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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    J BLOCK said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
    And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
    The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window

    I’m feeling positive

    Do you honestly think a company would agree a deal with another company but allow the seller to do what the fuck they want to effectively wreck the business before they take it over?
    This is Roland we're dealing with here.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited August 2018

    Sambo_1 said:

    Sambo_1 said:

    It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.

    With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.

    I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.

    And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..

    Typo

    *place
    se9addick said:

    Sambo_1 said:

    It's no coincidence that GM said "it's going to be a difficult 2 weeks" with the 2 weeks ending when the window shuts.

    With the situation were in now with players leaving with no budget for replacements. I think there is some sort of agreement between Roland and Aussies for this to be happening for unknown reasons as of yet that will benefit the sale being finalised.

    I believe the sale will go through soon after window shuts. Hence "it will be wortwhile". As it will be, thinking in long term.

    And the Aussies might be able to have a budget in pace ready in time for loans to come in. Just my personel opinion on things..

    But why would the Aussies just accept Duchâtelet trashing the asset that they are about to purchase at great expense? It just doesn’t make any sense.
    I dont want to speculate but i will take a guess that maybe the Aussies have agreed to give Roland until end of transfer window to raise as much money as he can from player sales.

    To help contribute towards clearing director loans. So it's less money he's having to pay with his own money, to make sale go through.

    Just speculation though.
    That makes no sense though, it would be like buying a factory, but letting the previous owner sell some of the vital machinery first
    How many of them are "vital machinery" if your plan is to get in the prem?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,629
    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    If the Aussies plan has remotely got the idea of letting RD take money out of the club during the transfer window & then buildong from thereafter they are bigger fools than anyone alive.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,629
    Taxi_Lad said:

    GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
    And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
    The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window

    I’m feeling positive

    Shit way to run a club & I'd have thought any new owners would want the best possible start......not be scrabbling around for cast-offs at the last moment.

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2018

    Taxi_Lad said:

    GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
    And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
    The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window

    I’m feeling positive

    Shit way to run a club & I'd have thought any new owners would want the best possible start......not be scrabbling around for cast-offs at the last moment.

    Agreed. I can’t make sense of it.
    Unless it’s a take it or leave it from Roland.

    I’m hoping something happens on Friday.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,629
    Having read countless posts about how the Aussies are most likely letting RD trouser a few pennies so they can get the deal done after the transfer window shuts, I'm going to stick my neck out & say that its a load of bullshit & that RD will still be here on Sept 1st.

    You can all go & wet your pants about how great they must be to let him offload our best players so that we can sign Kaikai & Zyro again, for that is all that will be left in the bargain bucket that is the loan market post August 9th.

  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2018

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
  • Once again, I have no inside info, just bloody bored with it all now
  • sammy391 said:

    Two points I’ve been thinking about recently :

    Could the ‘two weeks of problems but it’ll be worth it’ be a reference to essentially Duchâtelet asset stripping and making as much cash as he can in order for him to lower his price to enable the Aussies to buy at the price their happy/can afford?

    And secondly , having just listened to John salako talking about his ‘wealthy investors’ who would want to move to the peninsular - how likely is that to be josh Harris?
    In the radio interview , salako was waiting for his man to return from New York ... and surely salako has had dealings with harris from his time at Crystal Palace - as well as Harris knowing about the benefits etc of Charlton at the peninsular after seeing slater& Jimenez’ plans when he was interested in the club months/weeks before Duchâtelet finally bought us


    FFS. The 5 year plan requires £200m not £35m ot £40m.

    Has anyone evidence that Harris is remotely involved? I'd put more money on Orville.

    A move to the peninsular which is extensively developed already would be dependent on selling the Valley for housing. We know how well that went last time.

    Think before you post.
  • Been away so not been following much online over the last week or so other than a bit of skim reading but....

    Sense there is a bit of transfer window deadline firesale panic going on.

    Whilst I’m in no way feeling positive about ANYTHING to do with Charlton at this point in time, it’s worth remembering we have had the same fears / expectations over the last few transfer window deadline weeks, and none of them have hit the worst outcome we feared.

