The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Please please please happen before this monstrosity hits 1000 pages and then admin can close it prior to four figures. (Evil grin emoji)1
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Just a few more questions if you don't mine ,J BLOCK said:
Genuinely, I’m as sick of all this as everyone else, can tell you straight up I’m not lying.soapboxsam said:
Well I trust your not pulling our plonker J Block because when my son tried to get information out of Elliott at the Olympic stadium last month he laughed and said my lips are sealed.J BLOCK said:Something else to add to this, I was in a boozer in petts wood last night and spoke to Paul Elliott for a short while who was in there, he said he’s doing a lot of work down at Charlton and “watch next week” was his words.
What was Paul Elliott drinking ?
Did he wink when he said 'watch next week ?
Are you 100% sure it wasn't a dead ringer ?
Did anyone else hear PE say these words ?
Do you crave to be ITK ?
Were you sober at the time ?
Is your hearing 100 % ?
Do you know Doucher ?
Thanks for you time J block,
Answers in your own time or by midday today,
Cheers mate.
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Firstly, afka, I certainly wasn't meaning to be rude, but comments which basically say my friend is lying I felt I should challenge, when they are presented as facts rather than opinion. But i apologise if NLA if I did appear rude. As I've said before, we both want rid of the current owners.nth london addick said:My response to @grapevines post was a reflection on the respect I pay to the way he posts and puts across his message I don’t have to agree to his thoughts
Your right about one of my sources of info but totally ignore the one with the most info that I get
There’s a main differences to what I post from the oposing fence
it’s been correct every single time where as the info being released by others and the Aussies has not come true once as of yet
Therefore it has more credibility to me than anything else that has been released on here with the exception of the much abused Doucher who if you read what he has posted on the whole has been far more accurate than anything else
And we will be a pool for Aussie football talent in coaching and players I will have a tidy wager on that with you should the Aussies ever reach the bottom of their so deep pockets they can’t find their cash
And remember those that you say are feeding me false info
I posted 24 hrs before the statement and before your text back from your guy
That things were not dead things were being continued the wheels were still spinning underneath
That RD was working on removing the debt in the background
Let’s not forget that the aussies themselves have twice now mentioned that the reason for the delay could be due to final sign off and the complicity of building a financial consortium
In NLA terms that means they ain’t got the dough and I will add the same line I added in October
Currently they may well find it
through to June
All of this in the background of
Imminent
Done deal
Feb conclusion
Staff told it’s a week a way
It’s happening
Let’s wait and see I hope they find the cash I hope they buy the club lock stock and barrel because anyone is better than RD imo
But i have reservations about anyone who buys us and there’s no clear proof of finance
We have been there before
I have reservations about people that openly in the initial press info on the AFC are open about bringing the Australian football interests to the UK
As we have been there before but with a Belgian
When you combine the cloudy nature of where and who is in charge of the pennies in the newcconsortium and the fact that we could become an Australian version of the RD player pool game
I think it’s only right that it’s treated with caution
However, to say the Australian model is the same as the Roland model is pretty outrageous, fine in debate, but plainly wrong when you state it as their stated intention. 'The Aussie model' you called it.
You said they were going to let RD keep The Valley and Sparrows Lane. Whoever is briefing you knows the effect that would have on support for the Aussies, so you could at least wonder why they're doing it. But you presented as fact. If there was supposed to be some sort of temporary arrangement while a new investor is approved, then say so, but your late night post made it look like the bottom of the barrel was being scraped, and we were about to get new owners as bad as the last. Unfair.
Saying nothing the Aussies have said has come true, whereas everything you have said has come true, is just silly, and I'm sorry, willy waving. If what your source tells you doesn't come true you'll be able to distance yourself, of course. What they've said can't come true until they've bought the club.
I've been carefully following the principal of releasing all info I have in case I appear 'ITK and I've tried not to express personal opinions about any info they gave me, as I don't know any more than anyone else, and very often less. But I like to see them getting a fair suck at the pineapple (a fine old Aussie expression) in the interest of fairness. Bear in mind that since the beer meeting they've said very little, even to the press, except 'we're still working on it'. Dignified silence maybe.
