England Cricket - Summer of 2018
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FFS - England beaten by South Africa in cricket and rugby yesterday and now by Scotland, SCOTLAND!!! at cricket today. What a shite sporting weekend. Still maybe Lewis will come good, and of course theres a chance to watch fat celebs and old boys chasing a ball around later.0
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Yup. Got tickets for Wednesday. Don’t think I’ll be checking the time of the last train home...0
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The ONLY saving grace was that is wasn't a competitive match.....that we rested some players (Moeen & Billings wont be playing in any ODI's this summer)....and the players were treating it like a benefit match.0
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Every ODI is a competitive fixture.
Moeen won't be playing any ODIs? He's an integral part of the team. Didn't know you'd been installed selector1 -
I'm fed up with having players who just dont have 'it' and up for a fight.
Therefore the sooner Ali,Billings and Willey go forever the better we will be.1 -
A narrow defeat away from home to one of cricket's rising powers is no disgrace. Stopping the Scots from scoring 400 runs should be seen as a moral victory for England.4
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Ali is a shoe in for ODIs, for his bowling mainly.0
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would rather have Root bowling as 2nd spinner, with Rashid as No 1. Punkett, Stokes & Woakes as the other bowlers with Wood if necessary.Callumcafc said:Ali is a shoe in for ODIs, for his bowling mainly.
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We have had some outstanding one day form over the last 18 months so no need to panic after 1, albeit slightly embarrassing defeat.
Billings and Willey have definitely shown they are not good enough though.
Buttler, Stokes and Woakes in for Roy, Billings and Willey and that's a good looking side.
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England need to sort out the wicket keeper situation, if, as it appears JB and butler are in the first choice xi for all forms.
Imo butler needs to keep in all forms allowing JB to bat at 4 in tests and open in white ball cricket.0 - Sponsored links:
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When Butler was surprisingly selected for the Pakistan Test's this year I honestly presumed he'd be keeping and basically doing a Gilchrist, and as you say allow JB to bat 4. Of course that made far too much sense for the England management.Cafc43v3r said:England need to sort out the wicket keeper situation, if, as it appears JB and butler are in the first choice xi for all forms.
Imo butler needs to keep in all forms allowing JB to bat at 4 in tests and open in white ball cricket.1 -
I don't think Billings should be in the England team, but at least he kept wicket yesterday, and he's a decent keeper
Playing him as a specialist batsman is weird0 -
Ali has the mental strength and backbone of a plastic fish.0
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Plastic is quite strong though2
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Ali is a useful bowler in limited overs cricket and I'd even have him ahead of Rashid in that area on current form.1
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The sad truth is that we don't have a spin bowler that is truly worth his place in Test Match Cricket.
We are papering over the cracks whoever we pick.1 -
not the ones you get out of xmas crackers and curl up in your hand arentMrOneLung said:Plastic is quite strong though
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Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.Addick Addict said:Bexley are lucky not just to have Crossy and Cloudy as players but also because of what they bring to the Club off the pitch. Cloudy is head of the Academy and has been brilliant with the Colts. He's also been a bit unlucky in his career especially when he had to spend a year with Allan Donald having his bowling action re-modelled. But he also spent the time following Trott round which has helped him immensely with his batting.
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What's the qualification period for playing for England these days? Talking about that have I ever told you about my mate Gavin Hamilton?Riviera said:
Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.Addick Addict said:Bexley are lucky not just to have Crossy and Cloudy as players but also because of what they bring to the Club off the pitch. Cloudy is head of the Academy and has been brilliant with the Colts. He's also been a bit unlucky in his career especially when he had to spend a year with Allan Donald having his bowling action re-modelled. But he also spent the time following Trott round which has helped him immensely with his batting.
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I've scored as many runs and taken as many wickets as he has in Test cricket.Addick Addict said:.
