The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Muir with a Charlton scarfMal said:None of us know what the fk is going on at the moment, other than u all trying to take bites out of each other. For me, what will be a tell tale sign - if we dont hear anything by Saturday - is who turns up in the Directors box come Shrewsbury game.
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Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.Cafc43v3r said:
Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.JamesSeed said:
Excluding the Aussies.Cafc43v3r said:The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.
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It certainly won't be RDMal said:None of us know what the fk is going on at the moment, other than u all trying to take bites out of each other. For me, what will be a tell tale sign - if we dont hear anything by Saturday - is who turns up in the Directors box come Shrewsbury game.
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Like your thinking, Will !cafcwill said:Has anyone considered that the silence is because the NDA is as tight as ever because it's due to be announced?
The silence is definitely deafening but could be very good news
If the deal was dead thrn the NDA would be no longer in force and we'd hear more (wouldn't we?)
(Don't claim to be in the know, just trying to put together the jigsaw that is Charltons Takeover)1 -
If the Aussies wanted the club, they would surely have sorted it now... they are fast becoming time wasters. They have said nothing since that joint statement, if they are struggling to raise the funds to buy the club, then where will they fund the next few years?JamesSeed said:
Excluding the Aussies.Cafc43v3r said:The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.
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Funny how things change. A few pages back many were agreeing it had fallen through and it would soon be confirmed as off by the club.cafcwill said:Has anyone considered that the silence is because the NDA is as tight as ever because it's due to be announced?
The silence is definitely deafening but could be very good news
If the deal was dead thrn the NDA would be no longer in force and we'd hear more (wouldn't we?)
(Don't claim to be in the know, just trying to put together the jigsaw that is Charltons Takeover)
Just another day on the takeover infinity loop.4 -
GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
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Can only have 5 in match day squad, if we have not brought in any others would these be enough? considering how well we did with 5 loanees last season where only 2 were goodTaxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
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Trust me, with JFC, it really is as bad as the medical team have said.cafc-west said:
Unless it means they get the club at a price that they want (and have probably already agreed) - and are confident at getting in free agents and loans by the end of August. My own personal conspiracy theory (and overly optimistic hope) is that Fosu, Vetokele and JFC's injuries aren't as bad as the medical team are saying - its just LB keeping them out of the shop window...!se9addick said:
But why would the Aussies just accept Duchâtelet trashing the asset that they are about to purchase at great expense? It just doesn’t make any sense.Sambo_1 said:It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.
With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.
I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.
And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..0 -
A bit like supermarket sweep then, with the Douchebag running against the clock, filling his grubby little trolley with the highest value assets? I think I'd settle for that if he's gone when the transfer window closes.Sambo_1 said:
TypoSambo_1 said:It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.
With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.
I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.
And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..
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I dont want to speculate but i will take a guess that maybe the Aussies have agreed to give Roland until end of transfer window to raise as much money as he can from player sales.se9addick said:
But why would the Aussies just accept Duchâtelet trashing the asset that they are about to purchase at great expense? It just doesn’t make any sense.Sambo_1 said:It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.
With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.
I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.
And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..
To help contribute towards clearing director loans. So it's less money he's having to pay with his own money, to make sale go through.
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But this time we won’t be shopping with Rolwnd miserly budget. We can go for the bigger earnersross1 said:
Can only have 5 in match day squad, if we have not brought in any others would these be enough? considering how well we did with 5 loanees last season where only 2 were goodTaxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
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And if this is the plan things might even be lined up ready0
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You're making assumptions, which with this takeover is almost the definition of time wasting.PeteF said:
If the Aussies wanted the club, they would surely have sorted it now... they are fast becoming time wasters. They have said nothing since that joint statement, if they are struggling to raise the funds to buy the club, then where will they fund the next few years?JamesSeed said:
Excluding the Aussies.Cafc43v3r said:The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.
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The trouble is many people also said they'd take relegation to League One if it meant RD goes but 2 years on and he's still here.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
A bit like supermarket sweep then, with the Douchebag running against the clock, filling his grubby little trolley with the highest value assets? I think I'd settle for that if he's gone when the transfer window closes.Sambo_1 said:
TypoSambo_1 said:It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.
With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.
I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.
And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..
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I dont want to speculate but i will take a guess that maybe the Aussies have agreed to give Roland until end of transfer window to raise as much money as he can from player sales.se9addick said:
But why would the Aussies just accept Duchâtelet trashing the asset that they are about to purchase at great expense? It just doesn’t make any sense.Sambo_1 said:It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.