They called and asked me not to withdraw the bust, because they said it could strain negotiations, but said they were aware that there was a lack of info in the public domain, hence the statement. I don't know how much of their draft was used, but I agree the official statement was a bit disappointing - but at least it showed they hadn't pulled out.
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What protest would have happened and how would it actually have affected him or the situation? Once it became clear that Duchatelet was selling the club the appetite for any organised protest was reduced and it would have become divisive, with a significant group of people arguing it might damage the team’s chances of promotion via the play-offs.Stu_of_Kunming said:
But the protest didn't happen and how exactly has it come back to bite him? He played it perfectly, imo.Airman Brown said:nth london addick said:
But you have to see it from My world AB firstly I don’t have a clue what words like binary mean and it’s prob the first time in 43 yrs I have ever used itAirman Brown said:NLA - a lot of information over the last year has come from other places than the Australian camp. It’s simply not correct to see the saga as one of two sides leaking rival versions.
“Done deal”, for example, did not start with the Aussies but a professional source not working for them at all. “Feb conclusion” came from RIchard Murray in public, as a matter of record. Gardikiotis came from somewhere else entirely, and Muir from somewhere else again. It’s not nearly as binary as you suggest.
And I like things to be simplified
If we say things are going to happen I like them to happen if we post things that say times and dates I like them to happen
The RM feb conclusion was always bullshite we all knew that
I genuinely believe that unfortunately for you and others that you were deliberately miss led and that is no slight on you or your sources but I think that a certain individual holds you quite accountable for his plight and as such tried to get a bit of retribution
I don’t buy for a minute that Murray lied about timing in order to stave off protests - he’s not stupid enough to think that wouldn’t come back to bite him, as indeed it has. I am not saying he is trustworthy, simply that he doesn’t act against his own interests.
The protest planned in January was targeted at forcing Murray to speak. He did. As long as the team was in play-off contention further protests would not have commanded sufficient support in my judgement. Organising them would have backfired.
The actual outcome has been the further trashing of Murray’s reputation to the extent that he was jeered when he went on the pitch. Reputation is what Murray is all about. He’ll have hated it, believe you me. And it wasn’t organised, it was spontaneous. Far from “playing it perfectly”, he has become ridiculous. And it is all his own doing.
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In the house of commons, at PMQ, you hear I refer you to my earlier Answer.
To tidy this thread up a Tad, shouldn't James Seed, NLA and others use this system because this thread has become a merry go-round without the merry coming in to play.
I refer you to my earlier answers for my views.1 -
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What a ridiculous suggestion. We need more posts to get to 1000, not less.soapboxsam said:In the house of commons, at PMQ, you hear I refer you to my earlier Answer.
To tidy this thread up a Tad, shouldn't James Seed, NLA and others use this system because this thread has become a merry go-round without the merry coming in to play.
I refer you to my earlier answers for my views.
Keep your eyes on the prize
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Sorry Henry for that faux Pas.Henry Irving said:
What a ridiculous suggestion. We need more posts to get to 1000, not less.soapboxsam said:In the house of commons, at PMQ, you hear I refer you to my earlier Answer.
To tidy this thread up a Tad, shouldn't James Seed, NLA and others use this system because this thread has become a merry go-round without the merry coming in to play.
I refer you to my earlier answers for my views.
Keep your eyes on the prize
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To infinity and beyond.1 -
I think Murray's reputation hit rock bottom a while ago.Airman Brown said:
What protest would have happened and how would it actually have affected him or the situation? Once it became clear that Duchatelet was selling the club the appetite for any organised protest was reduced and it would have become divisive, with a significant group of people arguing it might damage the team’s chances of promotion via the play-offs.Stu_of_Kunming said:
But the protest didn't happen and how exactly has it come back to bite him? He played it perfectly, imo.Airman Brown said:nth london addick said:
But you have to see it from My world AB firstly I don’t have a clue what words like binary mean and it’s prob the first time in 43 yrs I have ever used itAirman Brown said:NLA - a lot of information over the last year has come from other places than the Australian camp. It’s simply not correct to see the saga as one of two sides leaking rival versions.
