Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in our football club.
I have a dream that one day this club will rise up and live out the true meaning of a football team.
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Greenwich, the sons and daughters of former supporters will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that my three little grandchildren will one day live in a place where they will not be ridiculed for supporting our once great club.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Valley its spiteful owner will be gone and his memory long forgotten as our supporters once again come together to recreate the Valley roar.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day our valley shall be exalted and full.
This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to on Saturday.
The squad is paper thin, one or two injuries away from relaying on the likes of Lapsile, who isn’t ready for prime time.
We’re a week away from the close of the transfer window (yes I know about loans) and we started the season unable to name 7 on the bench.
We are in a fucking terrible state as a club, and no sign it’ll get better.
Lapslie played well yesterday.
Not an excuse for the pathetic transfer dealings this summer, but in Fosu, Reeves, Clarke and Igor we are missing a lot of players from our team at the moment. To use the cliche, when a couple of them return in say October, it will be like a new signing...
Would you ever play more than 2 of them in the same team?
You don't win anything with kids....where have I heard that before?
Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in our football club.
I have a dream that one day this club will rise up and live out the true meaning of a football team.
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Greenwich, the sons and daughters of former supporters will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that my three little grandchildren will one day live in a place where they will not be ridiculed for supporting our once great club.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Valley its spiteful owner will be gone and his memory long forgotten as our supporters once again come together to recreate the Valley roar.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day our valley shall be exalted and full.
This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to on Saturday.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
This has the makings of a very poor season. Few more sales? Say Bowyer walks next? Then where are we? Duchatelet seems intent on burning the club to the ground.
How anyone can be so certain of a relegation threat free season is either not the full ticket or hasn't been following Charlton for very long.
@PragueAddick go and ask the person who wrote the SLP article
The club has said many things all from the mouth of a liar or multiple liars
I have said on here where I got told the aussies had no money
It was laughed at because it came from the RD side
GM told James seed there was still two that needed to sign off
Now the fact the Aussies are again still being reported to be searching for investors and the deal is in real jeopardy and Keith harris is actively working on resolving
There are still those that wish to believe a statement from known liars
Richard Murray could tell me that today is sunday and my name is darren
I would still check the calendar and my driving licence
This whole dirty sorry saga has been going on here since October 2017 we are two months from a year
Instead of asking me where the evidence is to substantiate my claim that they don’t have it or have never had it
The real question should be prove that they have
When their own side is taking about still looking for investors 10 months later
I think my proof has been substantiated
Roland has screwed this great club to the floor by its balls and will continue to do so
Two possibly 3 parties have tickled his ego valuation enough for him to believe he is right
His valuation however absurd you or I may think it is people are looking and biting his hook
Something never sat right with me about the Aussie bid and I will be honest and happy to be proved wrong about them and we will only know should they have somehow found the funds since harris let out his snitbit
So from here on in it’s not me having to justify my posts mine have been proven right
It’s for the Aussies to put up or shut up stay or walk simple as
But all the time they are hanging around without completing it’s a black cloud not a silver lines one
Do you or do you not concede that Andrew Muir has the wherewithal to purchase the club if he so wished.....either as an individual or by raising his stake in the consortium?
I have answered that question so many times on here
One of their investors has a personal wealth to buy us on his own but chooses not too
We are not talking about Andrew Muir as a single entity we are talking about a consortium he is part of and right now we don’t know if he alone is holding is 10% 50% 85% of that consortium
I thought he has stated that he wants it to be a consortium of equals i.e. equal financial input from each investor?
Which is in need of further investigation then because if he only wants the same as for example 10 others then this consortium is doomed to fail
Sorry, that doesn’t make sense.
What do you mean ‘wants the same’?
There could be five investors all putting in £30m.
There could be 30 putting in a mil
Comments like that don't help.
But that’s the whole point we do not know just how many or how few we do not know their intentions at all
All we know is that in more than a yr they haven’t raised the relevant funds to invest according to their own deal broker
So it could well be as complex as 30 loan investors
Highly doubtful but still possible
There’s got to be more to the failure to complete so far other than Director loans there just has to be
And harris has now publicly stated what that issue is
Its dragging on because no one is willing to pay £47mn, that's the agreed price of £40mn and then add the Directors Loans. That's assuming the Australians had their complete syndicate together for the £40mn in the first place or since. The debate goes on but the price remains ridiculously the same, keeping buyers away.
I think all of us agree that his valuation is high and above what most think is reasonable
But we do know that the 40 mil has been bid by two parties
One Saudi one aussie
The 7mil I refuse to believe was unknown by RD or those bidding
I also think that it’s the easiest part to work through
The biggest indicator is harris quotes in SLP Friday
There are no quotes from Harris in the SLP and nothing to suggest that Rich has spoken to him. I'm not saying the story is wrong, but it's unlikely to have come direct from Harris in my opinion.
I forgot to ask NLA this...what is Harris supposed to have said, can you remind us? Ta.
Below is a link to the full article.
As you will see Harris is referred to but nothing in it is attributed to him:
So my immediate question for Richard Cawley is, were you aware of Mr de Turck's explanation at the FF only a week previously, and if so how does this version of the situation square with that one? In timing terms alone I am struggling to square the two versions of the status.
(which is not to dig out RC who does his best on limited resources and with us fnas very much in mind)
In fact on July 12th, more than three weeks previously.
OK so how do you square the two versions of the reasons for the hold up?
De Turck's statement from the FF is what's on the record. Clearly, Harris isn't. Neither are the EFL.
I know nothing about who said what to whom or when. I have been around a number of takeovers in my life and one of the things I have learned is that most of those involved act purely out of self interest, and will happily say or do anything to further their interests (especially off the record). The last thing they will care about are the employees or small shareholders - or in the case of Charlton the fans. You see this sort of behaviour all the time from Trump who likes to boast fo being a deal maker.