With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.
I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.
And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..
To help contribute towards clearing director loans. So it's less money he's having to pay with his own money, to make sale go through.
Just speculation though.
We're fast becoming a distant memory to the top two divisions.4 -
It makes no sense though to sell 2 or 3 key players, only to then spend money by replacing them with expensive loanees...Taxi_Lad said:
But this time we won’t be shopping with Rolwnd miserly budget. We can go for the bigger earnersross1 said:
Can only have 5 in match day squad, if we have not brought in any others would these be enough? considering how well we did with 5 loanees last season where only 2 were goodTaxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
I’m feeling positive4 -
GlassHalfFull said:
This is the last week for RD to get money in, other than from fans (good luck with that) or from the new owners paying for the club. It's his last chance to loot the roster - and if he can do so few can doubt that he will. Let this be the final week the clowns run the circus.
Although Silva has said he' staying, if Leipzig came up with an acceptable bid for Ademola, Mr Ducktape could potentially trouser £3m anytime up to the end of the mònth.GlassHalfFull said:
This is the last week for RD to get money in, other than from fans (good luck with that) or from the new owners paying for the club. It's his last chance to loot the roster - and if he can do so few can doubt that he will. Let this be the final week the clowns run the circus.0 -
Been away so not been following much online over the last week or so other than a bit of skim reading but....
Sense there is a bit of transfer window deadline firesale panic going on.
Whilst I’m in no way feeling positive about ANYTHING to do with Charlton at this point in time, it’s worth remembering we have had the same fears / expectations over the last few transfer window deadline weeks, and none of them have hit the worst outcome we feared.
So while I agree there’s a lot to be concerned about, it would be wise to see where we stand squad wise come Friday before collectively doing our pieces entirely imo4 -
Burn the witch anyway!AFKABartram said:Been away so not been following much online over the last week or so other than a bit of skim reading but....
Sense there is a bit of transfer window deadline firesale panic going on.
Whilst I’m in no way feeling positive about ANYTHING to do with Charlton at this point in time, it’s worth remembering we have had the same fears / expectations over the last few transfer window deadline weeks, and none of them have hit the worst outcome we feared.
So while I agree there’s a lot to be concerned about, it would be wise to see where we stand squad wise come Friday before collectively doing our pieces entirely imo1 -
Two points I’ve been thinking about recently :
Could the ‘two weeks of problems but it’ll be worth it’ be a reference to essentially Duchâtelet asset stripping and making as much cash as he can in order for him to lower his price to enable the Aussies to buy at the price their happy/can afford?
And secondly , having just listened to John salako talking about his ‘wealthy investors’ who would want to move to the peninsular - how likely is that to be josh Harris?
In the radio interview , salako was waiting for his man to return from New York ... and surely salako has had dealings with harris from his time at Crystal Palace - as well as Harris knowing about the benefits etc of Charlton at the peninsular after seeing slater& Jimenez’ plans when he was interested in the club months/weeks before Duchâtelet finally bought us
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Doesn't Harris own a stake in Palace ?sammy391 said:Two points I’ve been thinking about recently :
Could the ‘two weeks of problems but it’ll be worth it’ be a reference to essentially Duchâtelet asset stripping and making as much cash as he can in order for him to lower his price to enable the Aussies to buy at the price their happy/can afford?
And secondly , having just listened to Jon salako talking about his ‘wealthy investors’ who would want to move to the peninsular - how likely is that to be josh Harris?
In the radio interview , salako was waiting for his man to return from New York ... and surely salako has had dealings with harris from his time at Crystal Palace - as well as Harris knowing about the benefits etc of Charlton at the peninsular after seeing slater& Jimenez’ plans when he was interested in the club months/weeks before Duchâtelet finally bought us2 -
Believe it’s arround an 18% stakeCovered End said:
Doesn't Harris own a stake in Palace ?sammy391 said:Two points I’ve been thinking about recently :
Could the ‘two weeks of problems but it’ll be worth it’ be a reference to essentially Duchâtelet asset stripping and making as much cash as he can in order for him to lower his price to enable the Aussies to buy at the price their happy/can afford?
And secondly , having just listened to Jon salako talking about his ‘wealthy investors’ who would want to move to the peninsular - how likely is that to be josh Harris?