“Done deal”, for example, did not start with the Aussies but a professional source not working for them at all. “Feb conclusion” came from RIchard Murray in public, as a matter of record. Gardikiotis came from somewhere else entirely, and Muir from somewhere else again. It’s not nearly as binary as you suggest.
And I like things to be simplified
If we say things are going to happen I like them to happen if we post things that say times and dates I like them to happen
The RM feb conclusion was always bullshite we all knew that
I genuinely believe that unfortunately for you and others that you were deliberately miss led and that is no slight on you or your sources but I think that a certain individual holds you quite accountable for his plight and as such tried to get a bit of retribution
I don’t buy for a minute that Murray lied about timing in order to stave off protests - he’s not stupid enough to think that wouldn’t come back to bite him, as indeed it has. I am not saying he is trustworthy, simply that he doesn’t act against his own interests.
The protest planned in January was targeted at forcing Murray to speak. He did. As long as the team was in play-off contention further protests would not have commanded sufficient support in my judgement. Organising them would have backfired.
The actual outcome has been the further trashing of Murray’s reputation to the extent that he was jeered when he went on the pitch. Reputation is what Murray is all about. He’ll have hated it, believe you me. And it wasn’t organised, it was spontaneous. Far from “playing it perfectly”, he has become ridiculous. And it is all his own doing.4 -
*fewerHenry Irving said:
What a ridiculous suggestion. We need more posts to get to 1000, not less.soapboxsam said:In the house of commons, at PMQ, you hear I refer you to my earlier Answer.
To tidy this thread up a Tad, shouldn't James Seed, NLA and others use this system because this thread has become a merry go-round without the merry coming in to play.
I refer you to my earlier answers for my views.
Keep your eyes on the prize
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If the above concise statement by the second Donald, after Duck and before Trump was on page 1 of this thread then these near on 1000 pages wouldn't have occurred and you can take the bones out of that CL sale of Charlton junkies.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:1 -
As you do......J BLOCK said:Something else to add to this, I was in a boozer in petts wood last night and spoke to Paul Elliott for a short while who was in there, he said he’s doing a lot of work down at Charlton and “watch next week” was his words.
well it certainly did for me that day....I booed very loudly at the lying barsteward. He started losing my respect after his customary end of season Bromley Addicks meeting when he stated that Parkinson would not be kept on for the following season but did.........and that followed on from giving him the job permanently after having a disasterous run of results where he lost something like 6 on the spin.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I think Murray's reputation hit rock bottom a while ago.Airman Brown said:
What protest would have happened and how would it actually have affected him or the situation? Once it became clear that Duchatelet was selling the club the appetite for any organised protest was reduced and it would have become divisive, with a significant group of people arguing it might damage the team’s chances of promotion via the play-offs.Stu_of_Kunming said:
But the protest didn't happen and how exactly has it come back to bite him? He played it perfectly, imo.Airman Brown said:nth london addick said:
But you have to see it from My world AB firstly I don’t have a clue what words like binary mean and it’s prob the first time in 43 yrs I have ever used itAirman Brown said:NLA - a lot of information over the last year has come from other places than the Australian camp. It’s simply not correct to see the saga as one of two sides leaking rival versions.
“Done deal”, for example, did not start with the Aussies but a professional source not working for them at all. “Feb conclusion” came from RIchard Murray in public, as a matter of record. Gardikiotis came from somewhere else entirely, and Muir from somewhere else again. It’s not nearly as binary as you suggest.
And I like things to be simplified
If we say things are going to happen I like them to happen if we post things that say times and dates I like them to happen
The RM feb conclusion was always bullshite we all knew that
I genuinely believe that unfortunately for you and others that you were deliberately miss led and that is no slight on you or your sources but I think that a certain individual holds you quite accountable for his plight and as such tried to get a bit of retribution
I don’t buy for a minute that Murray lied about timing in order to stave off protests - he’s not stupid enough to think that wouldn’t come back to bite him, as indeed it has. I am not saying he is trustworthy, simply that he doesn’t act against his own interests.