There is no point in fans falling out with each other - someone or more likely several people have not been telling the truth and are using others to further their cause and chances are we will never find out. There is only one person to whom pressure should be applied as ultimately he is the only one who can make the decision that matters. The fact that we cannot field a full team on the opening day of the season is just the latest demonstration of that idiot's incompetence - quite how any Metaxis shareholder trusts him with their investment is beyond me.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
How would you have changed it up? I agree it needed change but not sure what I’d have done with that bench. Even with a couple more youngsters on it.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
Use your Pitching Wedge with a 3/4 swing instead
That's the trouble with an 18 handicapper, doesn't have the skill to improvise.
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
My dad taught me how to get out of a plugged lie in a bunker using a pitching wedge. Close the face and smash into the sand. Works a treat!
Oh and the transfer of ownership will happen next Friday. (Sorry - joke in poor taste)
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
So LB should say in public, we cant get promotion, we are not good enough, that would be a good message for the players and the supporters, knowing how Lee was as a player, he will try to go out and win every match and that is the way it should be
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
In the words of Brian Potter: Woah woah woah... Sweet child of mine!
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
In the words of Brian Potter: Woah woah woah... Sweet child of mine!
The squad is paper thin, one or two injuries away from relaying on the likes of Lapsile, who isn’t ready for prime time.
We’re a week away from the close of the transfer window (yes I know about loans) and we started the season unable to name 7 on the bench.
We are in a fucking terrible state as a club, and no sign it’ll get better.
Lapslie played well yesterday.
Not an excuse for the pathetic transfer dealings this summer, but in Fosu, Reeves, Clarke and Igor we are missing a lot of players from our team at the moment. To use the cliche, when a couple of them return in say October, it will be like a new signing...
Would you ever play more than 2 of them in the same team?
You don't win anything with kids....where have I heard that before?
You certainly don't win anything with kids that have been sold.
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I don't like it any more than you men.
You’re gonna start a chain of gun n roses songs puns with that
We practice selective discreditation of posters and local journalists, For example, to create a vacuum. Then we fill that vacuum. As popular thought fragments, The takeover collapse is closer
We’re likely to get relegated, and yet we’re back to my source is better then your source.
We are not about to get relegated. Get a grip.
we may well be if our manager decides to play the next 45 games with just the 11 players he picks to start & only changes it when there is an injury, even though he clearly stated just days before that both Pratley & Taylor would probably not feature as they were not fit.
So you want us to change our manager, but if he does stay he should listen to you, like we will have to, for the next 45 games
I don't believe that I did. Just that LB should stop saying things in public about getting promotion, fielding 5 subs & then only playing one of them when everybody could see it needing changing up.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
So LB should say in public, we cant get promotion, we are not good enough, that would be a good message for the players and the supporters, knowing how Lee was as a player, he will try to go out and win every match and that is the way it should be
ffs.....just read what I said in the first line of my post. In public. To the press. What he says to the players during training is another matter. I would expect him to tell them to do their best, that he had faith in them & if they play as a team then who knows.
Seriously, if I was one of the players at the moment & LB said we were good enough for a top 2 spot I'd wonder if he was on the waccy baccy again. I'm sure they look around themselves during training & wonder where half their team mates are. From last season we are missing the 5 loanees plus Kashi, Konsa, Lennon & Magennis. Added to that we have Clarke, Fosu, Reeves & JFC injured & Dijikstel off sick. Thats 14 players......and all we have added is 2.
RD wants to save face i.e. avoid the possibility of new owners immediately getting the club promoted (something he wasn't able to do). So delays the sale until it is very hard for the new owners to muster a campaign that gets us promoted. That way he can say in his warped little world - " See they couldn't find success either"
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And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in our football club.
I have a dream that one day this club will rise up and live out the true meaning of a football team.
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Greenwich, the sons and daughters of former supporters will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that my three little grandchildren will one day live in a place where they will not be ridiculed for supporting our once great club.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Valley its spiteful owner will be gone and his memory long forgotten as our supporters once again come together to recreate the Valley roar.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day our valley shall be exalted and full.
This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to on Saturday.
Few more sales?
Say Bowyer walks next?
Then where are we?
Duchatelet seems intent on burning the club to the ground.
How anyone can be so certain of a relegation threat free season is either not the full ticket or hasn't been following Charlton for very long.
As a golfer I am only allowed 14 clubs in my bag. I could go out with less but ALL professional golfers carry the maximum as you never know what club you will need. Pro's carry a number of wedges - they would look pretty stupid breaking their sand wedge on the 12th hole & not having another wedge that they could use in an emergency & having to use a 7 iron instead.
Oh and the transfer of ownership will happen next Friday. (Sorry - joke in poor taste)
Woah woah woah...
Sweet child of mine!
Perhaps Thursday, or Friday, post window, could be key?
http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/80685/roland-departure-date-prediction#latest
For example, to create a vacuum.
Then we fill that vacuum.
As popular thought fragments,
The takeover collapse is closer
Seriously, if I was one of the players at the moment & LB said we were good enough for a top 2 spot I'd wonder if he was on the waccy baccy again. I'm sure they look around themselves during training & wonder where half their team mates are. From last season we are missing the 5 loanees plus Kashi, Konsa, Lennon & Magennis. Added to that we have Clarke, Fosu, Reeves & JFC injured & Dijikstel off sick. Thats 14 players......and all we have added is 2.
RD wants to save face i.e. avoid the possibility of new owners immediately getting the club promoted (something he wasn't able to do). So delays the sale until it is very hard for the new owners to muster a campaign that gets us promoted. That way he can say in his warped little world - " See they couldn't find success either"