What's the qualification period for playing for England these days? Talking about that have I ever told you about my mate Gavin Hamilton?Riviera said:
Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.Addick Addict said:Bexley are lucky not just to have Crossy and Cloudy as players but also because of what they bring to the Club off the pitch. Cloudy is head of the Academy and has been brilliant with the Colts. He's also been a bit unlucky in his career especially when he had to spend a year with Allan Donald having his bowling action re-modelled. But he also spent the time following Trott round which has helped him immensely with his batting.
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Yes but as least he did play for England in a Test. As did Cloudy when he came on as a sub fielder in the Ashes in 2009.Riviera said:
I've scored as many runs and taken as many wickets as he has in Test cricket.Addick Addict said:.
What's the qualification period for playing for England these days? Talking about that have I ever told you about my mate Gavin Hamilton?Riviera said:
Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.Addick Addict said:Bexley are lucky not just to have Crossy and Cloudy as players but also because of what they bring to the Club off the pitch. Cloudy is head of the Academy and has been brilliant with the Colts. He's also been a bit unlucky in his career especially when he had to spend a year with Allan Donald having his bowling action re-modelled. But he also spent the time following Trott round which has helped him immensely with his batting.
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A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravid, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
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Really difficult to argue with that list and not an Englishman in sight which underlines our inconsistency over the period, in fact any period!McBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravidian, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
So let's name our English XI of that era to play this team:
1) Cook
2) Trescothick
3) Vaughn
4) Root
5) Pieterson (added through gritted teeth)
6) Bell
7) Flintoff
8) Prior
9) Swann
10) Broad
11) Anderson
Just to clarify I have only included players whose entire Test career falls within 1993-2018 and so that's why no Atherton, Stewart etc.1 -
Can't argue with that list! some crossover with the time is presumably allowed (hence Wasim Akram) so on that basis I'd pick Stewart over Prior, I think.Riviera said:
Really difficult to argue with that list and not an Englishman in sight which underlines our inconsistency over the period, in fact any period!McBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravidian, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
So let's name our English XI of that era to play this team:
1) Cook
2) Trescothick
3) Vaughn
4) Root
5) Pieterson (added through gritted teeth)
6) Bell
7) Flintoff
8) Prior
9) Swann
10) Broad
11) Anderson
Just to clarify I have only included players whose entire Test career falls within 1993-2018 and so that's why no Atherton, Stewart etc.0 -
My only doubt would be Sehwag, who to me can be vulnerable in testing conditions with his "loose" tecnhique. I found these interesting stats, he averages 57 in Asia and only 36 outside, with an average of 28 in EnglandMcBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravid, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/analysis-virender-sehwags-test-career-runs
Thus I would pick Sehwag in Asia, but elsewhere would prefer Graeme Smith or maybe Cook.2 -
Good shout. If you have Hayden, there's plenty of firepower up top anyway.0
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Good team, but maybe Trott for Bell.....but then that prob mucks up the batting order if he plays at his usual no 3.Riviera said:
Really difficult to argue with that list and not an Englishman in sight which underlines our inconsistency over the period, in fact any period!McBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravidian, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
So let's name our English XI of that era to play this team:
1) Cook
2) Trescothick
3) Vaughn
4) Root
5) Pieterson (added through gritted teeth)
6) Bell
7) Flintoff
8) Prior
9) Swann
10) Broad
11) Anderson
Just to clarify I have only included players whose entire Test career falls within 1993-2018 and so that's why no Atherton, Stewart etc.0 -
I thought Smith too.killerandflash said:
My only doubt would be Sehwag, who to me can be vulnerable in testing conditions with his "loose" tecnhique. I found these interesting stats, he averages 57 in Asia and only 36 outside, with an average of 28 in EnglandMcBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravid, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/analysis-virender-sehwags-test-career-runs
Thus I would pick Sehwag in Asia, but elsewhere would prefer Graeme Smith or maybe Cook.
Imagine facing that attack though.0 -
Sehwags strike rate of 82.33 in Test Cricket is phenomenal.0