The protest planned in January was targeted at forcing Murray to speak. He did. As long as the team was in play-off contention further protests would not have commanded sufficient support in my judgement. Organising them would have backfired.
The actual outcome has been the further trashing of Murray’s reputation to the extent that he was jeered when he went on the pitch. Reputation is what Murray is all about. He’ll have hated it, believe you me. And it wasn’t organised, it was spontaneous. Far from “playing it perfectly”, he has become ridiculous. And it is all his own doing.4 -
Fortunately we have NLA to bring us back to reality. Some are belittling his sources, but he's been accurate in his posts so far, and that's good enough for me.CafcTeckers said:It feels like every week we hear someone say 'next week is the week'.... fed up with it all to be honest
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Is Andrew Muir still in the country?0
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Roland trying to get money together to pay off the ex director loans
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The thing that shouldn’t have happened was people trying to engage RM in any form of communication as it’s just so hard to separate the bullshit from the snipets of info that’s true
I think the conversation with Murray and Bowyer being Mgr combined stopped the protestsAirman Brown said:
What protest would have happened and how would it actually have affected him or the situation? Once it became clear that Duchatelet was selling the club the appetite for any organised protest was reduced and it would have become divisive, with a significant group of people arguing it might damage the team’s chances of promotion via the play-offs.Stu_of_Kunming said:
But the protest didn't happen and how exactly has it come back to bite him? He played it perfectly, imo.Airman Brown said:nth london addick said:
But you have to see it from My world AB firstly I don’t have a clue what words like binary mean and it’s prob the first time in 43 yrs I have ever used itAirman Brown said:NLA - a lot of information over the last year has come from other places than the Australian camp. It’s simply not correct to see the saga as one of two sides leaking rival versions.
“Done deal”, for example, did not start with the Aussies but a professional source not working for them at all. “Feb conclusion” came from RIchard Murray in public, as a matter of record. Gardikiotis came from somewhere else entirely, and Muir from somewhere else again. It’s not nearly as binary as you suggest.
And I like things to be simplified
If we say things are going to happen I like them to happen if we post things that say times and dates I like them to happen
The RM feb conclusion was always bullshite we all knew that
I genuinely believe that unfortunately for you and others that you were deliberately miss led and that is no slight on you or your sources but I think that a certain individual holds you quite accountable for his plight and as such tried to get a bit of retribution
I don’t buy for a minute that Murray lied about timing in order to stave off protests - he’s not stupid enough to think that wouldn’t come back to bite him, as indeed it has. I am not saying he is trustworthy, simply that he doesn’t act against his own interests.
The protest planned in January was targeted at forcing Murray to speak. He did. As long as the team was in play-off contention further protests would not have commanded sufficient support in my judgement. Organising them would have backfired.
The actual outcome has been the further trashing of Murray’s reputation to the extent that he was jeered when he went on the pitch. Reputation is what Murray is all about. He’ll have hated it, believe you me. And it wasn’t organised, it was spontaneous. Far from “playing it perfectly”, he has become ridiculous. And it is all his own doing.1 -
I believe you J Block. The first part of what he said is true for a fact, so let's hope the second part is more than just optimism on his part.J BLOCK said:
Genuinely, I’m as sick of all this as everyone else, can tell you straight up I’m not lying.soapboxsam said:
Well I trust your not pulling our plonker J Block because when my son tried to get information out of Elliott at the Olympic stadium last month he laughed and said my lips are sealed.J BLOCK said:Something else to add to this, I was in a boozer in petts wood last night and spoke to Paul Elliott for a short while who was in there, he said he’s doing a lot of work down at Charlton and “watch next week” was his words.
It could be next week folks!
