’t know. Just thought I’d share it.