Sport of Kings discussion thread

Are we sure katrien has gone to Wednesday?

Weights out this evening.

"It can only get better when Phil Smith goes" – Eddie O'Leary on the National

I completely agree with O'Leary, though for entirely different reasons. We shall see whether, once again, the compression of the handicap attracts so many highly-rated 3 milers (most of whom don't have a cat in hell's chance of winning over 34f, whatever the weight-subsidy and hype from supposed experts) that genuine staying-chasers that would have had a chance to run and win in prior years never get to line up.

killer kish said:

The ratings and weights were released today for the handicaps at the Festival one of my horses Oxford Blu has got into the Fred Winter.
Whatever you back in the race give my fella an extra cheer.................

As for my other horses
East Wing still trying to get a rating and very disappointing
Duhallow Gesture going to Punchestown Festival
My Dance out injured and long term too

Great to hear! I'll back your lad - Fred Winter's not a race I know much about, so I'm happy to stake a point for the sake of a Charlton connection.

Midlands National day today and, as usual, some dour stayers line up to tackle Uttoxeter over 4m2f on testing ground (3.35pm). Promises to be a cracker.
Bryony Frost back on board top-weight Silsol (they were a staying-on 5th with 11-03 in the Welsh GN, 3lbs lower OR today), who seems to be able to get this unreliable jumper into a good rhythm over his fences. However only 2 winners (both 11-05, one of them the future GC winner Synchronised) have carried > 10-12 to win the Midlands National this century. A huge ask on the ground but, if finding a rhythm, could go well.
MILANSBAR seems to have found consistency with blinkers since the turn of the year. Has a decent record at Uttoxeter and 2 years ago was a close 2nd on Soft (slightly fortunately with strong-finishing leader falling at the last) under top-weight of 11-12 (OR145 then - 143 today). He didn't quite see out the trip when trying to make all with 11-06 in the Eider over 32f on heavy last month but had set a strong pace for the conditions (as he had when winning the 29f Warwick National in January) and held on for a game 5th. He'll carry 11-03 today, with an amateur taking 7lbs off, and 20/1 seems decent each-way value to me (5 places). He'll certainly be ridden prominently but presumably less aggressively.
Based on his game 2nd (staying on 4L) to a very impressive winner of that Eider chase (on paper holds both the equally-likeable Hainan and Milansbar at today's weights), for today's winner I like the look of Dr Newland's WEST OF THE EDGE and, albeit at just 6/1, he shall be carrying my shilling as a win bet today.

killer kish said:

Good stuff peanuts,must say I whittled it down to three
The Artful Cobbler
West Of The Edge
Bob Ford

Cheers Killer. Good luck.
Bob Ford was on my short list - 2 promising runs for Dr N and nicely-weighted. It's just the 1 complete (a win) in 8 chases at 3.5m+ holds me back on him for e/w purposes.
But I only need the winner and one other place so I'll gladly cheer him on for 2nd for you

Regal Flow just paid for my weekend and a substantial one at that!!!!!!!!!!

Amazed at myself tbh

Well done paddy you should of put peanuts in and had a nice forecast

CHG said:

Good e/w money there, well done, yet again, Peanuts.

Cheers CHG - breaking even's a result for me this week

palarsehater said:

surely there needs to be a bit more justice than a fine and bans,

Kerry lee the latest trainer to deliberately fix a race what about the punters that have put bets on.

Jamie Moore jockey 14 day ban
Kerry lee £3000.00 fine
kings monarch the horse banned 40 day ban

I backed it. Only consolation is that Moore will miss the GN meeting. Kerry wasn't there and dad (former trainer Richard) represented her. So who did the instructions come from? The stable or someone else? Will be interesting to see if Moore retains the ride.

ValleyGary said:

palarsehater said:

surely there needs to be a bit more justice than a fine and bans,

Kerry lee the latest trainer to deliberately fix a race what about the punters that have put bets on.

Jamie Moore jockey 14 day ban
Kerry lee £3000.00 fine
kings monarch the horse banned 40 day ban

The partnership just lost on a 1/20 shot at Ludlow.

That must be close to a record...

i don't think i have ever seen a horse that short overturned.

ValleyGary said:

mid_life_crisis said:

ValleyGary said:

palarsehater said:

surely there needs to be a bit more justice than a fine and bans,

Kerry lee the latest trainer to deliberately fix a race what about the punters that have put bets on.

Jamie Moore jockey 14 day ban
Kerry lee £3000.00 fine
kings monarch the horse banned 40 day ban

The partnership just lost on a 1/20 shot at Ludlow.

That must be close to a record...

It was 8/11 with SkyBet to win by 20+ lengths

The winner had been beaten by a combined 200 lengths in its last 3 races.

They'd certainly been throwing the winner in at the deep end though including against Buveur D'Air! Difficlut for the handicapper to assess it now.

cue card set for one last day in the sun on jumps finale day @ sandown ( 28th april ) used my jockey club points ( which i didnt even realise i had ) to purchase 2 tickets for it, better than seeing blackburn be promoted at the valley

CHG said:

PaddyP17 said:

Couple of guys with connections say the following:

Have a small e/w tilt on MUNTAZAH in the Godolphin Mile, Meydan, March 31st. Pat Dobbs on Heavy Metal reckons after his ride (Heavy Metal, the favourite) it's got the best chance, and at 50/1 with a couple of firms, is miles overpriced.

I'm told it's "good word" from sources I trust, but they've never tipped something at such speculatively long odds to me yet. Weird that the horse ranges from 11s to 50s though - think that means 50s isn't the worst bet in the world? We'll see.

Cheers, got 50s yesterday on PP, now into 33s

Best you can get now is 25s. 14s to 18s otherwise, a couple doing 20s. Well happy with that at 50s.

smiffyboy said:

cheers Paddy just got 25's on paddy power.

On a side note i have a pal that is involved in the greyhound Wuheida and hes told me to back it for the Scottish greyhound derby next month at 20's

Won the Oaks at Belle Vue winning all her races in that competition .