    So while I agree there’s a lot to be concerned about, it would be wise to see where we stand squad wise come Friday before collectively doing our pieces entirely imo

    Friday doesn't really matter because RD can still (and no doubt would) sell any of our players abroad.
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    JamesSeed said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    GM’s words to @JamesSeed might just make sense. Those saying it doesn’t cos he’s wrecking the asset.. how much damage can he do in 2 weeks?? Bet he can’t raise as much cash as the Aussies will save on the discounted price.
    And those who say why not leave it til dec/jan...... the Club could be in an irretrievable state by then.
    The Aussies can let RD do his worst then he’s gone and the Aussies sanction a decent level of loanees and free agents to get us through to the January transfer window

    I’m feeling positive

    Do you honestly think a company would agree a deal with another company but allow the seller to do what the fuck they want to effectively wreck the business before they take it over?
    This is Roland we're dealing with here.
    But presumably the Aussies would have to sanction it, which would make them as mad as him?

    The alternative of course is that the deal is off/miles away and Roland is raising as much cash as possible in the transfer window to cover the month to month losses for the foreseeable future as much as possible.

    Either scenario seems pretty bleak!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,565
    My guess is Roland will sell after the window closes an
    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Man City?
  • See Usmanov is set to sell his share in Arsenal. Was he not linked with Charlton recently?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,377
    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
  • See Usmanov is set to sell his share in Arsenal. Was he not linked with Charlton recently?

    Wasn't that made up?
  • Was linked with being the ceo of an Italian club last week as well


    All player sales right now are a sign to me he is using the cash to pay the bills

    Taking from peter to pay Paul my nan would’ve said

    That’s why when big josh left I believe that was the sign the deal is dead

    The Aussies (should they miraculously have found the investors required to bridge the gap ) would be bat shit crazy to buy this club and have no chance in getting in the players required to stabilize it until the next window opens







  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,377
    As the loan window closes at the end of August the deadline this week is less important. You can sign a player on loan with the deal becoming permanent in January.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Man City
  • ...

    See Usmanov is set to sell his share in Arsenal. Was he not linked with Charlton recently?

    Yeah he's lined up to come in as midfield cover.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,477

    Was linked with being the ceo of an Italian club last week as well


    All player sales right now are a sign to me he is using the cash to pay the bills

    Taking from peter to pay Paul my nan would’ve said

    That’s why when big josh left I believe that was the sign the deal is dead

    The Aussies (should they miraculously have found the investors required to bridge the gap ) would be bat shit crazy to buy this club and have no chance in getting in the players required to stabilize it until the next window opens







    Without a miracle this season is going to be one where the only realistic aim is to maintain our status in this division. Promotion is a pipedream, even with a takeover in the next few weeks (yeah right) it would still be highly improbable due to how much work needs to be done.
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  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864

    See Usmanov is set to sell his share in Arsenal. Was he not linked with Charlton recently?

    I didn't catch his name but breaking sports news on ITV is that some American is going to purchase all of Arsenal...

  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    He's only worth $15b not sure he can afford Rolands price tag
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,377
    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Man City
    I know they were in the 3rd tier, did they ever drop to the 4th?
  • Red_James
    Red_James Posts: 186
    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Southampton too
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Scoham said:

    Redrobo said:

    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Man City
    I know they were in the 3rd tier, did they ever drop to the 4th?
    No, I should have read it properly. Sorry.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    edited August 2018
    Rudders22 said:

    See Usmanov is set to sell his share in Arsenal. Was he not linked with Charlton recently?

    I didn't catch his name but breaking sports news on ITV is that some American is going to purchase all of Arsenal...
    Stan Kroenke
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2018

    My guess is Roland will sell after the window closes an

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Man City?
    Lowest Man City got was 3rd tier in 98/99 but I forgot to mention Brighton who nearly went out of the Football League had it not been for a final day Houdini escape under the management of one Stevie Grit who is a legend with any seagull. :wink:

    Good shouts also on Fulham and Uddersfield @Scoham :+1:
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,377
    Red_James said:

    Scoham said:

    RedChaser said:

    clb74 said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    The players left including Aribo and BFG aren't worth diddly if your paying £40million for the club. The only assets any "ambitious" buyer would interested in are the ground, the training ground and our golden share. As I have said time and again.

    Excluding the Aussies.
    Why would people with a "5 year plan" be so bothered about any of our current playing staff. In fact if it was me I would want clear title AND no long term liabilities.
    Does the 5 year plan not become longer if we go down.
    Yes......more like 7 or 8. How many current Premier League teams have spent time in the 4th tier of English football over the past 30 years ??? I expect NONE.

    Off the top of my head golfie, Wolves, Burnley, Bournemouth and Blackpool recently albeit not current.
    Brighton, Fulham and Huddersfield as well.
    Southampton too
    Not been as low as the 4th tier?
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,455
    Swansea
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