In the radio interview , salako was waiting for his man to return from New York ... and surely salako has had dealings with harris from his time at Crystal Palace - as well as Harris knowing about the benefits etc of Charlton at the peninsular after seeing slater& Jimenez’ plans when he was interested in the club months/weeks before Duchâtelet finally bought us
Whether he would sell that is another question (if it even is Harris who’s interested!) but I’m under the assumption that you can own up to 25% of another club before it becomes a problem?
EDIT: think it may be 30% allowance
“The fit and proper test applies to all directors and individuals holding more than a 30% shareholding. Anyone who owns more than this shareholding in a FA Premier League football club would fall outside the remit of the fit and proper test and would be unable to own another club.”0 -
But presumably, based on this theory, the Aussies would only tolerate this madness if it meant a reduction in the purchase price to something they find reasonable and/or Duchâtelet dealing with the directors or loans. If that’s the case, doesn’t that concern you about their long term ability to finance what is essentially a (heavy) loss making business?Taxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
I’m feeling positive0 -
se9addick said:
But presumably, based on this theory, the Aussies would only tolerate this madness if it meant a reduction in the purchase price to something they find reasonable and/or Duchâtelet dealing with the directors or loans.Taxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
I’m feeling positive
If that’s the case, doesn’t that concern you about their long term ability to finance what is essentially a (heavy) loss making business?
We've been here a number of times before.
Scoham's "Infinity Loop". Take 200.
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Players can still be sold across various European countries until the end of the month. Belgium's transfer window for instance, closes at the end of August.AFKABartram said:Been away so not been following much online over the last week or so other than a bit of skim reading but....
Sense there is a bit of transfer window deadline firesale panic going on.
Whilst I’m in no way feeling positive about ANYTHING to do with Charlton at this point in time, it’s worth remembering we have had the same fears / expectations over the last few transfer window deadline weeks, and none of them have hit the worst outcome we feared.
So while I agree there’s a lot to be concerned about, it would be wise to see where we stand squad wise come Friday before collectively doing our pieces entirely imo1 -
It's getting late, but this reds that you can't have a stake in more than one club.sammy391 said:
Believe it’s arround an 18% stakeCovered End said:
Doesn't Harris own a stake in Palace ?sammy391 said:Two points I’ve been thinking about recently :
Could the ‘two weeks of problems but it’ll be worth it’ be a reference to essentially Duchâtelet asset stripping and making as much cash as he can in order for him to lower his price to enable the Aussies to buy at the price their happy/can afford?
And secondly , having just listened to Jon salako talking about his ‘wealthy investors’ who would want to move to the peninsular - how likely is that to be josh Harris?
In the radio interview , salako was waiting for his man to return from New York ... and surely salako has had dealings with harris from his time at Crystal Palace - as well as Harris knowing about the benefits etc of Charlton at the peninsular after seeing slater& Jimenez’ plans when he was interested in the club months/weeks before Duchâtelet finally bought us
Whether he would sell that is another question (if it even is Harris who’s interested!) but I’m under the assumption that you can own up to 25% of another club before it becomes a problem?
EDIT: think it may be 30% allowance
“The fit and proper test applies to all directors and individuals holding more than a 30% shareholding. Anyone who owns more than this shareholding in a FA Premier League football club would fall outside the remit of the fit and proper test and would be unable to own another club.”
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/sections-10--11---association-and-dual-interests-and-additional-provisions/0 -
Think there will be plenty of empty seats!Mal said:None of us know what the fk is going on at the moment, other than u all trying to take bites out of each other. For me, what will be a tell tale sign - if we dont hear anything by Saturday - is who turns up in the Directors box come Shrewsbury game.
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Do you honestly think a company would agree a deal with another company but allow the seller to do what the fuck they want to effectively wreck the business before they take it over?Taxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
I’m feeling positive1 -
Most people are making assumptionsJamesSeed said:
You're making assumptions, which with this takeover is almost the definition of time wasting.PeteF said:
If the Aussies wanted the club, they would surely have sorted it now... they are fast becoming time wasters. They have said nothing since that joint statement, if they are struggling to raise the funds to buy the club, then where will they fund the next few years?JamesSeed said:
Excluding the Aussies.Cafc43v3r said:The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.
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And what seems not to have been mentioned, this is all on the assumption we will actually sell someone. What if we don't? Then this is a pointless exercise.se9addick said:
But presumably, based on this theory, the Aussies would only tolerate this madness if it meant a reduction in the purchase price to something they find reasonable and/or Duchâtelet dealing with the directors or loans. If that’s the case, doesn’t that concern you about their long term ability to finance what is essentially a (heavy) loss making business?Taxi_Lad said:GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window
I’m feeling positive0