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May as well say that if Meire had continued as chief executive and Robinson as manager there would have been protests. Very likely true but that’s not what happened and people were not going to protest in sufficient numbers in a situation where the unpopular owner was trying to sell the club and the team was doing relatively well. Those are two key drivers and they are not dependent on Murray or Bowyer per se.nth london addick said:
The thing that shouldn’t have happened was people trying to engage RM in any form of communication as it’s just so hard to separate the bullshit from the snipets of info that’s true
I think the conversation with Murray and Bowyer being Mgr combined stopped the protestsAirman Brown said:
What protest would have happened and how would it actually have affected him or the situation? Once it became clear that Duchatelet was selling the club the appetite for any organised protest was reduced and it would have become divisive, with a significant group of people arguing it might damage the team’s chances of promotion via the play-offs.Stu_of_Kunming said:
But the protest didn't happen and how exactly has it come back to bite him? He played it perfectly, imo.Airman Brown said:nth london addick said:
But you have to see it from My world AB firstly I don’t have a clue what words like binary mean and it’s prob the first time in 43 yrs I have ever used itAirman Brown said:NLA - a lot of information over the last year has come from other places than the Australian camp. It’s simply not correct to see the saga as one of two sides leaking rival versions.
“Done deal”, for example, did not start with the Aussies but a professional source not working for them at all. “Feb conclusion” came from RIchard Murray in public, as a matter of record. Gardikiotis came from somewhere else entirely, and Muir from somewhere else again. It’s not nearly as binary as you suggest.
And I like things to be simplified
If we say things are going to happen I like them to happen if we post things that say times and dates I like them to happen
The RM feb conclusion was always bullshite we all knew that
I genuinely believe that unfortunately for you and others that you were deliberately miss led and that is no slight on you or your sources but I think that a certain individual holds you quite accountable for his plight and as such tried to get a bit of retribution
I don’t buy for a minute that Murray lied about timing in order to stave off protests - he’s not stupid enough to think that wouldn’t come back to bite him, as indeed it has. I am not saying he is trustworthy, simply that he doesn’t act against his own interests.
The protest planned in January was targeted at forcing Murray to speak. He did. As long as the team was in play-off contention further protests would not have commanded sufficient support in my judgement. Organising them would have backfired.
The actual outcome has been the further trashing of Murray’s reputation to the extent that he was jeered when he went on the pitch. Reputation is what Murray is all about. He’ll have hated it, believe you me. And it wasn’t organised, it was spontaneous. Far from “playing it perfectly”, he has become ridiculous. And it is all his own doing.1 -
NLA's source releasing anti Aussie info with an agenda isn't the same as the Aussies stating their intentions. I'm sorry, it just isn't.Stu_of_Kunming said:
No, I think it's exactly the same, anyone releasing info is only doing it to benefit their own cause.JamesSeed said:Stu_of_Kunming said:
Which you accept could just be spin?JamesSeed said:
You don’t know what the model is. They’ve already said it’s not going to be an Aussie nursery club.nth london addick said:
See there’s one thing I don’t like about the Aussie model and that is that it is too similar to the RD Belgian dream but using Australian links to fulfil our quota of players
All signs that the Australian consortium do not have the required pool of cash to help us regain a decent foothold in divisions higher than we currently are
This ex director is briefing him against the Aussies, and he's going along with it without proof. Dont you tbink that's different from me repeating what they say, because there's no third party in between , putting their own spin on it.
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@DANTHEADDICK reporting Welling game moved back to original date of 7 July as CAFC have a trip to Spain.
Proves Roland is staying/leaving (delete as applicable)
Proves takeover close/not happening (delete as applicable)
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Sod the website, just ask Barrie HobbinsHenry Irving said:@DANTHEADDICK reporting Welling game moved back to original date of 7 July as CAFC have a trip to Spain.
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Probably because of RD's ridiculous over valuation.Croydon said:NLA, Doucher and David Smith, any ideas why the British consortium don't just buy the sodding club if they've been there since the start?
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So we have a new Aussie investor who has chipped in £10K brilliantHenry Irving said:@DANTHEADDICK reporting Welling game moved back to original date of 7 July as CAFC have a trip to Spain.
Proves Roland is staying/leaving (delete as applicable)
Proves takeover close/not happening (delete as applicable)
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Ah......... the Game of Shadows continues.
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Can’t be true. It’s not on the official site.Henry Irving said:@DANTHEADDICK reporting Welling game moved back to original date of 7 July as CAFC have a trip to Spain.
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I’ll ask again.....does anyone know if Andrew Muir is still in the country?0
