I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Donβt be silly, canβt put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didnβt pay a fee for anyone but letβs be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Donβt get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Any manager that wins promotion has achieved something special. Let's face it, in the last 40 years only 5 managers have achieved it at Charlton.
It's slightly disingenuous to suggest Curbs was backed. That 98 squad took a long time to build and Β£700k on Mendonca was backing but not in the realm of what other clubs could do, more significantly neither were wages.
Bowyer joins a group of excellent managers, all of whom have achieved their promotions on relative shoestrings.
It's ludicrous he hasn't been given a suitable contract. Let's hope this thread dies for the right reason as soon as possible and get his future tied down.
Lee Bowyer is not the best manager we have ever had. He's the best manager we have; and he's a better manager than anyone else we could get at this time. He could become the best manager we have ever had; but only if we keep him. We would cope without him; but we wouldn't do as well with anyone else.
To compare him, as a manager, with Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or even Powell is utterly ridiculous and serves no point. However, it is worth pointing out that, unlike Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or Powell, he could still become Charlton's greatest-ever manager.
Retaining him is the second-most important, second-most urgent task right now.
Yes Bowyer did a superb job. But it is important to get it in perspective, in L1 even under Roland we were still a big fish.
The Championship is a massive step up though, without a takeover 4th bottom will be a great achievement
Despite Cafc being a big fish in League 1, it was a fantastic achievement for Bowyer to reel in the other slippery contenders last season. Having trawled through the record books it was one of the best clamaxes to a season for years and all Charlton fins had a whale of a time at Wembley despite being squashed like sardines waiting for the train afterwards.
Roachdale and Scunny may be minnows but needed to be battered for us to take our Plaice in the fry-offs. Roeland Is a basket case and only Parker from the Gills was added in the window.
For Lee Bowyer to hook the big whopper Sarr at HT after his bait pass went in the net took courage.
Now back to the sole of Charlton.
You took all the puns in one post? That's just shellfish...
Yes Bowyer did a superb job. But it is important to get it in perspective, in L1 even under Roland we were still a big fish.
The Championship is a massive step up though, without a takeover 4th bottom will be a great achievement
Despite Cafc being a big fish in League 1, it was a fantastic achievement for Bowyer to reel in the other slippery contenders last season. Having trawled through the record books it was one of the best clamaxes to a season for years and all Charlton fins had a whale of a time at Wembley despite being squashed like sardines waiting for the train afterwards.
Roachdale and Scunny may be minnows but needed to be battered for us to take our Plaice in the fry-offs. Roeland Is a basket case and only Parker from the Gills was added in the window.
For Lee Bowyer to hook the big whopper Sarr at HT after his bait pass went in the net took courage.
Now back to the sole of Charlton.
You took all the puns in one post? That's just shellfish...
Lee Bowyer is not the best manager we have ever had. He's the best manager we have; and he's a better manager than anyone else we could get at this time. He could become the best manager we have ever had; but only if we keep him. We would cope without him; but we wouldn't do as well with anyone else.
To compare him, as a manager, with Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or even Powell is utterly ridiculous and serves no point. However, it is worth pointing out that, unlike Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or Powell, he could still become Charlton's greatest-ever manager.
Retaining him is the second-most important, second-most urgent task right now.
Youβre right, heβs not yet but he certainly could be given the right support.
I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Donβt be silly, canβt put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didnβt pay a fee for anyone but letβs be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Donβt get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Any manager that wins promotion has achieved something special. Let's face it, in the last 40 years only 5 managers have achieved it at Charlton.
It's slightly disingenuous to suggest Curbs was backed. That 98 squad took a long time to build and Β£700k on Mendonca was backing but not in the realm of what other clubs could do, more significantly neither were wages.
Bowyer joins a group of excellent managers, all of whom have achieved their promotions on relative shoestrings.
It's ludicrous he hasn't been given a suitable contract. Let's hope this thread dies for the right reason as soon as possible and get his future tied down.
Bit of a strange statistic given three of the successful managers account for 27 of the 40 years (and 12 of their seasons were in the top flight which made promotion impossible).
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
@PopIcon Which bit of my post did you find "funny"?
The bit about Bowyer becoming our best manager ever. Brilliant stuff, keep it coming.
I said that's possible. Do you disagree?
It's possible that we are secretly brothers, torn from our mothers teet at birth, its possible that I might wake up in the morning to find out I've grown a pair of tits and my penis has grown inwards, it's also possible that Ben Reeves will get an England call up for next years Euro's.
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
@PopIcon Which bit of my post did you find "funny"?
The bit about Bowyer becoming our best manager ever. Brilliant stuff, keep it coming.
I said that's possible. Do you disagree?
It's possible that we are secretly brothers, torn from our mothers teet at birth, its possible that I might wake up in the morning to find out I've grown a pair of tits and my penis has grown inwards, it's also possible that Ben Reeves will get an England call up for next years Euro's.
@PopIcon Which bit of my post did you find "funny"?
The bit about Bowyer becoming our best manager ever. Brilliant stuff, keep it coming.
I said that's possible. Do you disagree?
It's possible that we are secretly brothers, torn from our mothers teet at birth, its possible that I might wake up in the morning to find out I've grown a pair of tits and my penis has grown inwards, it's also possible that Ben Reeves will get an England call up for next years Euro's.
@PopIcon Which bit of my post did you find "funny"?
The bit about Bowyer becoming our best manager ever. Brilliant stuff, keep it coming.
I said that's possible. Do you disagree?
It's possible that we are secretly brothers, torn from our mothers teet at birth, its possible that I might wake up in the morning to find out I've grown a pair of tits and my penis has grown inwards, it's also possible that Ben Reeves will get an England call up for next years Euro's.
Unlikely, with your spelling.
Brilliant! You have the wit of a genius and the face of a gaping toad.
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!! PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
I automatically thought that Bows would go to Belgium, or they would talk on the phone. If Rolly came over one would think that there was more involved.
@PopIcon Which bit of my post did you find "funny"?
The bit about Bowyer becoming our best manager ever. Brilliant stuff, keep it coming.
I said that's possible. Do you disagree?
It's possible that we are secretly brothers, torn from our mothers teet at birth, its possible that I might wake up in the morning to find out I've grown a pair of tits and my penis has grown inwards, it's also possible that Ben Reeves will get an England call up for next years Euro's.
I've never heard anything so ridiculous.
Especially considering he has caps for another FIFA nation.
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It's slightly disingenuous to suggest Curbs was backed. That 98 squad took a long time to build and Β£700k on Mendonca was backing but not in the realm of what other clubs could do, more significantly neither were wages.
Bowyer joins a group of excellent managers, all of whom have achieved their promotions on relative shoestrings.
It's ludicrous he hasn't been given a suitable contract. Let's hope this thread dies for the right reason as soon as possible and get his future tied down.
To compare him, as a manager, with Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or even Powell is utterly ridiculous and serves no point. However, it is worth pointing out that, unlike Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or Powell, he could still become Charlton's greatest-ever manager.
Retaining him is the second-most important, second-most urgent task right now.
The world is my Oyster
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
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